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RealNetworks To Introduce a Simple DVD Copier
langelgjm writes "The New York Times reports that RealNetworks will begin selling RealDVD today, a software program designed to make copying DVDs a trivial task for the average user. Unlike free alternatives, which generally require some technical knowledge and make it difficult to copy an entire DVD with extras, etc., RealDVD claims to be able to copy the entire DVD, menus and all. While sure to raise the ire of Hollywood, the program does have significant limitations: the DVDs it makes will only be playable on the computer where they were created; or, users can pay $20 per computer to play the DVDs on up to five additional computers."
DVD copying has been trivial for many years now with DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter. I'm sure there's already other programs out there that are even easier to use.
you mean like dvdshrink?
turn up the jukebox and tell me a lie
It's still a DVD and still a CD. However, if you add DRM to a CD it cannot bear the Compact Disk Digital Audio symbol since it violates the Red Book specification. DVD is also the same in the sense that it wouldn't allowed to be called DVD Video because it wouldn't be following the standard set aside for it. DVD (Digital Versatile Disk) is still the name of the actual medium being written to.
Two step process for me. Mac The Ripper to decrypt/rip the entire DVD (menus and all) to a VIDEO_TS folder on my hard drive. Insert CD, click a button. Not too technical.
From there I can use VLC to play it as much as I want on any computer I copy it to. Can have a large HD full of complete DVDs immediately accessible. (and there are apps that will jukebox them for you)
From there I have to use a commercial app like Roxio's Toast to burn it to a physical CD, that works in a real DVD player. But Toast has always been a very good product, worth the coin. Drag and drop the VIDEO_TS folder into Toast and click burn. Only slightly more technical procedure than MTR.
Did I mention MTR strips out the NOOPs ("operation not permitted" when trying to FF past the FBI warning etc) and also removes region coding, during the rip?
Who on earth would pay for REALcrap?
I work for the Department of Redundancy Department.
OS X comes with something better than this seems to be. It's called Disk Utility. Put in the DVD, hit the 'Make Image' button, and get a disk image out. You can play this in Apple's DVD Player (also included with OS X), or with VLC or any other DVD player. I don't think you can burn it to a DVD without removing the CSS (which Disk Utility doesn't do - it's basically a GUI on dd).
Possibly this recompresses as well, but with hard disk space so cheap there doesn't seem much point (and recompressing at decent quality still takes some hours on even a reasonably fast computer).
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That's just the same as "dd if=/dev/$dvd of=my.iso"
Nothing special. Any *nix box can do this, assuming you are dumping to a filesystem that can deal with file sizes > 4GB.
DVD Decrypter, DVD Shrink. How hard is it, really?
I could teach my wife to do that in about five minutes. As an added bonus, it's free, it removes region protection, it removes UOP's (possibly the most annoying part of the DVD format to most people), keeps all the menus, shrinks it onto the cheaper single-layer DVD-R's with virtually zero visible difference and it doesn't have silly restrictions. A program with silly restrictions to stop a particular format from having silly restrictions?
I just backed up a couple of my boxsets using this because they were slightly damaged when we took them on holiday with us and I don't want to pay for them again if we do damage them. The majority of the time was spent looking at a little window wending its way through the DVD and swapping discs (I only had the one DVD-writer drive plugged in at the time and had to swap original for blank constantly).
I even did it using WINE because the PC with the writer was a home Linux server, and it worked perfectly. I very much doubt you could make it THAT much simpler, except possibly joining the two programs together and incurring the wrath of the DVD industry by doing so (does this software strip region-protection? It doesn't mention it).
I can't see anybody using this... people "in-the-know" enough to distinguish between DVD-R, DVD+R, DVD-RW, DVD+RW, DVD-RAM etc. and who know that this "is possible" are probably already doing it. I can't even get my parents to copy their CD's before they scratch them and that's a one-click operation. I can't see them doing it for their DVD's even if it's a one-click operation with this software. And, to be honest, I'd rather show them the "two-click" method that gets rids of the UOPS because that would astound them and they would kill to have that feature on their existing DVD's.
Noooo. Compact Disc - with a 'c', coz it's round. Disk with a 'k' is for the hard or floppy varieties. Oh, and DVD is just DVD the Versatile stuff was dropped ages ago.
or k9copy?
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If you find it, tell me. So far, what I've done is used ddfmrip.bat, AutoGK, AutoGKAdd (it's a hacked-together AutoIt script) and some homebrew batch files tying these together. The downsides are;
- I still have to tell it what VTS/PGCs I want done (honestly, I have no idea how any program could work this out - a lot of DVDs have 2 chains for some episodes and not for others, so doing it by approximate time is out)
- It requires a lot of hard disk space
- The programs aren't properly named (I can get as far as giving them season names and episode numbers, there'd need to be a DVDDB similar to CDDBs for proper automatic episode naming - maybe a homebrew IMDB scraper?)
- It requires Windows (although AutoGK is the only usable program I've liked on either Linux or Windows, so my rip-box is stuck as Windows anyway).
At any rate, it's still very dirty, a proper solution like Handbrake (but for Windows or Linux) would be nice.
