Breakthrough In Use of Graphene For Ultracapacitors
Hugh Pickens writes "Researchers at the University of Texas at Austin have achieved a breakthrough in the use of a one-atom thick graphene for storing electrical charge in ultracapacitors. They believe their development shows promise that graphene could eventually double the capacity of existing ultracapacitors. 'Through such a device, electrical charge can be rapidly stored on the graphene sheets, and released from them as well for the delivery of electrical current and, thus, electrical power,' says one of the researchers. Two main methods exist to store electrical energy: in rechargeable batteries and in ultracapacitors, which are becoming increasingly commercialized but are not yet well known to the public. Some advantages of ultracapacitors over traditional energy storage devices such as batteries include: higher power capability, longer life, a wider thermal operating range, lighter, more flexible packaging and lower maintenance. Graphene has a surface area of 2,630 square meters, almost the area of a football field, per gram of material."
Is this another factor of 2 on top of EEStor's still-unproven claims? How many more breakthroughs is it gonna take before something actually happens?
Some advantages of ultracapacitors over traditional energy storage devices such as batteries include: higher power capability, longer life, a wider thermal operating range, lighter, more flexible packaging and lower maintenance.
By contrast, two advantages of batteries are 1) vastly higher energy density, and 2) the fact that they exist.
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2D area vs mass. What that statement was trying to get across was that graphene is so thin that you could almost cover a football field with only a gram of it. Think of spreading cream cheese on a bagel. You only have a gram of cream cheese, though, so you have to spread very, very thin. Except the bagel is the size of a football field, so you have to spread it even more ridiculously thin: only an atom thick. Now instead of cream cheese it's carbon atoms.
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I found this image from Nature magazine useful in imagining how 1 gm of graphene can have such a large surface area..
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v427/n6974/fig_tab/nature02311_F1.html
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Yes, massively folded. Similar technology has been in used for many years to produce multi-Farad 'dime' capacitors, whos surface areas start around the size of a tennis court and go up from there.
These sorts of capacitors have very high capacitances (in the multiples, even tens of Farads) and a 20-50 year life span (or longer depending on how they are built), but also tend to only be able to be charged to fairly low voltages (3v, 5v, etc), and also have fairly high internal resistances (though this might be different for the newer Graphene-based caps), limiting the discharge rate.
This means they won't be replacing batteries any time soon, but the advances we're seeing are pretty cool.
We mostly use these things to run real time clock chips and provide backup power for static ram... i.e. very low current applications.
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If 1 gram of graphene has the surface area of a football field, what's the surface area of a football field of graphene?
One football field, of course. They're both units of area. Now, if you were to ask what the surface area of a VW-Beetle-equivalent of graphene is ...
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So why not just use toilet roll as a capacitor?
That's one of the serious problems with any exceptionally high density energy storage technology. How do you keep the genie in the bottle, and protect the public from the critically stupid in our society.
There was a very cool design for a car whose power source was a high mass flywheel in a magnetic housing. You go to a power station, and the station would spin your flywheel up to some insane RPM rate. The possibility of using this in a hybrid vehicle meant you could get really excellent energy storage and return, it was very efficient.
The only drawback, was that if the bloody thing ever got out of containment, you had a death dealing juggernaut that would buzz-saw a swatch of destruction through the middle of wherever the now flying flywheel was pointed. Then some bright child imagined such a flywheel driven vehicle on a crowded freeway causing a chain reaction of thousands of other similar vehicle, and suddenly you pretty much have a scenario for mass destruction that looks like front row seats to Armageddon.
Whatever technology you finally pick, you'll need to make it very safe, or decide it's a Darwinian herd thinning tool.
Because it doesn't have to layers that are insulated against each other?
However, if you're talking about two toiled rolls, soaked in electrolyte, with an insulator between them, rolled up and packaged nicely, then yes, you can use that as a capacitor (we'd all be thrilled about a capacity measurement and some pictures when you try it out, please?).
