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ITunes 8 a Real Killer App; Taking Down Vista
CWmike writes "Apple 's latest version of iTunes crashes Windows Vista when an iPod or iPhone is connected to the PC, scores of users have reported on Apple's support forum. Plug in and Vista crashes and shows the 'blue screen of death.' The errors began showing up immediately after updating iTunes to Version 8.0, which Apple released Tuesday as part of its iPod refresh. 'I just installed iTunes 8 over my iTunes 7 on Vista [and] now whenever I plug in my iPod, I get a blue screen death. Three times so far. Even if it is plugged in on boot, I get a blue screen," said a user identified as 'sambeckett' on the support forum about 90 minutes after Apple CEO Steve Jobs wrapped up the iPod launch."
Expect Apple to blame Vista.
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That this wasn't caught in the testing stages?
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well is it Apples fault OR is it MS Vista that has the problem . Apple would have debugged it on a vista box , But it is posable that a vista update killed it .By mistake or on purpose ,your guess is as good as mine.
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You know, it seems like there are an awful lot of problems with drivers under Vista. Certainly far more problems than I've seen on Vista.
The thing that bothers me about that is the change in driver architecture was billed as a way to make Vista faster and more stable. Why, then, is it that most of the drivers for Vista are less stable and slower than the same hardware running in XP?
It's been a long time.
I had to switch from Ubuntu to check, but iTunes 8 with my iPod is definitely not crashing my Vista Ultimate (free from school, I only keep it because of software for class that requires windows)
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Geesh the last three versions were bloated to the heavens. I think it takes about a minute to start now. A least few recent versions flat out crashed or did not update correctly. And is there any piece of application software that takes more time to update than iTunes? I don't think so.
It's always seemed to me that iTunes for Windows was just slapdash kludge for allowing compatibility between iPods and Windows. My experiences with it have been nothing but buggy and slooooooow. Honestly, I think it just needs to be rebuilt from the ground up for Windows.
In other news 1000 Ubuntu users running under WINE without whining.
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I say that, not because of the code, but because of what itunes 8 is, it's Apple installing some more DRM to close a hole someone found, apple hates DRM, but then amazingly it spends a huge amount of effort maintaining it. Has anyone seen the NBC shows back on iTunes, they're CHEAPER than before, so turns out, Apple was inflating the price, not nbc. Just seems like apple screws you at every opportunity.
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You're saying that Apple has shipped more copies of iTunes than Microsoft has shipped copies of Windows XP and Vista (or Windows Media Player 9 for earlier versions of Windows)? That Apple has shipped more copies of iTunes than all DVD players combined (worldwide!)?
Well, no, actually, I think you're pretty far off base with that one.
Hehe, Apple doesn't follow Apple's UI guidelines :)
If iPods were simply accessible as a USB mass storage device, I don't think there would have been a problem.
From what I can see, Apple uses a proprietary device-type, so they can talk to it using an encrypted connection.
All that, simply to keep you from copying files you supposedly don't have the right to copy.
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Try plugginh an HP printer into the same usb Channel as your iPhone.
This will cause the crash.
In the scenerio I presented to you, whose fault would you think was the crash if you ahdn
t read this story?
Probably HPs.
Just an example of how overly complex windows driver architecture is.
This is why I feel we should go back to the applications installing everything it needs under a directory it creates.
Less mess, easy trouble shooting easy uninstall, not files scattered all over your system.
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Nobody follows the Windows UI guidelines. WMP doesn't, most CD burning apps don't, every single program you get with printers, cameras etc. insists on using what looks like its own private GUI toolkit... Consistency has been seriously out since shortly after XP was released. Writing a Windows app that looks like a Windows app is like using GTK+ 1 to write a new GNOME app.
Admittedly, I'm exaggerating -- but only slightly. The multitude of non-fitting UIs in Windows is getting annoying. One of the things I like about OS X is that the users are so rabid about integration most developers actually make an effort to make their native app look native*. The same goes for Linux, but there it's because people keep submitting GUI patches until the programmer submits to peer pressure.
* Of course the iTunes UI team is a special case. The iTunes UI team is special in many ways.
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Maybe Apple did QA it properly.
THink of the bad press for MS this heaps ontop of Vista. What are people going to remember? iTunes crashes Vista? Or Vista crashes when you plugin an iPod?
The cesspool just got a check and balance.
As some of my siblings have mentioned, Itunes installs at least some modules in Kernel mode. So to all probability Apple fucked up. Now look at the functionality that Itunes offers. For everything it does, Windows has an API. It is a normal application, it should be able to run in usermode. Yet some people think it's perfectly okay to have Apple install drivers on their machine. That's why I think the customers carry part of the blame too: they should have known better and used something else.