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IOC Trademarks Part of Canadian National Anthem

gravis777 sends us to BoingBoing for news that the International Olympic Committee has trademarked a line from the Canadian National Anthem and is threatening to sue anyone who uses it. The line in question is "with glowing hearts." "The committee is so serious about protecting the Olympic brand it managed to get a landmark piece of legislation passed in the House of Commons last year that made using certain phrases related to the Games a violation of law. The list includes the number 2010 and the word 'winter,' phrases that normally couldn't be trademarked because they are so general."

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  1. That's ok by khendron · · Score: 5, Funny

    Most of us Canadians don't know the words anyway.

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    1. Re:That's ok by philspear · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hey, the article was tagged "YOUR rights online," talking to ME. I'm not canadian, it's not affecting MY rights. WHAT'S THE DEAL!?!?

    2. Re:That's ok by TheLoneDanger · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, most of us know it in two languages. They just told you that to make you feel better, which was very kind of them.

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    3. Re:That's ok by just_another_sean · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hey, the article was tagged "YOUR rights online," talking to ME. I'm not canadian, it's not affecting MY rights. WHAT'S THE DEAL!?!?

      Here, try this as an expermient then. Grab a domain, WINTERGLOWINGHEARTS.COM will do and start selling snowglobes with the words Vancouver - Winter 2010 on them.

      If no one hassles you then, yes, you're right; it has nothing to do with you. Please return to your regularly scheduled programming.

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    4. Re:That's ok by erroneus · · Score: 3, Funny

      Canada has a national anthem? I thought they were still applying for statehood in the U.S.

    5. Re:That's ok by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Geeze I'm from Texas and I know the Canadian Anthem, it's the theme to Hockey Night in Canada, right?

    6. Re:That's ok by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      I thought they were still applying for statehood in the U.S.

      No, we have given up on that idea as the US is history.

      On Oct 17 we start formal negotiations to join the EU.

    7. Re:That's ok by Grimbleton · · Score: 5, Insightful

      One nation indivisible. One nation, under god, indivisible.

      Yeah. About that.

    8. Re:That's ok by tomhudson · · Score: 2, Funny

      Most of us Canadians don't know the words anyway.

      You can't use them now anyway ... at least not in the "not-spring-not-summer-not-fall" season, or in "that-time-between-2009-and-2011".

      frak the greedy SOBs

    9. Re:That's ok by Alsee · · Score: 3, Funny

      Geeze I'm from Texas and I know the Canadian Anthem

      They should join the US.

      Ummm, and the Canadians too, if they want.

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    10. Re:That's ok by en.ABCD · · Score: 3, Informative
      It was actually in the Articles of Confederation (Article XI):

      Canada acceding to this confederation, and adjoining in the measures of the United States, shall be admitted into, and entitled to all the advantages of this Union; but no other colony shall be admitted into the same, unless such admission be agreed to by nine States.

      However, the Articles of Confederation are no longer the law of the land, as they were replaced by the Constitution.

    11. Re:That's ok by innerweb · · Score: 4, Informative

      Oh, come on! You expect many people to know (let alone believe) that the original did not have the words under god in it? And that it was written by a baptist minister)? You expect too much from the average person! But, they ought to know it anyway. ;-)

      InnerWeb

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    12. Re:That's ok by Ihmhi · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh yeah, you should see their lightsaber chainsaws and Sith beavers.

    13. Re:That's ok by jonadab · · Score: 2, Interesting

      > I DO believe that the resentment is misplaced, as it's merely "jokers"

      Actually, at one time there were people in the US who seriously considered annexing Canada, possibly even by force if necessary. However, that was a while ago. Benedict Arnold was involved with it, and as you may know he later betrayed us in a treasonous fashion and became perhaps the most infamous name in US history, a name still used as a synonym for traitor. I don't think anyone has taken the notion seriously since his day.

      On the other hand, it's also true that while most people from the US think of Canada as "another country", a lot of us don't really think of Canada when we think of a *foreign* country. For instance, a conversation like this is not unusual:

      Alice: Have you ever been to a foreign country?
      Bob: Yeah, actually I have.
      Alice: Really? Where?
      Bob: My dad and I went up to Ontario on a fishing trip three years ago...
      Alice: That's just Canada. That doesn't count!

      I think a combination of several factors is at work here.

