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Sub-$100 Laptops Have Finally Arrived

Roman Phalanx writes "OLPC had promised that it would be possible to mass produce a sub-$100 laptop. The folks at OLPC tried to realize that dream by re-imagining what a laptop looks like. How large of screen and keyboard it has. What OS runs on the laptop. Now that OLPC has decided to super size their systems to run Windows XP, the $100 price point has slipped beyond their reach. A Chinese firm has realized that dream. Taking the best from both the OLPC and EeePC. They ditched x86 compatibility and switched to a MIPS architecture to further reduce production costs. HiVision has managed to create a UMPC that sells right now for $120.00. They say they have refined the manufacturing process and have learned from building this laptop how to mass produce a laptop that will sell for $98.00." (More below, including a link to a video of the device.) "The new HiVision MiniNote is due out in October of 2008. TechVideoBlog has footage of one of these Mini Notes being shown off at a trade show in Germany. They have managed to borrow a unit overnight for a while and have done a quick review on it. Overall it looks pretty good. MIPS based processor, WiFi, 1GB flash storage, it runs Linux, has 3 USB ports, Ethernet, SDHC card reader, audio in and out, multi-tabbed Firefox browser support and Abiword for word processing. Running a custom Chinese Linux distrubution named Xip.

Overall performance seems snappy and no problems connecting to WiFi. Other than the lack of a webcam and the Adobe Flash Player it seems perfect. For $98 it looks like quite a value."

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  1. Because the interweb is unreliable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here is a quick link to a youtube video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKQbN6tpYXw

    And I promise, it's not a rick rolling.

    1. Re:Because the interweb is unreliable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      The HiVision site is down (slashdotted)... Site must be hosted on a sub $100 server.

    2. Re:Because the interweb is unreliable by Qalthos · · Score: 5, Funny

      You know, I should be watching, interested in the video and the technical details and how it handles and all, but I watch the video, and listen to the guy talking, and I just start laughing...

      "It has *real* Linux... looks like Linux, uhhh, some kind of Linux is here..."

    3. Re:Because the interweb is unreliable by Mateo_LeFou · · Score: 5, Funny

      "some kind of Linux is here..."

      New slogan for /.? Or at least new annoying meme?

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  2. video resolution...bleh by Connie_Lingus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    looks like 800x480 is becoming the new 1280×1024.

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    1. Re:video resolution...bleh by palegray.net · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Oddly enough, I've been seeing an increase in visitors browsing my site at 800x600 over the last couple of months. It's at 11% now, and probably still climbing.

      Maybe lower-resolution devices really are on the usage upswing.

    2. Re:video resolution...bleh by xx_toran_xx · · Score: 5, Informative

      and $100 is becoming the new $2000

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    3. Re:video resolution...bleh by Handlarn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What old laptop you buy from a friend for $50 wouldn't be capable of running Linux and have a higher screen resolution?

  3. Flash won't be here soon by JackassJedi · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think from past experience (Linux 64-bit) that we'll be waiting a long time for Flash on this one... other than that it seems like a great idea to do what they did!

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    1. Re:Flash won't be here soon by martinw89 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Gnash already has MIPS support. As this project is actually still moving right along, we can only hope for more. Plus, Gnash already supports YouTube (although it seems people are still having problems).

      Bottom line: Thoughts of Adobe supporting Flash on MIPS is a joke. Gnash already supports MIPS but we'll have to wait a little longer for Gnash to support more advanced features.

      NOTE: Swfdec also supports MIPS. I have had more luck with Swfdec, and some distros are making it the default free Flash player. Plus, it seems to have more advanced feature supported.

  4. A feature, not a bug by Mad+Merlin · · Score: 5, Funny

    No flash? That's a feature, not a bug!

  5. Wake me when they ship by tfrayner · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They say they have refined the manufacturing process and have learned from building this laptop how to mass produce a laptop that will sell for $98.00

    So... "Sub-$100 Laptops Have Finally Arrived". And yet... they haven't. It'd be nice (although, apparently, unrealistic) to think that we've learnt by now not to give credence to vaporware. Color me unimpressed.

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    1. Re:Wake me when they ship by eclectro · · Score: 5, Funny

      Color me unimpressed.

      I too refuse to be satisfied until it comes with my happy meal.

