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Barr Sues Over McCain's, Obama's Presence on Texas Ballot
corbettw writes "Bob Barr, the Libertarian Party's nominee for president, has filed a lawsuit in Texas demanding Senators John McCain and Barack Obama be removed from the ballot after they missed the official filing deadline."
Oh, I used to love being a Libertarian when it was legal to do so in my state! Those guys are great.
But seriously, since when have politicians, especially Republicans bothered to follow laws? I mean, really. Simple election laws are nothing compared to what's happened during this past administration.
I don't respond to AC's.
The law is made for the people, by the people. Sort of, anyway.
Federal elections are about choosing between Democrats or Republicans. So long as these two can get ready in time, it's all that matters. Let's keep in mind that we have a legal system here that is based on common law. US law is about reality, not books and schools.
The bottom line is that Libertarians are just not part of the democratic process in the United States. He should just shut up and choose to be Democrat or Republican. Otherwise, it's just not real...
That might be lost on our American bretheren. I don't think that particular brand of water based sexual lubricant is sold in the USA
LMAO
Real happiness lies in the completion of work using your own brains and skills.
Lots of products made by American companies are sold under different brand names in different markets. I'm surprised they didn't change it for the US market As for my being a pompous douche - everyone has a hobby, that's mine, leave me to it.
Real happiness lies in the completion of work using your own brains and skills.
Why thank you kind person, that's the nicest thing anyone's said to me on slashdot for ages
Real happiness lies in the completion of work using your own brains and skills.
the founding fathers would laugh their asses off at that supposition
the founding fathers had some notion of the common good and contributing to it
meanwhile libertarianism guts the concept of the common good and declares selfishness supreme, to the ruin of all
were libertarianism the driving philosophy during the usa's drive for independence, it would have lost the revolution and have remained a british colony. there would be no common cause, only selfish isolated individuals looking after their own. libertarians have a fantasy that everyone would recognize the threat and band together in unison to defend everyone. libertarians have a funny way of thinking that by promoting selfishness as the supreme ideal, that somehow anyone anywhere would somehow sacrifice anything for a greater cause for any reason. utterly moronic
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
While it is true that the constitution does not specifically require members of the electoral college to vote for any particular candidate, the composition of the slate of college electors is in general highly regulated under state law and most states have laws that require them to vote in a manner that reflects the certified election results. There are penalties for failing to do this and there are provisions to annul the vote of anyone who does so in violation of state law.
It should also be pointed out that even if Barr were the only one on the ballot, Texans have not yet actually voted for president, only in presidential primaries, which have no constitutional status or effect. Remember the electoral college slate doesn't get to go to the electoral college UNLESS they actually win the vote, which may be hard to do if they are not on the ballot and no write-in votes are allowed.
However, in keeping with the tradition of the Bush presidency, which largely reflects Texas thinking, it seems hard to imagine that Texas wold actually uphold the law even if in the unlikely event that the Texas Supreme Court currently stacked with right-wing justices were to actually rule that way.
For republicans the law is like the inconvenient truth about global warming and its man made cause, something that can always be ignored for political purposes.
Your right on the official recount Bush won. Even the recount that Kerry requested and was denied had Bush winning.
However any statewide recount would have had Gore winning. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_election_recount
But what I find most interesting in the results was that the "certified" recount that was performed had Bush winning by more than any other recount that could have been performed. Especially when combined with other factors,
1) Bush's brother's influence in the state
2) Pre-election removal of blacks (mostly-democrat) from voting records (96,000 names, 1% of total electorate. Very simular to practice Bush had done in Texas a few years before.)
3) Roadblocks were placed in heavily democratic areas of the state making it hard for democrats to get to polling stations to vote
4) when race was too close to call there was the Volusia error where Gore was given -16022 votes by a diebold machine.
5) manual recount in Miami-Dade County was halted when republicans flown in from other states rioted (pretending to be locals angered by the recount).
If anything I am shocked that after that election fiasco that heads did not roll. This is corruption only short of banana republics. Whether you are Democrat or Republican this type of fraud has no place in a free nation. It makes me disgusted that anyone of ANY political affiliation could do some of these things and still think of them selves as an American.
I understand the argument and I also understand that the Supreme Court ordered the counting stopped. They then used the reason that there wasn't enough time to finish the counting that they had ordered stopped as an excuse to hand the election to Bush.
Pathetic.
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