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High-Speed Broadband Making Headway In the US

darthcamaro writes "No, the US isn't the fastest nation on Earth, and it's not the most connected. But according to a new report, it sure is getting a whole lot better lately. 'I think the US growth rate is something we expected,' David Belson, Akamai's director of market intelligence and author of the report, told InternetNews.com. 'If you look at the money being spent to build out the fiber to the home infrastructure, and if you look at the competitive deals that are going on, vendors are trying hard to make it affordable and "outspeed" each other.'"

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  1. Stupid benchmark. by JustNiz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    >>> "vendors are trying hard to make it affordable and "outspeed" each other"

    Yeah...by introducing limits on customers usage of bandwidth and the most popular protocols. This is NOT a net win (pun intended) for end-users. I'd rather have slower link with unrestricted access than have a theoretically faster link that I can't use to do what I want.

    1. Re:Stupid benchmark. by polar+red · · Score: 1, Insightful

      shop around and find someone who suits your needs.

      But there isn't that much choice, is there ? all those ISP's all look alike: same prices, same speeds, and they don't really want the market to change ...

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    2. Re:Stupid benchmark. by antifoidulus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah, and I would rather actually have access that actually goes at a decent speed and not have to worry that my neighboors are sucking up all the bandwidth. I live in Germany right now, and unless I get online early in the morning or late at night, I pretty much have 0 bandwidth. I have to fucking cache youtube videos because some asshat upstream wants to hog all the bandwidth. I say bring on the caps!

    3. Re:Stupid benchmark. by eepok · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This PR release (which it really seems to be) sounds a great deal like Bobbitt's "Market State" where the battle cry is "Maximize Opportunity!"-- or in other words: "It's really, really fast... so long as you don't use the 'really really fast-ness' too much."

      There's no use on having a formula 1 race car if you're only allowed to do 10 laps a month. On a track filled with mandatory diversions.

    4. Re:Stupid benchmark. by Chaos+Incarnate · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I did shop around. The only provider I can find that services my apartment (ignoring dial-up, as that's not a 24/7 solution, and ignoring satellite, as beyond its traditional failures I don't have anywhere to mount a dish) is Comcast.

      Choice would be great, but not everybody has that option.

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    5. Re:Stupid benchmark. by Wildclaw · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If someone can "hog all the bandwidth", that is a sign of a badly managed network. Ensuring that each user gets their fair share without artifically limiting the whole network is one of the main responsibilities of an ISP.

      Ten years ago I could have understood it, but with todays technology it should no problem ensuring that each user gets their fair share. Of course, lots of ISPs still deal in ancient idiotic ideas like capping per tcp session. Sure, it is the simplest way to cap, but it is just as easy to bypass (by using more sessions than others). And a special mention to all the cable companies with their "shared last mile networks" that are causing problems most everywhere.

  2. BwaHAHA: by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 4, Insightful
    From TFS:

    "...and if you look at the competitive deals that are going on, vendors are trying hard to make it affordable and "outspeed" each other."

    As opposed to, uh, slapping each other on the back while they fix prices and swallow up any hope of independent providers and actual competition while they stretch their already-inadequate infrastructure to a taffy-like consistency as they arbitrarily mess with their own traffic, routing it through mysterious big boxes that read, "NSA SEKRIT BOX -- DON'T TOUCH" after they force their customers to sign EULA's which read like some Kafka-esque road to nothing(except certain death).


    And their commercials suck, too.

  3. Wrong Direction by 1gkn1ght · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They need to stop working on getting people with high speed internet faster internet, and work on getting people that only get dialup high speed internet.

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    1. Re:Wrong Direction by Rie+Beam · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, what they're currently doing makes perfect sense from a business stand-point.

      People who don't have or use the Internet are few and far between, being generally uninterested in the concept (read: "I don't even own a computer!"), or they live in an extremely rural environment, which means the profitability of serving them in lessened, having to roll out new cable to serve just a few people.

      People who have dial-up, on the other hand, are already online. They know what's out there. They might say, "Well, I only check my e-mail and the news", but give them a taste of high-speed and they become e-addicts. This isn't exactly helped by the driving emphasis on media-rich websites nowadays, to the point where some people feel they should just "bite the bullet". It feels like less and less of an option with each day, especially each time a friend of theirs sends a link to them, only to have them apologize that "I have dial-up, and it will take forever to load..."

      Having high-speed is basically becoming an issue of having a bigger e-penis. You don't really need it, and can get by just fine without it, but sometimes that $50 a month doesn't look too bad when cozied up with instant page loads and more accessibility to video content. It's a modern convenience and, much like driving a big car, owning a big house, etc, it can sometimes be a symbol of having enough money to afford such a technology, even when it's outrageously over-priced in comparison.

  4. From my experience by esocid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I haven't seen much in the way of vendors are trying to outspeed each other. Verizon did recently just lay down some fiber where my parents live (in virginia) but speed has been stagnating since I remember first getting cable internet sometime in 1999, maybe verizon may spearhead the switch to fiber and increased speeds.
    Vendors may be increasing areas of coverage slowly but I'd say gaining customers is their priority, not upgrading networks. Lack of competition may be the source of this stagnation since only 4 names come to mind when I think broadband: Time-Warner, Comcast, Cox, and Verizon FIoS. Who else is rolling out fiber?

