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Feds Unwrap $15M For Corporate Energy Reduction
As hard as it is to imagine, coondoggie writes with news that the federal government just unveiled a new energy bill that will offer $15 million in assistance to retailers who help to build and adopt energy-efficient technologies. "The US Department of Energy (DOE) announced the first phase of $15 million awards to retailers Best Buy, JCPenney, John Deere, Macy's, SuperValu, Target, Toyota, and Whole Foods Market. Commercial Real Estate Firms such as CB Richard Ellis, Forest City Enterprises as well as the financials groups also saw some of the money. Along with the money the companies will have access to the DOE's Pacific Northwest National Laboratory (PNNL) and National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL) to design, build, tune and operate at least one new prototype building and to retrofit an existing building project."
Imagine if they received $699 billion more.
...should harness the smug of their customers.
Well we reserve that kind of money for folks who fail upwards..
"Ahh! Arrogance and stupidity in the same package, how efficient of you!" --Londo Molari
WHY do we need incentives to do the "right" thing?
Why are we beholden to evil, unless someone pays us to not be?
{sarcasm} I guess I'm just too stupid or naive to understand {/sarcasm}
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
Cos I thought they only talked in billions and trillions. Y'know 700 billion here, a trillion there.
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Meanwhile, Congress is going to keep trying to give $700B to the financial sector.
That coondoggie writes?
Or that Feds have some more industrial welfare?
$15 Million given to corporate America means less money for lazy niggers.
Fifteen million dollars is trivial.
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As hard as it is to imagine, coondoggie writes with news that the federal government just unveiled a new energy bill that will offer $15 million in assistance to retailers who help to build and adopt energy-efficient technologies.
That is hard to imagine. coondoggie writes with news?!? Who writes anything anymore? Why couldn't he type it?
The simple solution is to let the sun in. 1) Install more sky lights. 2) install sensors to dim lights as needed
Next solar HOT water systems for heating/cooling of their buildings.
This is 30 year old technology with a 6-8 year payback.
Where is my check?
Start billing employees for leaving their computers on overnight when there is no business reason. It's one thing to leave it in sleep mode, but where I've worked, a lot of workstations are left turned on overnight, eating up a decent bit of electricity.
After the first offense, I would start docking one or two dollars per offense from the next pay check. Hit them in their pocket, and employees will stop leaving their computers on when they don't need to be on.
No no of course not!
The country needs saving, not smart-ass comments! Ass wipe...
Here we are, with the country in deep financial crisis, with $700 billion on the line, and the DOE is looking to give away money to try to build the market for energy efficiency????
I say we forget about this "free money" grant and find a way to prop up Wall Street firms with $700,015,000,000.
After all, $15 million is a decent yacht for someone who'd otherwise go without.
And tell me, would you rather have new light bulbs or a $15 million yacht?
Case closed.
and the criminals-in-congress are preparing their exit to Paraguay.
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I am so disgusted right now. I'm here in Georgia, with he gas cutoff, and I'm just aghast.
I have nothing else to say other than this is the prelude to ten (?) years from now for the whole country.
We're dead in the water here.
Reducing energy usage is a waste of time and money for almost anyone. It represents a reduction in the value and quality of human life for the benefit of "The Earth".
These companies could be producing good and services for their customers or profits for their shareholders. That's what they were created to do -- not wasting their employees' time to try to save energy. Why should they want to spend $100 in employee time to save $50 worth of energy? To go to environmentalist heaven?
Let's see, I think those companies lost that much in their shareholder value in probably 1.2 seconds of trading today. Geez, maybe if the Feds invested 700 billion into energy production and effeciency, it would do more for the markets than just pouring it into banks.
This is my sig.
Good job, Congress! Thanks to your failure to save the economy, energy use will decline.
Bankrupt companies don't have to worry about turning on their lights ever again.
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I'd like to congratulate you, americans, for putting your country away from a path that would lead to the 3rd world and demonstrating that there is still some democracy in there.
Well done!!!
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"The government isn't going to bail me out"
Stimulus check. Twice!
WHY do we need incentives to do the "right" thing?
Why are we beholden to evil, unless someone pays us to not be?
{sarcasm} I guess I'm just too stupid or naive to understand {/sarcasm}
By "we" you're obviously including all the American people. Otherwise why would there be "energy credits" come tax time and "rebates" from energy companies to their customers. We ALL are willing to do what's right without incentives. Right?
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Sounds to me like some are making the argument for thin clients and centralized servers. Throw in virtualization and you have your energy savings right there.
Shai Schticks:"You don't make peace with friends, you make peace with enemies"
Your PC is 200-300 watts (another 150-250 if your monitor is a CRT), but your laser printer is 2,000 watts.
If my laserprinter was 2kW, I wouldn't have to heat my home.
I think your number is a bit high. Wikianswers says a laser printer uses 400 to 750 watts. (and, of course, we know that any website with the name "Wiki" in it has to be accurate, right?)
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The problem I see it isn't that the $700 bill is going to bail out corporate execs, the problem is if they DON'T give that money to companies, shareholders are going to be wiped out.
And I'm not talking about Wall Street speculators, I'm talking about virtually every salaried adult in the US with a 401K or other similar retirement plan.
For instance, my dad is 59, his 401K has lost like 25% value recently. That's fucking ridiculous. 25% of the money he's saved for retirement over his ENTIRE CAREER. GONE because some fucks on Capital Hill are teasing Wall Street and then pulling it all away.
"Remember if it's not broke don't fix it. $19K a year may be a lot to you or me, but that's chick feed at the corporate level. "
Fortune 500 maybe. But the majority are small companies and $19K would be sorely missed.
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With two exceptions, everyone who voted *for* the bill was not in a hotly contested reelection race. Everyone who voted *against* it was.
This is not democracy in action, it's just people looking out for their own interests.
It saddens me to think that this bill didn't pass or fail on its merits, but was the result of short-term thinking by people who want to benefit themselves and friends, but can't do it at this exact point in time.
If the bill had come up a month from now, it would have passed.
A bunch of that money could be recycled back into reelection campaigns and not be noticed. $100 million would buy a lot of congresscritters, and it's less than 1/10 of 1 percent of the total.
All the shuttered businesses and foreclosed homes which are resulting from the financial mess should reduce energy consumption considerably. Remember, if you're the last one out, DO turn off the lights.
This is relatively simple - pass the bailout and get the nervous nellies back on a solid ground. Take over assets where necessary, and resell them later.
Now to the executives with golden parachutes. We know exactly what these instruments are which have cased the meltdown and we know the industry which has gotten the multi-billion dollar incomes off of the mess. Add an income tax which is 95% of all income over 250k, and make it retroactive for the last 3 years. The money is coming from the treasury, so to get it back via the tax code puts the money back in the system.
I'm personally no proponent of tax code social engineering, but this looks a lot more like payback than taxes.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
Help me out here. I took a quick look around the net for a bit more information on this article and came up dry. A quick search on google news and the DOE's site didn't turn up any reference to this article's content. However, there is a recent announcement regarding $17.9M for PV tech. companies. Am I missing something, or is Network World just a step ahead of everybody else?
"Making a grocery store more energy conscious is a great idea."
Yes it is.
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Want to save energy? Put energy-inefficient box stores like Bush Buy, er, Best Buy, out of existence.
If you cap rates, banks won't want to make large loans or make them as often.