      In the first place, Canada isn't overseas. Everyone knows foreign countries are overseas. (Mexico is foreign despite this, but Mexico is fairly third-world and also fails the other criteria below.)

      In the second place, the cultural differences are, in a word, minor. (The biggest one I can think of off the top of my head is that Canadians are comfortable paying absolutely insane amounts of sales tax. Granted, people here have trouble *identifying* with that, but on the other hand it doesn't make you seem incomprehensibly alien, just... complacent. Oh, and your paper money looks weird, but this is becoming less and less of a big deal every time the US Treasury experiments more and more with stranger and stranger designs on our own money. First the enormous portraits, and did you know they're using colors besides green now? What do they think we are, the Republic of Milton Bradley? You get used to that, and Canadian money hardly even seems weird any more.)

      Third, most Canadians speak English, with barely even an accent. Discounting the word "eh" and a few Commonwealth-style spellings, you practically speak *American* English. This by itself probably wouldn't by a very big deal, but in combination with the other factors it all starts to add up.

      Also, you don't need a passport to go to Canada. You need one (and probably a visa as well) to go to any other country, including Mexico, but you can go to Canada for the weekend and just show your driver's license or birth certificate or something when you cross the border, no big deal.

      Finally, there's no significant international tension between the US and Canada. Strong evidence of this is the fact that Canada would easily be capable of creating nuclear weapons but pointedly does not do so, even though (and perhaps partly because) we have them. When there's tension across the border, you see the opposite pattern. When the USSR got the atom bomb, China wanted it; when China got it, India needed it, and when India got it, Pakistan felt they needed it. But you never saw Canada going, "Oh, no, the US has this terrible weapon, what are we going to do? We have to have it too, so they can't use it on us!" But between the US and Canada there's no real tension, so the Canadian government has never been afraid that we're going to nuke them. (Indeed, using a nuke that close to US soil is absolutely unthinkable for us, even if it wouldn't start WWIII, which it might do.)

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    14. Re:That's ok by Curtman · · Score: 2, Informative

      But you never saw Canada going, "Oh, no, the US has this terrible weapon, what are we going to do?

      Why would we do that? The U.S. gave us a whole bunch to point at the Russians.

    15. Re:That's ok by Curtman · · Score: 4, Informative
      Also try googling "Manifest Destiny". You'll find this at Wikipedia:

      Before 1815
      During the American Revolution and the early years of independence there were both peaceful and violent attempts to include Canada in the United States. The Revolutionaries hoped French Canadians would join the Thirteen Colonies in the effort to throw off the rule of the British Empire. Canada was invited to send representatives to the Continental Congress, and was pre-approved for joining the United States in the Articles of Confederation. In the Paris peace negotiations, Benjamin Franklin attempted to persuade Britain to cede Canada to the United States. Canada was invaded during the War of Independence, and again during the War of 1812. None of these measures proved successful in bringing Canada onto the side of the Thirteen Colonies.

    16. Re:That's ok by Tickety-boo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Deal, but if we take Quebec, you have to take Detroit.

      I think that is only fair.

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    17. Re:That's ok by tbannist · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, it's not so much that the people at the CBC are dumb, as they are on a budget and the people who own the rights to the Hockey Night in Canada theme song think they deserve a lot more money than the CBC is prepared to pay for a renewal of the license for the song.

      The people who used to be in charge of the CBC may or may not be dumb for not having bought perpetual rights to the song.

      Of course, if we had sane copyright laws, that wouldn't be an issue, because the song is old enough that the copyright should have expired by now.

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    18. Re:That's ok by Azar · · Score: 4, Funny

      For crying out loud, we took Celine Dion off your hands for FOUR YEARS. Now you're just asking too much.

    19. Re:That's ok by multisync · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, it's not so much that the people at the CBC are dumb, as they are on a budget and the people who own the rights to the Hockey Night in Canada theme song think they deserve a lot more money than the CBC is prepared to pay for a renewal of the license for the song.

      The CBC wanted to own the theme outright, but made a low-ball offer. Dolores Claman and her publisher offered to instead extend the existing deal, which gave them roughly $500 per three-hour broadcast. The CBC responded by announcing the contest to find a new theme and broke off negotiations.