Don't worry that the Graphene layer would rip. It's a very, very strong material and the connections between the atoms are strong conjugated double-bonds.
This is the same structure as in Carbon Nano Tubes and Fullerens (C60), just flat (and not cylindrically or spherically rolled up).
The problem to implement Graphene based technologies is rather the synthesis of it, since it's not yet easily possible to create a homogeneous Graphene layer on a large area (i.E. at my Applied Physics institute they create Graphene layers that are not even 1 mmÂ).
If you wanted a thin layer of carbon, wouldn't it be easier just to toast the bagel?
Simple - mount it in a gimbal
More energy, true, but slower release-rate.
A battery has significant internal resistance, even if you short-circuit it the power-levels are limited. (high, but limited)
A capacitator can recharge significantly faster.
Put differently, the thing may only hold 10% of the energy in a battery. But if that energy is released a hundred times quicker, you're still looking at hell of a bang.
The flywheel has embedded permanent magnets. Coils surround it in the case, and spin up/down the flywheel in order to inject or extract energy. It's a brushless DC motor, essentially. Once you include magnetic bearings, you end up with something that can be encased in a near-perfect vacuum, eliminating all friction and giving rather impressive efficiency.
Large-scale systems of this sort are actually in use, just not inside vehicles. There are some electric train systems that use it to recapture energy from trains arriving in the station, and then assist trains as they accelerate out of the station.
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Actually not.
The RPM rate is so high that flywheels get insanely hot as soon as the vacuum is broken, and it has to deal with friction from the air.
With metallic flywheels, this means it breaks apart, and you've got thousands of bits of white-hot magma flying through the air, in a straight line from the direction the flywheel was spinning. Of course your car is going to turned into swiss cheese, and the two cars directly in front/back of you are likely to get damaged as well, but it's not Armageddon.
With carbon-fiber flywheels, the flywheel material is completely incinerated instantly, and DOESN'T risk turning into such deadly projectiles. HOWEVER, you have to have a very good design to deal with the HUGE amount of unimaginably hot air now erupting out the top of the flywheel housing. Mount it properly, eg. externally, on the roof of your car, with a nice thick base-plate, and your vehicle quite quite likely wouldn't face any structural damage. Though, you can definitely expect to need a new coat of paint.
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Or until we invent fertilizer (18th century)...for food
Or until we invent pesticieds/herbicides...for food
Or until we invent underground farming...for food
Or until we invent land reclimation...for land
Or until we invent skyscrappers...for land
Or until we invent seasteading...for land
Or until we invent lunar colonies...for land
Or until we invent large dams...water, food and power (oil)
Or until we invent water treatment...water
Or until we invent reverse osmosis distillation...water
Or until we invent atmospheric condensers...for water
Or until we invent nuclear fission...for power (oil)
Or until we invent fusion...for power (oil)
Or until we invent photovoltaics...for power (oil)
Or until we invent bio fuels...for power (oil)
Or until we invent direct CO2 conversion to hydrocarbons...for oil (from power)
and a big one is:
Or until we invent a trully good electrical battery, one that stores a lot of energy, has high power density, does not wear out, does not use environmentally harmfull components and is cheap (something like these graphene supercapacitors will be under mass production)...for oil
My point is simple. Humanity ran out of resources about 20,000 years ago. We are designed to be hunter/gatherers. The earth can only support a few million hunter/gatherer human beings. It was only through the invention of agriculture and other technologies that we are able to continue. While we will probably ALWAYS have some resource limitation (probably power) there are technologies that exist now that if used can prevent any Malthusian collapse for the indefinet future.
No, capacitors don't have to. In fact even the tiny capacitors you can get at radio shack hold enough power to fry most electronics if it were released at once.
Capacitors only release all the power they hold at once when they fail catastrophically...then they blow up.
However the output voltage of a cap is related to the energy they store so as the output voltage must be adjusted as the capacitor discarges to maintain usable voltage. By oncreasing the resistance in the circuit you can slow the discharge rate of a capacitor to usefull levels.