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    2. Re:Wake me when they ship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There's no doubt it's possibly vaporware.

      But, there are 2 things to consider. 1. The model they displayed is 120--not too far off from 100, really. 2. The 98 model is due out in october, which is one month away. It might be that it is perpetually 1 month away, but I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt until november.

      The real question for me is the usefulness of it. That thing looks like it's slightly larger than a Nintendo DS, which is pretty small. I'm wondering just how easy this thing will be to use, or if I'll have to resort to hunt and peck, or thumbing the keyboard to type in what I want.

  6. Re:Flashlessness kills it by TheNarrator · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The iphone doesn't run flash and it costs twice as much. No one will ever buy one!

  7. Re:MIPS will make it a hard sell by oldhack · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's about time we ditch the deranged lunacy that is x86 instruction set, especially when even Intel is going on multiple-core strategy. I'd love to see ARM- or MIPS-based multi-core chips take over.

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  8. Re:Flashlessness kills it by dbIII · · Score: 5, Funny

    Most flash can be simulated. Most people can do it by banging their head hard on a desk three times. For IT people it is easier - get somebody to stand behind you to repeat the incredibly stupid term "interweb" and your head will hurt just as much as if you've seen nearly any flash content on the net.

  9. This is the hardware stats by wlfischer · · Score: 5, Informative

    This shows on the YouTube video at 03:58:

    400MHz/32bit CPU
    128M/64M RAM
    1GB NAND Flash
    Linux or WinCE
    7" 800x480 display
    Wireless LAN 802.11b/g
    10/100M ethernet

  10. Re:MIPS will make it a hard sell by evilviper · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just because Aptitude works doesn't mean there's any MIPS packages to download.

    No, of course not.

    It's the fact that:

    it's trivially to compile for MIPS once you've got it compiled for every other major architecture.

    the likes of Debian and other non-commercial distros have policies to ensure that all possible architectures are fully supported.

    MIPS is an extremely popular architecture (Embedded, PDAs, SGI systems, etc.) ...that means there's tons of MIPS binary packages available for download.

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  11. Re:heh.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Indeed! Phones and netbooks will help us eradicate Flash from the Web!

  12. Re:MIPS will make it a hard sell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Out of interest, it's a 32-bit XBurst CPU from Ingenic Semiconductors.

    http://www.ingenic.cn/eng/productServ/XBurst/pfCustomPage.aspx

  13. Re:MIPS will make it a hard sell by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 5, Informative

    Speaking of MIPS, isn't that something you measure x86 chips (or any chips) with? As in millions of instructions per second. I've never heard of an architecture based off a speed rating.

    MIPS was one of the first successful manufacturers of a CPU chip with a reduced instruction set (from which of course the RISC acronym arose) as an alternative to the Intel x86 complex instruction set (CISC). The idea was that you could get a faster computer by being able to execute an entire instruction in a single clock cycle, rather than accept the overheads in silicon required by an architecture that takes more than one clock cycle to execute a single instruction. If you can do it in one clock cycle, it means that the whole instruction must fit within the instruction register, that is operation code, address, and any modifying flags that go with it. CISC instruction sets have to make a branch decision based on the opcode as to whether there's more to read into that register before the operation can complete. Less silicon to navigate meant more efficient structures, thus higher speed.

    For many years, this worked quite well. Intel had to work very hard to make their CISC instruction set as fast as it is; market forces meant that MIPS couldn't keep up in the prime PC market, thus settled out into the small, high efficiency and inexpensive niche. You still see a lot of embedded systems using RISC chips.

    This is also the basis of the controversy you encounter when using the term "MIPS" in it's meaning of "Millions of Instructions Per Second" as a fundamental metric of computer speed -- it's hard to compare a million RISC instructions with a million CISC instructions, in the same way that it's hard to rate an engine by the number of cylinders it has. Myer-Drake Indy cars had a lovely 4-cylinder engine that burned pure alcohol (the "Offenhauser", or "Offy") for many years that had a much higher output than your commercial V8. It's difficult to find a good standard metric some times.

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  14. Sub-$100 by bogidu · · Score: 5, Funny

    Which is even MORE amazing since the dollar is worth HALF what it was 5 years ago!!!

  15. Re:fp by duckInferno · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ignore my retarded parents. I was adopted.

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