      I think they honestly (arrogantly) believed the rights holders would cave in. They also had their panties in a bunch because of the ongoing suit by Claman alleging the CBC used the song without permission (read without paying for it) on other programs, as well as rebroadcasts of HNIC in other countries.

      When they later publicly offered to resume negotiations - to "save the theme for Canadians" - Claman responded by announcing the deal with CTV.

      The CBC is welcome to use whatever negotiation tactics they choose. I'm a supporter of public television in general, and specifically the CBC (especially for their news and - yup - hockey broadcasts). But over the years the have shown a spectacular lack of understanding of what attracts viewers to HNIC. They employed similar "hardball" tactics when negotiating Don Cherry's contract last year.

      Again, they are welcome to do so, but Don Cherry and the traditional theme were two big attractions for a lot of their viewers. Now they've lost one of those, and if they continue to step on the throat of the "golden goose," they're going to find themselves on the outside looking in. Without the revenue generated by hockey (especially playoff hockey) it's unlikely they would be able to maintain the high standards in their news department.

      And that's a damn shame. The CBC belongs to the public. They are showing bad stewardship of a Canadian institution. But that's another rant.

      Of course, if we had sane copyright laws, that wouldn't be an issue, because the song is old enough that the copyright should have expired by now.

      I agree with you in principle about the length of copyright terms, but the CBC benefits from the current copyright laws just as much as Claman is, so I can't really condemn her for seeking fair market value when negotiating a deal.

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  2. O Canada! by KillerBob · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hmm... not too keen on them trying to copyright my national anthem... but the copyright on the use of the word "winter", I like. We get too much snow as it is. Mother nature fears a lawsuit...

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    1. Re:O Canada! by Fnordulicious · · Score: 2, Funny

      The Queen of Canada is just as Canadian as Stephen Harper, although she talks kinda strange for a Canadian.

    2. Re:O Canada! by Aardpig · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, the Queen of Canada is Canadian. The Queen of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is British. The Queen of Australia is Australian. Legally, they are three completely separate entities; they just happen to inhabit the same hot body (M'am).

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    3. Re:O Canada! by ozbird · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's HRHILF Queen Elizabeth II, to you!

      Her Majesty The Queen.

  3. Ok so... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "The IOC are a bunch of fascists - with glowing hearts"

    How was that? Sue me.

    1. Re:Ok so... by dgatwood · · Score: 2, Funny

      Always fear those with glowing hearts. They might still be radioactive.

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    2. Re:Ok so... by calidoscope · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm due for another Cardiolyte imaging in February, so may have a glowing heart when the games are on.

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  4. Coming by Rinisari · · Score: 4, Funny

    Coming Winter 2010.....

    SNOW!

  5. Public domain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hereby claim invention of the phrase 'fuck litigious international committees', and release this phrase into the public domain.

    1. Re:Public domain by DrLang21 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Does anyone even care about the Olympics anymore? After crap like this, and all of the crap they let China get away with breaking their rules, I don't want the Olympics anywhere near the US. They have come to represent poor integrity and greed to a degree worse than the investment banks that are now putting our economy in the crapper. Somehow I don't feel that they still represent good sportsmanship.

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  6. What I have to say... by Secret+Rabbit · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... is that this Canadian and a lot of people that I know will, with glowing hearts, ignore this piece of nonsense on the basis of prior art.

    p.s. With the Conservatives in power when this was done, and the fact that they are more than likely to get back in, does anyone think that this will change?

    1. Re:What I have to say... by dubbreak · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Trademark has nothing to do with prior art. That's patents. They aren't attempting to patent the words. It has to do with rights for a certain use of the words. So in this instance the use of "with glowing hearts" in relation to the olympics. If you use the words in other ways commercially that don't attempt to tie into the olympics in any way shape or form, then you are in the safe (the measure is whether you are diluting the brand of the IOC by using the trademarked phrase).

      While I don't agree with this TM being granted, I don't really think it limits anyone. Sure Bell can't use the Canadian anthem in a special olympic cell phone deal for the upcoming olympics, but it won't (or shouldn't) affect canadian citizens in general. It does prevent people who attempt to jump on the olympic money wagon for free without paying the IOC fee and possibly goes overboard to affect innocent advertisers that are overly patriotic (pretty rare in Canada compared to the US).

      It overly favours the IOC, but the gov't has a lot to gain from that.

