Security Flaw In Yahoo Mail Exposes Plaintext Authentication Info
holdenkarau writes "Yahoo!'s acquisition of open source mail client Zimbra has apparently brought some baggage to the mail team. The new Yahoo! desktop program transmits the authentication information in plain text. The flaw was discovered during a Yahoo 'hacku' Day at the University of Waterloo (the only Canadian school part of the trip). Compared to the recent news about Gmail exposing the names associated with accounts, this seems downright scary. So, if you have friends or relatives who might have installed Yahoo! desktop and value their e-mail accounts, now would be a good time to get them to change the password and switch back to the web interface."
Sorry but telling people to switch to the web interface and change the password is more than just a little paranoid.
This might be hard to believe but less than ten years ago virtual all passwords were transmitted in plain text.
If you aren't surfing in insecure wireless then you really have nothing to worry about. And if you are surfing on insecure wireless than frankly you should assume HTTPs will protect you.
I mean seriously, most sites transmits their passwords in plain text - most people use the same credentials everywhere so whats the big fudging deal?
If you can't trust your upstream provider you should be using someone else anyways.
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Look at the fine picture. It's a wireshark trace. The complaint is that it is issuing IMAP traffic without even SSL wrapping it.
Modern practice, virtually all passwords when transmitted on the wire are protected through encryption. Preferably with x509 certificates mitigating the opportunity for man in the middle (in ssh's case, the more manual known_hosts mechanism). There is good reason.
Just because something was done 10 years ago, doesn't mean it was ok. 10 years ago, most desktops ran Windows 98. 10 years ago, Macs didn't implement preemptive multitasking. 10 years ago, some mailers would gleefully execute attachments without any check with the user. 10 years ago, IE would gleefully execute random ActiveX objects on the web.
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I haven't looked carefully at the rest of the platforms that Yahoo provides, but I believe that at least Yahoo Messenger (when connecting with Pidgin anyway) also sends the same auth credentials in plain text. Not that the overall problem is insignificant (*any* time auth credentials are sent, in any context, they should be encrypted), but worrying only about IMAP is naive in this case. (What about POP? What about all the Y! web platforms?)
After all, you've just told them the app uses plain text, then you tell them to use the app to change the password. :)
That said, the friends and relatives probably use machines running key loggers anyway.
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o_O I guess he meant to change the password using the web interface
... must have been written by someone called Napoleon!
Google vs Yahoo. Evil ... or stupid?
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I have never liked the concept of free E-mail. Like Robert Heinlein said, TANSTAAFL.
This is why I recommend people use paid ISPs for their real E-mail accounts, and perhaps use Yahoo, Google, or Rocketmail for registering on spammy websites where they want an E-mail address so they can make their advertisers happy.
I will sound like a MS shill here, but this something I like about MS Exchange. The POP3, IMAP, and OWA services can all be configured to be SSL/TLS only. I know that with an Exchange hosted provider, I will get a certain service level of a known, certifed, and secure mail server, and most Exchange providers also offer a high uptime in their SLA.
To boot, a dedicated ISP's bread and butter is ensuring the security of their customer's E-mail, so they tend to be far more proactive in general in ensuring that mail stays put.
time to switch to Linux, go back to the web interface, and change passwords?
Well, desktop Linux has to come one way or another. Haven't you guys heard of guerilla tactics?
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According to a post by a Zimbra employee over at their forums. This will be corrected in the next version of Zimbra Desktop.
I don't have to worry because I didn't used my yahoo mailbox for any official purposes.
ah I shouldn't joke on that.
Don't use Yahoo.
Don't use AOL.
Don't use Microsoft, for God's sakes, or you'll never get your back emails out of it if you decide to move to another service.
Don't even use Gmail (except as a spam trap or for signing up to Web sites, like I do.)
Don't use crap in general.
Get a REAL email account - from your ISP or from your Web hosting provider - that you control, that has security, that is accessible by Web or email client. Then get a decent email client like Thunderbird. It's not rocket science.
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One more reason not to use Yahoo for certain sensitive needs.
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http://research.zscaler.com/2008/09/trusting-cloud.html When leveraging cloud based apps, in this case webmail, security is vital not only in the cloud but during transmission to the cloud. While this is often the responsibility of the enterprise itself, here is a situation where Yahoo! was responsible for all components (client and server) and still didn't get it right. Cloud computing will not succeed unless enterprises are able to trust those making online services available to them. Situations such as this, where security was clearly an afterthought, do not help to build the trust required for cloud computing to succeed.