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Review of Discovery Institute's Evolution Textbook

Darwinned writes "Intelligent Design is still a hot topic, as evidenced by recent legislation mandating that it be taught in school. Pro-ID group Discovery Institute has released an evolution textbook for use in schools, but a review shows it to be chock full of bad science and questionable reasoning. 'The book doesn't only promote stupidity, it demands it. In every way except its use of the actual term, this is a creationist book, but its authors are expecting that legislators and the courts will be too stupid to notice that, or to remember that the Supreme Court has declared teaching creationism an unconstitutional imposition of religion.'"

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  1. revenge on the nerds by Phantom+of+the+Opera · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In the US, its not fashionable to know math or science. It's not fashionable to work hard. 'Being liked' is in. Girls are encouraged to look pretty and boys are encouraged to be force wielding leaders (to later wind up as PHB's?).

    Look at kids' movies and TV shows. The message is that all you have to do is believe in yourself. Nothing else. God forbid we ask these delicate flowers to do more than the minimum.

    Prosperity is being taken as a birthright. I half wonder if the outcry against illegal aliens is due to the fact that these people work hard. The complainers may one day be expected to. Can't have that!

  2. Re:Intelligent Design, Stupid Tactics by Torontoman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ID is about as legit as Scientology.

  3. Re:2 - The Great Flood (Where are all the Unicorns by Free+the+Cowards · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ah, but the beauty of YEC is that it really can't be disproven. Any time you have evidence that the Earth is older, all they need to say is that God created it to look older.

    This is fundamentally why YEC should not be taught in a science classroom. It is not disprovable and thus not science.

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  4. Re:So let them. by Free+the+Cowards · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When I'm a decade or two older, the young people who will be affected by these decisions today will just be entering the workforce, bringing their bright new ideas into focus, and beginning to drive the next round of scientific and technological advances.

    I do not want these people to believe that one of the most successful, important, and useful scientific theories in history is a lie. I do not want these people to believe that "God did it" is any kind of reasonable scientific answer. I don't want the doctors and medical researchers who determine the length and quality of my old age to be spouting off about "irreducible complexity" and other such nonsense.

    You're wrong about losing the battle. Here we are conversing on a globe-spanning information network using unimaginably powerful computing machines. We've always won, and we'll keep on winning, because in the end we're right and they're wrong. But it won't be thanks to people like you.

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  5. Re:Yeah by JetJaguar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You can imply that there is bias all you want, but there is one very big difference between the two. The biologist has studied biology, the scientific process involved in researching the subject and is able to make an evidenced based critique of an ID argument.

    Rebuttals from the ID camp contain no such expertise or references, and are usually based on long refuted arguments against evolution, but little or nothing that truly supports ID.

    This isn't a case where he-said she-said attempts to discredit both sides will work. One side clearly has evidence on their side, and the other does not.

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  6. Re:Evolution textbook!? by Gordonjcp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They are functional (but nevertheless, crazy as a shithouse rat) religious zealots

    I think it's worth pointing out - particularly to people in the US - that the Muslim countries of the Middle East led the world in science and technology, once. Why do you think so many stars have Arabic names? Why do so many words in science have Arabic roots? Think carefully...

    Now think about what happened when they let the conservative religious crazies take control.

    Just sayin'

  7. Re:SCOTUS reference anybody? by grub · · Score: 5, Insightful


    Atheism is a religion.

    Atheism is a religion like not collecting stamps is a hobby.

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