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    2. Re:What I have to say... by illegalcortex · · Score: 4, Informative

      Considering they passed a special law, prior art really has nothing to do with it. In the US, the Olympics long ago go a heinous law passed that gave them trademark rights on things you couldn't normally trademark. They didn't go so far as the anthem, but you cannot legally put the name "Olympic" in your business. Who cares of the thousands of years of prior art. This came to my attention when they recently forced the band named the Olympic Hopefuls to change. And it was, unfortunately, all very legal of them to do so.

      Here's the law:
      http://www.inta.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=187&Itemid=59&getcontent=1

      Here's a story on the band:
      http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1507047/20050805/index.jhtml

    3. Re:What I have to say... by gstoddart · · Score: 2, Interesting

      ... is that this Canadian and a lot of people that I know will, with glowing hearts, ignore this piece of nonsense on the basis of prior art.

      Another poster has already pointed out that prior art doesn't apply, but I'll provide a sample nonetheless here. ;-)

      p.s. With the Conservatives in power when this was done, and the fact that they are more than likely to get back in, does anyone think that this will change?

      I move we make these mice honorary Canadian citizens. They might be better than the weasels we have in Parliament.

      Cheers

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    4. Re:What I have to say... by ubernostrum · · Score: 3, Informative

      So in this instance the use of "with glowing hearts" in relation to the olympics.

      Not quite. The IOC is not happy with merely controlling use of what they perceive to be their trademarks in relation to the Olympics; they actually seek to control any use, for any reason. For example, the role-playing/card game(s) "Legend of the Five Rings", which takes its name from a Japanese book on dueling published long before the IOC ever existed, was forced to change its visual-identity branding -- even though it had not one single thing to do with the Olympics -- because that branding included five interlocked circles, something over which the IOC claims control in any form and in any context.

    5. Re:What I have to say... by illegalcortex · · Score: 2

      Yes, RLY.

      Olympic Paint and Stain falls under the pre-existing business category, as they were founded in 1938, before the 1950 law.

      (2) A person who actually used, or whose assignor actually used, the words or any combination of the words described in subsection (a)(4) of this section, or a trademark, trade name, sign, symbol, or insignia described in subsection (c)(4) of this section, for any lawful purpose before September 21, 1950, is not prohibited by this section from continuing the lawful use for the same purpose and for the same goods or services.

      There are a couple of other exceptions (if you're actually referring to a mountain range named Olympic before 1998 or if you only market "in the State of Washington west of the Cascade Mountain range and operations, sales, and marketing outside of this area are not substantial"). But yes, in general you cannot start a business and put the name Olympic in it unless you fall into those strict exceptions.

  7. 2010 with glowing hearts by Majik+Sheff · · Score: 5, Funny

    Please will the insanity stop?

    2010 2010 2010

    They can kiss my ass with glowing hearts.

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    1. Re:2010 with glowing hearts by perlchild · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It will stop when passing legislation this stupid can land them in jail, and not a second before.
      I sure hope the estate of Callixa Lavalee(author of the anthem) is listening, and has contacted their lawyers...

  8. Excuse me but... by GlobalColding · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is it 2010 base 10, or 2010 base 8? 'Cause that still leaves a lot of wiggle room.

    1. Re:Excuse me but... by eeyore · · Score: 2, Funny
      You could have 0x7DA printed on your geeky and extremely unofficial Olympic T-shirt.

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  9. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh no!

    2010 winter
    with glowing hearts afire
    I mock Olympics

  10. Hey IOC... by actionbastard · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Take off, eh.
    Hosers!

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  11. this is retarded by theheadlessrabbit · · Score: 4, Funny

    so how will counting work with this new trademark in place?

    2008
    2009 ...
    profit!

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    1. Re:this is retarded by Yvan256 · · Score: 2, Funny

      The Americans went ahead and changed the range of dates for the daytime savings.

      We're doing one better by skipping 2010 completely.

  12. What about the French Version? by kaufmanmoore · · Score: 5, Funny

    How dare they not consider the French Version on the same level as the English version. This is an insult to Quebec. Its time for revolution! Viva Quebec!

    1. Re:What about the French Version? by couchslug · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Its time for revolution! Viva Quebec!"

      French identity must be preserved!
      Break out the white banners of victory, and greet the enemy legs akimbo!

