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Hans Reiser Gets Sentence of 15-To-Life

mallumax writes "Hans Reiser was today handed a prison sentence of 15-to-life for murdering his wife. Earlier this year, he pleaded guilty and led police to his wife's body. His jury trial concluded in April with Reiser's first-degree murder conviction. That carries a 25-to-life term, but the authorities, in a backroom deal, later offered him 15-to-life if he produced his wife's body and waived any rights to appeal his conviction." Several other readers contributed coverage at SFGate.

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  1. Try to be objective, everybody. by Toonol · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And remember that both the conviction and the sentence were handed down by people who know far more about the case than any of us. And 'reasonable doubt' is different than 'complete mathematical certainty.'

    1. Re:Try to be objective, everybody. by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I honestly don't know how anyone could think he's realistically innocent. He pointed them to his wife's body, confessed, not to mention the fact that there was already enough evidence to convict him at the trial. Sure, it's not a mathematical certainty, but justice never is.

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    2. Re:Try to be objective, everybody. by david@ecsd.com · · Score: 5, Funny
      By my calculations, it ceases to be "reasonable doubt" and veers off into "complete mathematical certainty" when they use phrases like "Reiser's chilling confession," and "led authorities to [the body]".

      But, then again, I'm not a mathematician...

      ...but I did watch a lot of Matlock when I was younger.

    3. Re:Try to be objective, everybody. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      He's probably guilty, but I don't like the system of offering people lower sentences for "cooperating".

      If all evidence points against you, even if you're innocent, you're likely to confess to get a lower sentence. IMO, there is ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE to the inquisition, where people would confess having sex with the devil in order to get off with less (in that case only an execution, instead of days of torture followed by execution.)

    4. Re:Try to be objective, everybody. by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Hans Reiser's carelessness with his wife's murder is typical of his carelessness with his file system design: he came up with complex arrangement to reduce his perceived risk, and focused on it to the point where all else was ignored and became destructive. Then he tried to deny that it was his fault, with contrived and obviously false claims of innocence based on how clever he was rather than the actual timelines and evidence.

      Given the poor history of ReiserFS and its tendency to zero files, to lie about the availablility of files in failing hardware, or to destroy itself if you actually run the repair tools on it, why would you want him to continue to work on it?

  2. I think he got a pretty good deal out of it by barocco · · Score: 5, Funny

    I mean, not only he shortened his potential jail time by producing his dead wife, he also lengthened his life expectancy by producing a dead wife.

  3. Terms of his imprisonment... by skogs · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Most interesting to the geek community is this: What are the terms of his imprisonment? 1) Will he have fairly regular internet access? 2) Will he be allowed to type...perhaps code some? 3) Inmates are regularly allowed to read all they want and take skills courses and learn new crafts...does this extend to a geek's leanings? With one's wife already gone...one would have a great deal of peace coding...especially if all your meals were provided at regular times and you were guaranteed a fairly clean set of sheets to sleep on. While I do not advocate killing anybody...it does have advantages if you were a hardcore geek. It would be like college, except without all that silly dating and learning. Just sit in your new 'dorm' room and code.

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  4. Re:So he was rewarded for hiding her body? by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Informative

    He was offered only 3 years if he plead manslaughter. He refused. 15 to life (which means that he has a life sentence and is eligible for parole in 15 years) seems like a pretty good choice. Especially if he does reform. Society earns nothing by keeping him locked away longer if a parole board feels he's fit to leave. 15 years means that he's going to miss out on potentially some of the most interesting parts of what could have been his life. So it's not as if he will not learn anything.

  5. Re:Fuck You, Hans Reiser by glitch23 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Now let's hope some fellow inmate does what needs to be done, and puts an end to this vile piece of garbage.

    You are no better than him if you are advocating someone murder him. One murder does not justify another.

