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The Sun Has First Spotless Month Since 1913

radioweather writes "August 2008 has made solar history. As of 00 UTC September 1st 2008 (5PM PST) we just witnessed the first spotless calendar month since June 1913.This was determined according to sunspot data from NOAA's National Geophysical Data Center, which goes back to 1749. In the 95 years since 1913, we've had quite an active sun, but activity has been declining in the last few years. The sun today is a nearly featureless sphere and has been spotless for 42 days total, but this is the first full calendar month since 1913 for a spotless sun. And there are other indicators of the sun being in a funk. Australia's space weather agency recently revised their solar cycle 24 forecast, pushing the expected date for a ramping up of cycle 24 sunspots into the future by six months." As one of the links above indicate, there was a "sunspeck" reported August 21/22, though. Reader MikeyTheK adds a link to a story at Daily Tech on the spotless record.

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  1. imagine all the drivers getting lost by peter303 · · Score: 3, Informative

    When a big solar storm turns off GPS for a few hours or days. I know some people that have become dependent on their nav-computers.
    A weak solar cycle may postpone this problem.

  2. Re:Sunspots down... temperature down? by AtomicSnarl · · Score: 3, Informative

    Perhaps we're entering another Maunder Minimum for a phase of Global Cooling.

    The next few centuries could be fun!

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    Pacifist paratroopers yell, "Ghandi!" when they jump.
  3. Maybe that's why... by megamerican · · Score: 3, Informative

    the Arctic ice refused to melt this summer. Does anyone remember the warning in June that the North Pole would be ice free?

    Of course, their prediction was way off (as always). When someone realized how bad their prediction was, they fear monger some more with more dire warnings!

    Remember that they have only been keeping sat. data for ice extent for a little over 3 decades, which of course is when the sun has been in a very active period.

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    If you have something that you dont want anyone to know, maybe you shouldnt be doing it in the first place -Eric Schmidt
  4. Forecast pushed back by VAXcat · · Score: 3, Informative

    Ah good - that gives me more time to get my HF antenna up. No sunspots - no HF radio propagation....now I can put off climbing up on the roof.

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    There is no God, and Dirac is his prophet.
  5. Re:The real reason this is News for Nerds by everphilski · · Score: 3, Informative

    There are a number of techniques to image the far side of the sun.

  6. Re:The real reason this is News for Nerds by Troed · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, on the contrary. Small "sunspecks" cannot be seen without modern equipment and thus do not exist in the earlier records.

  7. Re:The real reason this is News for Nerds by cluckshot · · Score: 3, Informative

    Check out NASA's Space Weather site or the Stereo pictures NASA is getting and you will not wonder what is going on on the back side of the sun.

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    Never Politically Correct ~ I prefer the facts If you don't like what I say, get a life, or comment yourself.
  8. Best technique: Wait two weeks. by DMCBOSTON · · Score: 3, Informative

    Best technique: Wait two weeks. The Sun's rotation is about 27 days.

  9. Re:Sunspots down... temperature down? by Teancum · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is precisely what is being discussed right now among some climatologists. The problem isn't so much that there is a solar sunspot minimum, but rather that the current trend is that the number of sunspots is still statistically dropping when in fact it should be going up dramatically.... given a more typical historical trend over the past couple of centuries.

    The delay of the start of the next sunspot maximum cycle is what is causing all sorts of head scratching and wondering if there is some other cycle that until now hasn't been observed in the sun. All I can say is thank goodness that there is historical data going back to the 1700's that can confirm this is something that could happen, even if there are a few individuals who don't get it.

  10. August numbers in by ekihn · · Score: 3, Informative

    All, Interesting story but the official numbers are in and there were two days with spots for August (21,22). You can follow all the action at our http://spidr.ngdc.noaa.gov/ website which has SSN back to 1610 (among other indices). No doubt this cycle is unusual in its delayed start though. Regards, Eric

  11. Re:I can't wait by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Senate ratifies treaties, not the President. The Senate under Clinton voted 95-0 not to bring it up for ratification.

  12. Two weeks? You can get the data in ~8 days. by oneiros27 · · Score: 4, Informative

    STEREO A and B are more than 70 degrees apart, so you'd only need to wait 8.25 days from when it leaves the sight of STEREO A 'til it's seen by STEREO B. In a few years, we'll have real-time view of the far side of the sun. (until they come back around near Earth again)

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  13. Re:Politics in Science by d34thm0nk3y · · Score: 4, Informative

    Now why might this have happened? Why do papers predicting a period of low solar activity fail to be published (see the full articles)?

    Sun spot cycles we a well known phenomenon.

    The low point of the cycle has been predicted for 2007-2008 for the last 20 years!

    This graph is one such prediction that you say has been suppressed.

  14. Re:Rubbish by Chyeld · · Score: 3, Informative

    Taoism and the Environment

    Bhudism and the Envirnment

    Islam and the Environment

    Christianity and the Environment

    And that's only a small selection of the articles and discussions. I think the thing you are missing is the same thing many miss but the poster I was actually replying to pointed out:
     
      Few actually follow the tenets of their religion in all matters. Regardless of what our upbringing tells us, we can and often do act or believe in a manner contrary to it .

    However, I believe my point still stands. The vast majority of established religions include the idea that it is our responsibility (for whatever reason as my "summarily wiped out" comment was factiousness) to use and preserve the resources of this world.