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The Google Navy

theodp writes "Is Google preparing to launch its own Navy? In its just-published application for a patent on the Water-Based Data Center, Google envisions a world where 'computing centers are located on a ship or ships, which are then anchored in a water body from which energy from natural motion of the water may be captured, and turned into electricity and/or pumping power for cooling pumps to carry heat away from computers in the data center.' And you thought The Onion was joking when it reported on Google's Fleet of Naval Warships!"

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  1. Hey everyone they're GREEN! by Adambomb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now focus on that apart from the fact that it would also allow them to shift the jurisdiction of their operations when laws change in specific regions.

    Hell, fill them with enough guns and they could just put them in international waters. If any of these are launched, shall we start the pool on how long until the "Google fighting Piracy" joke headlines?

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  2. Isn't that bad for electronics? by bigtallmofo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Google envisions a world where 'computing centers are located on a ship or ships

    My father-in-law worked as a linesman for AT&T about 30 years at a beach town in southern New Jersey. He told me that they had to replace electrnoic components almost twice as quickly as more inland areas because of the more corrosive saltwater air.

    If this is a real effect, I imagine that it will be difficult to prevent on a ship in the ocean.

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    1. Re:Isn't that bad for electronics? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      [citation needed]

    2. Re:Isn't that bad for electronics? by barzok · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ships are going to be tricky but designs meant to keep salt spray out may be workable.

      It's not like the US Navy, every cruise line, and countless shipbuilders haven't ever put a computer on a seagoing vessel before.

      "May be workable"? I'd say it's been solved many times over.

  3. Re:Cooling by chasingsol · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Add to that wave power, custom built ships just for this purpose anchored in place, fiber connection to the mainland and it may well prove to be cheaper over the long term than a land-based air conditioned building that requires lots of power. Air conditioning is a huge part of the long term cost of a datacenter, using water cooling with abundant supplies of water seems like a very green way of doing things.

  4. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  5. Old aircraft carriers would work by Nyckname · · Score: 4, Funny

    But there's the matter of pizza delivery.

  6. Google Earth? by Smivs · · Score: 4, Funny

    So presumably these ships will connect through a series of Google-Sats in geo-stationary orbits, linking to a Google-hub in each country. And behold, Google shall inherit the Earth. Thankfully, a network of Microsoft terrorists will be able to track then using Virtual Earth and infect the servers with Windows, thus rendering them useless and saving us all.

  7. Re:Cooling by silentbozo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Not to mention that there's no property tax (being taxed to occupy real estate), if the local business or economic climate goes bad you can pick up and be towed to a different location, and you can always add more units if demand increases. The one problem I see is pirates. No, seriously - you anchor one of these away from an area patrolled by a decent navy/coast guard, and I can see someone paying you a visit late one night to haul away equipment...

  8. Re:Cooling by nategoose · · Score: 5, Funny

    Google Earth sees the pirates before they get close. I'm not sure what Google Boat does then, but it may involve ninjas.

  9. Re:Okay, it's a neat idea ... by pushing-robot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If Google (or Microsoft, or Apple, or..) doesn't patent every single idea they come up with now, someone else will sue them for it later on. If you were sued as often as Google, you'd learn to CYA every chance you could get. Such insanity is the price of doing business in the USA.

    So owning patents (frivolous or not) is neutral. Releasing patents to the public is good. Suing others over frivolous patents is evil.

    Google may not be doing "good", but they're still following their mantra.

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  10. GoogleWay by newr00tic · · Score: 5, Funny

    No.

    GoogleBoat will GoogleFloat to a (Google)Safe (Google)Location.

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  11. Re:Cooling by andrikos · · Score: 4, Funny

    Or just patrolling sharks with mounted lasers!

  12. Re:More reason? by sakdoctor · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think they can manage 12 nano meters

  13. I, for one, welcome... by rdwald · · Score: 4, Interesting

    But seriously, am I the only one who sees an inevitable path from "offshore datacenters" to "cyberpunk future where major corporations like Google declare sovereignty"?

  14. Re:Cooling by __aaqvdr516 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Having served on a Navy ship I can point out a few problems:

    First, sea water temperatures vary greatly depending on the part of the world you're operating in. It's not uncommon for surface sea water temps to be in the 85F(30C)+ range for most areas where you're likely to moor a ship. The AC units that we used were barely able to keep the small server room that I ran cool under those conditions.

    Second, the motion of the ship caused premature drive failures due to the pitch and roll of the ship. This could be alleviated with solid state drives, but that's a bit off for a data center at the moment.

    Lastly, bandwidth and latency are problematic. Sure, Google could just buy a satellite, but they can't modify the 2000ms latency. Depending on ship size and sea conditions, keeping a satellite lock may be an issue as well due to roll.

    All I can really say to Google is, good luck with all that!

  15. Re:Cooling by DuctTape · · Score: 4, Funny

    Google Earth sees the pirates before they get close. I'm not sure what Google Boat does then, but it may involve ninjas.

    Ahem... that would be Google Ninjas(TM).

    ... but they're still in beta.

    DT

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  16. Right Direction maybe better idea by WillRobinson · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Point taken on water temp, security and connections. Why not just have a submersible barge, and drop down to the ocean floor.

    Makes it easy to moor. Fiber just lays on the ocean floor. Improved Security, and the water will be much cooler. Sort of a barge made like a giant heatsink. Mount the processors to the hull.

    When the barge looses enough hardware, just raise it back up, service it and drop it back down.

    Also reduced problems with being pitched around causing lost disk drives. Hurricanes? No problem.

  17. Re:Cooling by Molochi · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's unpossible. More pirates would cause a corresponding drop in global climate temperature.

    Ramen.

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  18. Re:Cooling by ctetc007 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Also, powering the data center using tidal power would be taking energy out of the ocean. While the water cooling would be dumping energy back into the ocean, it will be dumping in less energy than was taken out, so there should actually be a net cooling of the ocean.