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  6. Re:He should have gotten the chair by Obyron · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because only in the freest country on earth are prison rape, gang beatings, and physical torture at the hands of sadistic miscreants NOT considered cruel and unusual! I have a hard time believing my fellow Americans are any more decent than the prisoners they say they hate when they talk about how so and so deserves to be raped in the showers. People are fucking disgusting.

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  7. Re:So he was rewarded for hiding her body? by quisxt · · Score: 5, Informative

    Your chances of being paroled if you are a "to life" convicted murderer in California are extremely low. Reiser will probably stay in prison for the rest of his life.

    From a story in the LA Times:

    "The parole board grants release dates to a relative few. Schwarzenegger vetoes most releases approved by the parole board, as did his predecessor, Gov. Gray Davis. Since taking office, Schwarzenegger has allowed 191 lifers to leave prison -- about 1% of more than 16,000 who had parole hearings."

  8. Re:So he was rewarded for hiding her body? by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 5, Funny

    Of course, your ideas completely the ability of families, etc. to have any justice.

    Your post seems to have been of some of its words.

  9. Finally the End by burris · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Finally, the end to a tragic tale. Nobody won.

    The kids lost their parents.

    Two sets of parents also lost their kids.

    A bunch of people lost one of their best friends.

    The local community, particularly Russian immigrants, lost a potential doctor.

    The Linux community lost a dedicated developer of innovative free software.

    The DA's office lost a lot of time and money over the last two years prosecuting this case.

    Everyone loses.

  10. Namesys' customer service was 'painless' by viking80 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wonder what kind of service Namesys gave to any of its customers and users. Reiser was arrogant and annoying, and that is toward the people with the power to send you to jail forever.

    His attonery also says "Hans killed Nina for making a 'cavalier' remark", but he killed her painlessly.

    Are anyone that reported defects in the Reiser FS still alive?

    Was the level of customer service that you would be killed painlessly as opposed to really bad customer service where customers are tortured before they succumb?

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  11. Crime and punishment... by BrokenHalo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Something that has been overlooked in the majority of posts here is that the legal consequence of a crime is to be sent to jail AS punishment, rather than being sent there FOR punishment.

    Anal rape and beatings are not part of the sentence handed down by the judge, but deprivation of liberty is.

    Bearing this in mind, it isn't inconsistent to design these institutions with rehabilitation in mind.

  12. Re:Fuck You, Hans Reiser by lazy_playboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have a huge problem with it, and not because of any chance of miscarriage of justice.

    'Civilised society is judged on how it treats it's prisoners and it's disabled.'

    The US 'corrections' system has a long long way to come yet.

  13. It's not a complete mathematical certainty by OrangeTide · · Score: 5, Funny

    complete mathematical certainty?
    1. Someone framed him then told him about the location of the body. (Aliens, Dick Cheney, etc)
    2. Hans is actually a genius, he built an interdimensional gateway like in Sliders and his evil otherself killed his wife. Consumed with guilt he decided to confess because it was easier than explaining the interdimensional gateway.
    3. He was drugged by the CIA to do it as a way to silence him. Now any secrets he tries to reveal will not be taken seriously.
    4. Hans's wife was actually an alien spy here to help start the invasion process. If the other alien spys find out what Hans knows then the invasion cannot be stopped.
    5. Mass hallucination. Hans didn't kill his wife and he never confessed.
    6. Dick Cheney did it during a hunting accident
    7. Hans' car is intelligent like Herbie, but in a fit of jealous rage his car kills Hans' wife. To protect his friend, a car, from dissection, he tries to cover up the murder and ends up getting caught.
    8. Nina was an android that Hans built, therefor no murder was committed
    9. It was a suicide pact and Hans backed out. Consumed with guilt and shame he confesses to murder rather than admit the truth.
    10. There is no Hans Reiser

    (by no means does this post mean I condone murdering spouse, family, friends, neighbors, acquaintances, stranges you talk to at the check-out, or aliens that later turn out to be people due to hallucinations)
     

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