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Don't Share That Law! It's Copyrighted

Nathan Halverson writes "California claims copyright to its laws, and warns people not to share them. And that's not sitting right with Internet gadfly, and open-access hero, Carl Malamud. He has spent the last couple months scanning tens of thousands of pages containing city, county and state laws — think building codes, banking laws, etc. Malamud wants California to sue him, which is almost a given if the state wants to continue claiming copyright. He thinks a federal court will rule in his favor: It is illegal to copyright the law since people are required to know it. Malamud helped force the SEC to put corporate filings online in 1994, and did the same with the patent office. He got the Smithsonian to loosen its claim of copyright, CSPAN to stop forbidding people from sharing its videos, and most recently Oregon to quit claiming copyright on state laws." Malamud's talk at Google ("All the Government's Information") is also well worth watching.

18 of 481 comments (clear)

  1. Playing With Fire by PawNtheSandman · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wouldn't keep prodding Arnold like that.

  2. Re:California Strikes Again by d34thm0nk3y · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe if we all pirate these laws it will reduce the financial incentive of these "artists" to create new works.

  3. Re:Profit by ZeroFactorial · · Score: 3, Funny

    That something is also that there is no step 3...

  4. We understand by davidwr · · Score: 5, Funny

    Webster copyrighted "ridiculous" and you didn't have the money to pay for a license, so you created your own word.

    The purpose of copyright is to encourage creativity. See, it works!

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  5. Lock him up! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Carl Malamud is aiding the terrists! If the laws are freely available to be known by the public, the terrists will find out and obey them to avoid being caught!

  6. The Governator by Finallyjoined!!! · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yep, I can just hear him saying "don't prod me!"

    Heh.

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  7. Re:They can't possibly charge him... by Malevolyn · · Score: 3, Funny

    Kal-ee-forn-ee-uh

    I think you mean GAL-ee-forn-ee-uh.

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  8. Re:California Strikes Again by ZeroFactorial · · Score: 5, Funny

    We should copyright the copyright laws with billion dollar royalties for usage.

    You could violate any copyrights you want, and when they try to cite the copyright laws, BAM!

  9. Re:California Strikes Again by HardCase · · Score: 3, Funny

    Uh oh, looks like Spain might have beat you to the punch...

    Nothing for it but to head to court!

  10. Re:Not illegal by moderatorrater · · Score: 5, Funny

    Copyrights on laws may be unenforceable but they are not illegal.

    I sure am glad you popped up to split that hair. Without comments like this, where would we be?

  11. Re:California Strikes Again by Torvaun · · Score: 4, Funny

    Your post made me think two things.
    1) Don't corporations own most of our laws?
    2) How awesome would it be if all laws were required to be in the form of a limerick?

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  12. Re:California Strikes Again by memfrob · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I'm sorry, your honor, I didn't have enough money to know what laws I broke.

    "It is illegal to be poor. Off to the spice mines with you!"

    *shudder*

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  13. Re:California Strikes Again by techno-vampire · · Score: 4, Funny

    I see. Is there any reason, then, when you copy/paste your comments into your browser (after the story goes live) that you can't look to see if anything's been marked as misspelled? For that matter, what ever happened to poorfraeding your posts yourself and correcting any speeling misteaks?

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  14. Re:California Strikes Again by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 4, Funny

    2) How awesome would it be if all laws were required to be in the form of a limerick?

    It could be cool:

    The act of ending a life
    When aggrevated by previous strife
    Or in the course of a crime
    Shall result in a time
    Spent as a large convict's wife.

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  15. Re:California Strikes Again by Narpak · · Score: 4, Funny

    The people must have access to laws in order to obey them.

    Communist! Laws should be kept secret so that terrorists can't abuse them. Whenever someone is arrested they should have to prove that what they did is not illegal; if they can't afford to buy official Law Books they are obviously parasites expecting to get something for free.

    Ignorance is Freedom!

  16. Re:The recurring theme with copyright violation: by atraintocry · · Score: 3, Funny

    Creating these trade groups around standards and charging for access to the information is sick enough. Lobbying the government to turn it into law is even sicker. But c'mon...do they really need to profit off of both at once? That's like strip mining...with babies.

  17. Re:California Strikes Again by vivin · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's because Chrome is built on top of vi.

    In vi :% makes you select the entire range of text, so this obviously means that you are trying to select TEH ENTIRE INTARWEB!!!111

    So Chrome runs out of memory and crashes.

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  18. Re:California Strikes Again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Not at all. The difference in emacs is that, rather than using %, you have to press Left Ctrl + Right Shift + Spacebar + F3 + PgDown + G + PrtScn