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Java, Where To Start?

Posted by ScuttleMonkey on from the that's-pure-concentrated-evil-coming-out-the-back-of-you dept.

I'm a web developer who has design and programming experience. So, VB, ASP, PHP, Coldfusion, Perl, even C and C++ I have in my belt. I also use Dreamweaver and/or do a lot of my HTML/XHTML/JavaScript coding by hand. So, the DOM, DHTML, etc, all good to me and even OOP thinking and design I have when I code. And I even have MySQL and other databases, again, not an issue here. So, my weak point is — Java — I see so many jobs out there with J2EE, Hibernate, Eclipse, Netbeans. Beside the obvious, which is to learn Java the core language, I don't know where else to go from there. There is so much! What should I read? in what order? What software do I require? UML? Swing? I mean, what is the curriculum required for someone to say they are a solid Java developer? Even assuming I have to go through Java itself, what are the good books out there?

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  1. Good place to start... by Manip · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    You should download a copy of "C# express edition" which is a totally free version of Visual Studio.

    Then by studying that language you will in-turn learn Java as it is basically just a rip off with a much better IDE than anything Java has.

    NetBeans is a laggy nightmare to work with.

    1. Re:Good place to start... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      Java doesn't have an IDE, you pure, concentrated witch.

  2. Re:In the same boat... by Foofoobar · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Duh. But he may want to know what tools to use. Eclipse is a great tool for Java development. He may want to use a different tool but Eclipse is one that alot of Java developers use.

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  3. heh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Java sucks. It's slow as crap.

  4. Re:Don't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Did you just call Java fast and clean?

    Really?

  5. You sound like a fucking moron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    no, really

  6. Re:Groovy by CountBrass · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Groovy is just a second-rate Ruby and Grails is poor Rails clone. Ruby's aim is to make programmers happy: Groovy's appears to be to make programmers happy but with just a smidgen of ground glass added to the diet.

    If you must run in a JVM then use JRuby (a Java implementation of Ruby).

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  7. Book recommendation by AssTard · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Head First Java. Don't listen to these jackass naysayers. If they were so smart they wouldn't be living in their mom's basement watching Star Wars and gorging on doritos and such.

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