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Human-Powered Vehicle Speed Competition

nsasch writes "Over at Battle Mountain, NV on SR-305, for the 2008 Battle Mountain World Human Powered Speed Challenge (mirror), some of the best cyclists will be competing in human-powered vehicles to break speed records. The current world record was set in 2002 at the same location with a speed of 129.6 km/h (81 mph) by Sam Whittingham in a custom-made recumbent bike. A lot of advanced aerospace engineering goes into these machines to reach highway speeds on less than one horsepower. Take a look around their site for pictures of the event and this year's records. It ends 20 September, so more pictures and results will be coming."

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  1. The top contender by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is the pinnacle of human-powered vehicle evolution. Here are some features:

    - Compact, lightweight frame cuts down on weight and complexity while adding strength.
    - Unique wheel placement and design ensures maximum power transwer to drive wheel while reducing drag caused by friction stemming from contact surface area.
    - Portability - it's like owning a segway that you can hand-carry into the store!
    - Ability to self-balance while occupied, without the use of a kickstand, leg, or tripod.
    - It's like walking on a wheel and it makes the Segway its bitch.

  2. Human-Powered, eh? by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I see they're pretty much all recumbent bikes, and that's pretty cool and all, and 81 mph is impressive and stuff, but I think maybe they're perhaps suffering from a lack of imagination. Based off the common usages of "Solar-Powered" and "Diesel-Powered", would it be safe to assume that Human-Powered could also mean Human-Fueled?

    Or should I read the fine print before entering the contest?

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    1. Re:Human-Powered, eh? by OldMiner · · Score: 2, Funny

      ...would it be safe to assume that Human-Powered could also mean Human-Fueled?

      Killing people to use their corpses as fuel for your Roadster of Doom may run awry of the "no necromancy or angering the spirits of the dead" rule.

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  3. Re:Breaking Away. by truthsearch · · Score: 4, Funny

    The cop (also riding a bike) could put a red light on his helmet and ring his bicycle bell as a siren... *ching ching* *ching ching*

    Very intimidating...

    And where would he put the suspect after he's caught, in the basket?

  4. Re:Breaking Away. by moderatorrater · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The bitch seat? If you've just been caught by a bicycle cop, I can't imagine a more fitting place for you to sit.

  5. This is what happens by longacre · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is the mountain bike speed record being broken. Spoiler alert: it doesn't end well for the vehicle or the human.

  6. Damn by Daimanta · · Score: 4, Funny

    There goes my plan for a hamster powered car entering the race.

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  7. Not at sea level? by schwit1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What are the advantages and disadvantages of doing this at 1,408m instead of at sea level?

    1. Re:Not at sea level? by Flying+Scotsman · · Score: 2, Informative

      Advantages: Thinner air, less air resistance. Disadvantages: Thinner air, less oxygen for the engines (the person pedaling),

    2. Re:Not at sea level? by Somegeek · · Score: 5, Informative

      This is the longest, paved, straight, flat stretch of road that the organizers are aware of, in the US. Also, Nevada lets them shut it down for certain time windows for the race.

      If you do the race on a banked racetrack you can get an advantage from the wind where you use the bike fairing as a sail. That wind assist is hard to calculate and factor out of the final time, while a small headwind or tailwind on a straight course is easily mathematically removed to be able to equalize the results.

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    3. Re:Not at sea level? by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Availability. My suspicion is that there aren't many places that
      - have a long, perfectly straight and flat road
      - little traffic
      - residents that don't mind having their roads closed for 30 minutes at a time

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    4. Re:Not at sea level? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you do the race on a banked racetrack you can get an advantage from the wind where you use the bike fairing as a sail. That wind assist is hard to calculate and factor out of the final time, while a small headwind or tailwind on a straight course is easily mathematically removed to be able to equalize the results.

      "Legal" runs through the 200 meter speed traps must be made when the wind is below a certain speed (defined in the IHPVA rules, along with allowable downgrade for the road and various other conditions). There is no correction done for head or tail wind.

    5. Re:Not at sea level? by smellsofbikes · · Score: 2, Informative

      Since power required to overcome air resistance rises as the cube of the speed (force rises as the square, as a function of the cross-sectional area) there's a big advantage to high elevation. Since power produced drops off roughly linearly(*) with elevation because of reduced oxygen for the rider, you gain more by going to higher elevations than you lose. Many long-standing Olympic cycling (and other speed-related sports) records were set at the 1968 Olympics in Mexico City, at 3200 meters elevation.

      * as I recall, pressure drops off as an exponential function, roughly pressure = sealevel pressure * e ^ (temp / (acceleration of gravity * height in meters)) but don't quote me on that.

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  8. Recumbents by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I think recumbents are incredibly cool, especially the Windcheetah three-wheeler. I could use one of those for winter training when the surface is too greasy for the conventional bike. It's just a pity that recumbents aren't so good on the hills where you can't get to produce power from the muscles in your arms the same way you can on an upright, although in fairness I tend to do most of my climbing sitting in the saddle these days except for when I'm near the top.

    These faired HPVs are amazing, I think they're a great illustration of how much power a human can translate into motion if he has an efficient enough machine under him.