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  5. Thank your government by InvisblePinkUnicorn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Do you think you're alone? I'm sure most of the customers are unhappy as well. High prices. Bad service. No choice. So if there is such a high demand for better service, why doesn't your current service provide it? There's no incentive. You all keep paying for it. If you all chose to go on strike, they'd listen up. But if you go on strike, you lose the service, which is not the best solution. So what's the other possibility for incentive? Competition. If there was another company providing similar service, your existing company would want to keep your service, and persuade people from the other company to switch to their services. The only way they can persuade customers is through trade to mutual benefit. You get your money's worth, and they get your money. Right now, that is not happening.

    So what is preventing competition from existing? What is stopping someone from springing up to start a local alternative to their crappy service? Or, what is stopping an existing large company that provides a similar service from expanding to provide this service that you and so many others demand? See my subject for the answer.

    1. Re:Thank your government by Dragoon412 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So what is preventing competition from existing? What is stopping someone from springing up to start a local alternative to their crappy service? Or, what is stopping an existing large company that provides a similar service from expanding to provide this service that you and so many others demand? See my subject for the answer.

      It's not just the government's fault. Certainly, they've been an enabler. But can you imagine trying to pitch a system of government-owned infrastructure in the US?

      Part of the problem is the way ownership of the infrastructure works in the United States. Specifically, it's that infrastructure clashing with property rights that provides the problem. If, say, Comcast owns their own lines, in order to provide service, they need to go into a neighborhood (likely with permission from the local government), and tear up everyone's lawns to lay cable. Now that neighborhood has a single provider. You want competition? Now Charter has to come along, tear up your line, and lay more cable. You've got two providers now. That's not much competition. So you want a third? You can see where this is going. And at the end of the day, we've got X lines in the ground for X services, and X number of upgrades that need to be made to the hardware to increase speed and capacity. The system leads to local monopolies and utterly eviscerates competition.

      What the US needs is a system when the government owns and is responsible for maintaining the lines. Something like what they have in Norway. There, every time there's a municipal digging project, they lay fiber. Sewer? Add fiber. Construction? Add fiber. After a while of doing this, you have a massive, single-owner infrastructure. The government then leases those lines to the ISPs, who provide the service to the customers. And compared to the US system, they have less garbage in the ground, less tearing up your lawn, more opportunity for competition, faster deployment/upgrade times, and more even distribution of high-speed coverage. The end result is they have more people with faster connections paying more reasonable prices than here in the US.

      We should, of course, adopt that model. But given the state of US politics, can you even imagine the outcry if our government tried to implement such a system? The telcos would scream bloody murder, and everyone more inclined to mindlessly shout "Ra! Ra! Go Capitalism!" than understand simple economics (read: most of the US) and their collective - and unfortunate - voting power, would shout down any politician backing the thing.

      What we can quite squarely blame the government for, though, are two things (although this is likely not exhaustive):

      1) Paying the telcos hundreds of billions of dollars in subsidies, ostensibly to upgrade our nation's collective internet connection, and seeing that money vanish into the ether.

      2) Allowing telcos to have exclusivity deals with apartment complexes and the like.

      So, sure, the government's in the best position to improve things. But I don't think it's quite fair to lay the blame squarely at their feet.

  6. Well, sort of by overshoot · · Score: 2, Insightful

    'If you look at the money being spent to build out the fiber to the home infrastructure, and if you look at the competitive deals that are going on, vendors are trying hard to make it affordable and "outspeed" each other.'

    As long as you don't read the fine print, anyway.

    I've looked at the offers available here, and the funny thing is that they pretty much permanently lock in the duopoly.

    • No access to other service providers
    • no way to go back to competitive services
    • TOSes that have amazing little clauses (no servers on their network or any network connected to theirs, etc.)
    • The pricing looks good until you notice that it's only for the first few months and then goes through the roof
    • the deals are all quoted as parts of bundles (internet, voice, television) and the bundles aren't cheap at all,
    • ....
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  7. Free Markets and Economic Infrastructure by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'd like some Slashdotters' feedback on the following problem:

    I live in an area of Northern New England where most people don't have broadband. It's somewhat rural, but certainly not 'very rural'. There are maybe 12-15 homes per linear mile in most areas. The ILEC was, until recently, Verizon.

    The main issue was that Verizon is a big public company with a huge market. Yet, it necessarily has limited resources. It's not that running DSL up a residential road would be unprofitable, it's that for the n dollars it would cost, they could spend that same n dollars in Jersey City and get a better return on investment. You can't blame them for seeking that return. For this reason they continue to upgrade and invest in their dense plant and do nothing in their sparse plant. When they still owned the area, an engineer told me their plan went to 2014 and our county wasn't on the plan.

