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Russian Google Competitor Embraces Open Source Messaging
rm writes "Internet search and mail provider Yandex, which many view to be Google's main competitor in Russia, has recently added an instant messaging capability to its mail notifier application Ya.Online. As it turns out, the IM service is based on the open XMPP protocol, with connectivity to all other public Jabber servers available from day one. MacOS X and GNU/Linux versions of the app were also released (complete with sources under the GPL) and are determined to be based on the Psi IM client. Yandex looks to be a firm believer in open-source, also running a mirror site for FOSS and actively promoting its branded version of Firefox. Here's hoping that its affair with XMPP will help eliminate ICQ's enormous foothold in Russia."
They're communists! Duh.
The summary makes it sound like this is some major advantage over Google. GTalk is also based on XMPP.
But hey, Slashdot needs to pay the bills, and this makes a great Slashvertisment for Yandex.
Bogtha Bogtha Bogtha
If I knew how to communicate in the Russian language, I'd probably be masturbating to Yandex brand right now.
Russian isn't hard at all. Observe. In Soviet Russia, Yandex masturbates to you. See?
Looking at that disaster of a front page, I'd say these guys are competing with Yahoo, not Google.
The twitter monologues. Click on my homepage and be amazed.
Because XMPP is a standard, and OSCAR isn't? Because XMPP supports communication between users of any server configured for XMPP federation and OSCAR is AOL's personal playground?
Gchat also uses XMPP, and you can use any client that supports the protocol, like say Pidgin.
In Soviet Russia, a thousand jokes post before YOU!!
Circumcision is child abuse.
Because some of us are actually interested in the rest of the world outside USA. Most of the slashdot stories are USA centric. Just look at the front page, FAA, Sarah Palin, DMCA mentioned casually as if everybody is familiar with them. Every once in a while another country gets mentioned and there is somebody complaining about it
Negative moral value of force outweighs the positive value of good intentions.
Thats not really fair.
Show me a public/open protocol used on the internet that has a peice of software that supports ALL of its features.
I don't suspect you'll even be able to find a FULLY compliant SMTP or HTTP client or server. Possibly something on the FTP client list.
HTTP is extensible, once you take that into account its practically impossible to have 100% interoperability. My web browser for instance could give a damn about the fact that IIS says its running ASP.NET crap.
Even my browser doesn't know what to do with the ASP.NET header, it still works. Actually, it does know what to do with it, which is nothing, but thats coincidence in this case. Some other web server could possibly send me a header that DOES require action of some sort, and my browser may not know what to do with it. But I'm not really worried about not viewing pages.
I've been using Openfire as an XMPP server for a few years, a good year within the current company I work for, I've yet to have a problem with connecting between clients for sending IMs, internal or external. I communicate with several people on googles service, and many scattered across the Internet with their own servers, god knows how many clients shared between Linux, OS X, Windows and even an OpenSolaris machine or two.
If you think the xmpp extensions are bad, you should take a look at specs like HTML and CSS. They are certainly 100% doable, but NO ONE does. You do what you need to do to work with most clients/targets the rest is gravy.
Persistent Volume manager for Kubernetes - https://github.com/dwimsey/openshift-pvmanager
You have to embrace it before you can extend and extinguish it.
Duh.
Persistent Volume manager for Kubernetes - https://github.com/dwimsey/openshift-pvmanager
I wish something open standards would come along that could kill Gadu Gadu in Poland.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadu_gadu
The Gadu Gadu client for Windows used to be a lot like the original versions of ICQ, now it is a bloated and ad supported POS. Good luck with it if you want to use it on a Mac or Unix-alike there used to be official clients that worked, but for about two years now using clients other than the official ones has been forbidden with the network. The open source projects have varying degrees of working but it seems that the protocol is tweaked every now and then so it is hard to keep-up.
It seems you want ICQ to disappear. Why? It works for me and for millions other people in Russia.
If a company becomes successful in one country, sooner or later they will want to expand out of their borders seeking new potential business.
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If you've actually visited yandex.com and noticed the big red backward-looking letter "R", then you might be interested to know that it's actually a vowel in the Russian alphabet, pronounced "yah". It's also a pronoun in the Russian language, first-person singular, i.e. equivalent to the English pronoun "I".
So, the term "yandex" replaces the "I" in "Index" with "I", in Russian it comes out "yah" + "ndex" => yandex.
Why "index"? Well all search engines work by building huge inverted indexes (but we slashdotters already knew that, right?).
Wikipedia says it stands for "Yet Another iNDEX". That may be true, but the average Russian citizen, without any knowledge of Western Computer Science, would have no understanding of that cute etymology.
So, the Big Red Yah puts the I back in Index!
HTH,
-Johanus