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You can. Learn to Firehose.
I prefer use AnyDVD. It is based offshore and kept very current. :) http://www.slysoft.com/
AnyDVD can strip region Coding too... plus it rips HD-DVD and Blu-Ray HD content too (removing all CCS, Region coding, and other DRM like BD+, etc..)
You can burn back to a blank DVD (double or single layer DVDs, but DVD-R works best in most players) or to a blank Blu-Ray "BD-R" using the burner of your choice.
Standard set-top players should play the burned disks just fine in most modern DVD drives. (I use CloneDVD2 for this)...
I find taking one (or each type) of your burned disks to the store and trying it on the set-top DVD players *before* purchase (where DVD drive showrooms are available) makes pre-sales testing go smoother. Not all set-top DVD players are created equal nor are they all well-endowed by their creators...
A Blu-Ray burner is way too costly at this time, but I have ripped a few Blu-Rays with AnyDVD HD (same program, but you can pay for the more expensive HD ripping key if desired) and they sure look good playing from their DRM-Free and Region-Free images off my HDD (at 1920x1200).
Who says that HDCP (another hardware-based DRM schema) monitors are required to watch digital HDMI Blu-Ray content on my PC!
I am SURE that rips of disks that have no region coding and no CCS and BD+ or any other DRM would play on about any flavor of *nix that had a media player which can handle the format...
Blu-Ray "BD-R" burners need to come down in cost to a reasonable level and blank media needs to be under $1 per disk... then I'll just go to that. Business as usual.
(Of Course, I purchase ALL of the disks that I "rip" and copy for MY PERSONAL USE ONLY, Ahem..) You know, for my Non-Windows and Non-OSX boxes and for use in other devices that I own...
"Backup Copies". Also great for the typical destructive 2-18 year olds who want to "watch" a copy of my new movie and often return it scratched because apparently they used it as a slider to move furniture...
I Purchased AnyDVD and CloneDVD2 two years ago (and later the HD upgrade for the AnyDVD ripper) and they are still going strong with frequent and free updates and it has worked on hundreds of DVDs and a few Blu-Rays and several HD-DVD disks too ever since.
I NEVER pay Real Networks for anything...
The problem with DVD shrink is that development stopped even before ARCoSS, which means that many newever DVDs can not be ripper directly without additional software. You can eiuther use DVD Decrypter (which is free, but introdues a very cumbersome step into the mix) or you can buy AnyDVD which sits just above the driver level and makes the DVD in the drive appear as a normal unencrypted, non copy-protected DVD. So even with DVDShrink, which is probably the best thing out there in my opinion, you either waste time or money, which is really the same thing anyway.
Only on Windows...
Handbrake for MacOS X happily DeCSSs your dvds, in addition to having more options and profiles available.
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CloneDVD isn't free, but it does everything that this program claims to do, except without any DRM (AnyDVD, often sold together with CloneDVD, helps eliminate DRM and region codes). all it takes is a few mouse clicks on the "next" button after you've popped the DVD and a blank into your computer, and the program starts making a duplicate of whatever movie you want. works on any video DVD, and it will also strip out previews/warnings for you (AnyDVD will also automatically skip over previews/warnings for DVDs you watch on your computer) and let you select the language/audio tracks you want on the copy. if you have a dual-layer DVD9 burner, you can just click "next" without changing any settings at all.
RealDVD is worthless plain and simple. it's not going to spawn anything except some suckers who are willing to waste their money on crippled software/DVDs.
If your looking for simplicity FairUse Wizard (www.fairusewizard.com) is pretty good.
It's been a while since I used it but I remember it being easy and quick with good output.
AFAIK Handbrake is for both win, linux and OS X
Handbrake on some platforms cannot decrypt CSS. Can you name three new releases without CSS?
It does not violate the DMCA, since they do not remove the CSS, and they have a license to use it.
mov ax, 4c00h
int 21h
And if the DVD has CSS you'll wind up with NOTHING of use by doing that. Simply copying the VIDEO_TS folder to a new DVD or disk image will result in CSS-scrambled content that can't be unscrambled because the key to unscramble it is in a non-normally-readable portion of the disk. Meaning, a program designed to read video DVDs can get at the key, but it isn't in the filesystem that the OS sees.
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apt-get install libdvdcss2
k9copy is really nice to, and everything could be find in debian-multimedia repository.
I also recommend the GUI and CLI versions of HandBrake. The CLI can be scripted and the GUI can create a queue. It just so happens I'm ripping Seinfeld; using the GUI to queue up the job (4 episodes and 8 extras ripped at 640x480 2-passs H264, and the four episodes ripped as 320x240 MP4s for iPod) took less than five minutes. To make it easier I just name each file 1.mp4, 2.mp4, 3.mp4, etc. to begin with and then rename the episodes when done. The GUI takes the guesswork out of figuring out what to do for title & chapter; I've only used the CLI for disks that crash the GUI (like 2 of the 4 discs in The Simpsons - Season 10 and The Legend of Drunken Master.) (Note that the CLI can return chapter info but the GUI gives visual previews so you can see exactly what you're getting.)
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