    Now, since then Fairpoint has taken ownership of the plant. They want to sell voice and data, sure, but they also want to sell video service over DSL, which is where the real money is (for now anyway). So, they're sending trucks around, surveying lines and poles, figuring out the fastest way to get DSL in. Their logistics make Northern New England look like a huge market, where Verizon saw it as a distraction. They're even finding CO's where Verizon installed DSLAM's 3 years ago but never offered service, simply because they couldn't be bothered. Some people are getting lit up the next business day after calling. This is very positive, we're lucky the plant was sold.

    However, for any sized market, there's still a long-tail where people aren't going to be profitable enough to serve. We had Rural Electrification in 1936 which is largely parallel because both served/would-serve to improve total overall economic efficiency. There are also PUC's which can force changes (in theory), and towns can bond for their own fiber plants. However, Government is always the easy 'big stick', but it would be nicer, more sustainable, and more peaceful, if there was a creative third-way. Besides that, the US Federal Government already charged us all for FTTH and it never materialized. So it's not just violent, it's dysfunctional. And the municipal fiber projects are very slow to meet market need, and seemingly often have management and funding problems.

    So, I'm asking folks here for great 'third-way' ideas. I've come up empty, but there are lots of clever thinkers in these parts.

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  8. Oh, joy! by mpaque · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Does this mean that someday soon, I may see speeds in excess of 768K/384K [1] to my very own home? You know, what AT&T calls "High Speed Internet?" Oh, frabjous joy!

    1. Actual speeds based on DSL synch rate, may vary, and are not guaranteed. Many factors affect speed. Service and speed not available in all areas.

  9. Stupid economics by Ostracus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "If someone can "hog all the bandwidth", that is a sign of a badly managed network."

    Or a sign of users who don't understand what "shared resource" means.

    "Ensuring that each user gets their fair share without artifically limiting the whole network is one of the main responsibilities of an ISP."

    "Fair share" is right up there with "unlimited" as the most abused words in a discussion about broadband.

    If life was fair, then people wouldn't be leaving their P2P connections running full-tilt 24/7 and giving everyone else affected the middle-finger.

    "Ten years ago I could have understood it, but with todays technology it should no problem ensuring that each user gets their fair share."

    Good thing US schools are teaching a healthy dose of economics right along side their technology courses.

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    1. Re:Stupid economics by Wildclaw · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Fair share" is right up there with "unlimited" as the most abused words in a discussion about broadband.

      If life was fair, then people wouldn't be leaving their P2P connections running full-tilt 24/7 and giving everyone else affected the middle-finger.

      I love how everyone likes to blame 24/7 p2p:ers when in reality what they do is a minor issue in a well managed network. (Note: Well managed, which doesn't seem to be case with many networks)

      12-18 hours of the day the network really isn't fully used, and as such the bandwidth used by p2p:ers isn't scarce. It doesn't hurt anyone that someone uses it at off hours. Supply is greater than demand. In fact, it is good that some people p2p during that time since it makes use of a resource that would otherwise be wasted. Of course, someone with an "business 101 pseudo economics class" would never understand that.

      Of course during prime time, the lines get congested because everyone tries to use it at the same time, watching their youtube feeds, downloading their big http media files, watching large media files from pay services and browsing the internet in general, oh and using p2p.

      Suddenly the demand is greater than the supply and the resources have to be distributed as such. In other words, everyone getting their fair share. The 24/7 p2p users, who make up maybe 5% of the users, will get their 5% of the bandwidth while the rest get their share 95%. I don't really see a problem with that. It sounds reasonable. You could even give the p2p people less priority as they use the network more over all.

      What can cause problems are two things.

      * The ISP has a bad system that doesn't properly utilize market economy to distribute resources and manages to give too much bandwidth to some people. A system that distributes bandwidth per connection is one example of this, but there are other ways to completly fail.

      * The ISP has oversold their bandwidth so much that during prime time all the people streaming video, downloading game demos and browsing the internet will clog the internet for everyone including the p2p user (who won't mind that much as he downloaded his stuff in advance during the night when noone else was using the lines and therefore can stand the lower bandwidth at prime time).

      Good thing US schools are teaching a healthy dose of economics right along side their technology courses.

      Doesn't look like it from where I am sitting. Fortunally I am not an american.

      Really, monthly caps will do little as long as they are 24/7. Even a beginner economist with a brain (added because brainless people are way too common) should be able to look at usage patterns and tell you that. The only ones affects by a 250GB monthly cap are 24/7 p2p users and they will just decrease their usage slightly to fit within the cap.

      The real problem, being people like ordinary Joe HD streamer that want to view his HD quality football matches and movies during prime time. He and his other fellow prime time users will still manage to create as much congestion as before. Sure, the p2p may use slightly less than before, but then again maybe not. In fact, with a lower cap per month the usage pattern for a p2per may change to include more prime time traffic instead of less.

      Specific prime time caps could fix the problem, but the ones that would be bothered most by those aren't p2p people. They can easily move their usage to less occupied times of the day. It is the youtubers and netflix streamers that will be hit the hardest. And what they are doing is using their connection much like the companies advertised. They aren't using it very heavy. Just at the wrong time of the day when everyone else also is doing it.