    As for this speed challenge, it'd bring a lot of publicity to the even if they could persuade big name pro cyclists or at least high profile ex-pros to take part.

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    1. Re:Recumbents by EaglemanBSA · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually, recumbents are just fine on hills, they just use different, rather untrained muscles - it takes time to get these into shape. Human power production and biomechanics are my area of study, and I've just finished a project developing a human-powered utility vehicle. It is truly amazing what you can do with 150 watts of power and some creative design.

      I'd really like to see recumbents become more mainstream here in the US. They can make riding a lot more pleasant, and can make trips of up to 20-30 miles feasible for many people who thought otherwise. With the small market penetration though, they're in a vicious circle of high cost (typically >$1.5k). You can see my HPUV in action here.

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    2. Re:Recumbents by Flying+Scotsman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes, that it true. UCI races have very particular specifications as to how your bicycle must be set up. Lots of little details, such as exactly how far forward or back your seat must be, how the handlebars are shaped, specific characteristics of the wheels, etc. The idea is to make the race about the athletes, not about their bikes. Think of it in terms of auto racing. Do you think that F1 cars should be allowed in a NASCAR race?

    3. Re:Recumbents by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Ever hear the story of Graham Obree? He was a track rider who built his own bikes. He invented this low-tuck position that was subsequently banned. So then he invented the 'superman' position, everyone else copied it, and then it was banned too. I'm surprised a movie hasn't been made about him. He was a high profile rider at the same time as Chris Boardman was riding on the track with the famous (and expensive) Lotus bike.

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    4. Re:Recumbents by Flying+Scotsman · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm surprised a movie hasn't been made about him.

      Not sure if you were kidding with that line, but a movie was made about him.

      The Flying Scotsman

  9. Holy *$&! by ahoehn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Am I the only one that thought, "Holy Shit!" at 81mph?! On flat ground? On a bike?

    I've never broken 40 letting my fat ass drag me downhill on a roadbike - I can't imagine what it's like to be able to propel yourself at 80mph with your feet.

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    1. Re:Holy *$&! by Nadaka · · Score: 3, Funny

      I've done over 35 on a crappy wal-mart bike on a strait level road. Unfortunately there was a pile of wet leaves I didn't notice till it was too late. Time really does seem to slow down when it feels like you are about to die. It felt like forever for the bike to flip over and land on my head while I used my face to brake in the gravel and dirt on the side of the road. It didn't really hurt until they started sewing my ear back on.

  10. Human Powered? by JayAitch · · Score: 2, Funny

    Was I the only one thinking the article was about making Bio-diesel from Liposuction Clinic's waste?

  11. An egyptian locomotive? by mangu · · Score: 2, Informative

    As Mark Twain put in his "Innocents Abroad", the Egyptians burned mummies in their locomotives: "The fuel is composed of mummies three thousand years old, purchased by the ton or by the graveyard for that purpose, and sometimes one hears the profane engineer call out pettishly, 'D--n these plebeians, they don't burn worth a cent--pass out a King!"

  12. Re:More Information on the event... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Putting a UCI-class rider in one of those things would be great to see. The speeds would be off the charts. That would be the quickest end to your pro career. Much worse than getting caught for doping.

    There are articles of agreement between IHPVA and UCI and, over the years, many UCI-class riders have ridden in hpv's (at HPV events)--so there is no "political" problem.

    The problem is teaching a rider how to do a flying 200 meter speed run--it is not like a normal bicycle because the gearing is so much higher. Acceleration is very slow at higher speeds and the rider has to learn to accelerate carefully over several minutes. The goal is to pick a pace so that you exhaust yourself (run out of breath!) just as you enter the timing traps. Bottom line--just putting a strong rider into an hpv will not guarantee record speeds, it takes practice and thought.

  13. Re:More Information on the event... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    What makes Battle Mountain the place to do this kind of thing is it's the smoothest, flatest road that the local community is willing to close.

    Actually, it is not flat and has the steepest slope permitted under the ihpva rules for the 200m record. Unlike other forms of land speed record you don't have to do both directions, as in general the riders are only able to do one good run each day.

    This is a bit of a cop-out though, as even the miniscule slope permitted under the rules becomes significant at high speed. Look at it like this - if you weight 100kg and drop 1m you gain 1kj of energy.

    A gradient of 1/100 is nothing if you're pootling along at 4m/s, but if you're doing 40m/s it starts to provide a significant amount of your energy output. If Battle mountain were truly flat, the records would be significantly lower - perhaps 70-75mph.

  14. Sam Whittingham's Bike Design by catchblue22 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I didn't see it mentioned in the summary, but world speed record holder Sam Whittingham's bike was designed by a Bulgarian sculptor, Georgi Georgiev, who is not an engineer. The bike was not designed from computational fluid dynamics, or other modern engineering techniques. The design emerged from the brain of Mr. Georgiev; he designed the bike to "hide from the air", while providing Sam Whittingham with just enough space to pedal comfortably.

    I have always been amazed that Sam Whittington and Georgi Georgiev have been able to consistently beat teams with engineers and batteries of computers with advanced aerodynamics software. Mr. Georgiev is something of a genius.

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