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    2. Re:What about the French Version? by Petrushka · · Score: 4, Informative

      "Its time for revolution! Viva Quebec!"

      "Car ton bras sait porter l'épée", indeed. (But it might be wise to learn to say that in French ... "Vive le Québec", not "viva".)

    3. Re:What about the French Version? by gstoddart · · Score: 2, Informative

      "Car ton bras sait porter l'épée", indeed. (But it might be wise to learn to say that in French ... "Vive le Québec", not "viva".)

      And, I believe it's "Vive la Quebec". (Dropping the accent because Slashcode borks unicode apparently)

      Cheers

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    4. Re:What about the French Version? by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 2, Informative

      No it doesn't: Vive le Québec libre!

  13. Sydney Olympic Games by myowntrueself · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Reminds me of when they found that they could not use the phrase "Sydney Olympic Games" because Mr Syd Games -- Mr Sydney *Olympic* Games -- had registered it as his trademark.

    Boy was John Clarke pissed about that.

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    1. Re:Sydney Olympic Games by myowntrueself · · Score: 2, Informative

      sigh

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Games_(Australian_TV_series)

      One of the best comedies to come out of Australia ever. Even better than Shark Bay.

      John Clarke, easily one of the great 'straight men' of all time:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Clarke_(satirist)

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  14. Beat them ... by ProfM · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Quick ... need to trademark all even numbers between 2012 and 2100.

  15. Sung to the lyrics of O Canada by andreyvul · · Score: 5, Funny

    I O C
    Shut the fu-u-uck up!
    Go fuck yourselves
    You greedy heartless fucks.
    With glowing hearts,
    We will block your channels
    Say goodbye to your ratings!
    Fu-u-u-uck you,
    I O C_______,
    You're the Sciento-lo-gy!
    Of organized
    Spo-o-o-orts
    Shove Winter up your ass 2010 times.
    Shove the medals up your ass and go-o broke.

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  16. Only in America..... by aingleby · · Score: 5, Funny

    .. oh wait ....

    1. Re:Only in America..... by joneil · · Score: 2, Funny

      ...actually, yes in America, indirectly. The man who wrote "Oh Canada" first served as a Lieutenant in the Northern Army during the Civil War, a Rhode Island regiment. Perhaps the line "we stand on guard for thee" was somehow inspired or influenced by his military service in the USA. In which case, maybe the US government can claim "prior art" to part of the anthem, and in turn sue the IOC. Just stick the RIAA on the case and see what happens. :)

  17. Is the IOC really so powerful.. by hedgemage · · Score: 5, Interesting

    that they are able to subvert the host country's laws so effectively? I know that they have muscled around 'smaller' countries, but I would think that Canada wouldn't be so easily swayed. What am I missing that makes the IOC so powerful? Is it simply the 'investment opportunity' and business that the Olympics bring? Is national pride so easily wounded that we have to kowtow to their every whim? Its no secret that the IOC is incredibly corrupt and profit driven... how come modern democratic states aren't telling them to fuck off and clean up their act? Instead the US, Britain, Canada, etc. seem to be bowing and scraping to meet their every demand.

    1. Re:Is the IOC really so powerful.. by illegalcortex · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes. Money. Yes. Irrelevant. Apathy.

    2. Re:Is the IOC really so powerful.. by jimicus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      that they are able to subvert the host country's laws so effectively? I know that they have muscled around 'smaller' countries, but I would think that Canada wouldn't be so easily swayed.
      What am I missing that makes the IOC so powerful? Is it simply the 'investment opportunity' and business that the Olympics bring? Is national pride so easily wounded that we have to kowtow to their every whim? Its no secret that the IOC is incredibly corrupt and profit driven... how come modern democratic states aren't telling them to fuck off and clean up their act? Instead the US, Britain, Canada, etc. seem to be bowing and scraping to meet their every demand.

      They've been getting special laws passed in the UK too.

      Remember this isn't just one group of people with a lot of money. It's one group of people with a lot of money who will also make a lot of money for a lot of other people - for instance, when Coke sponsors the games, you won't be able to buy Pepsi in the olympic village. Money talks, and when there's a lot of money it not only talks, it gets up in Parliament, makes speeches and proposes laws.

  18. Very funny by thewils · · Score: 2, Informative

    I thought about registering withglowinghearts.com but someone beat me to it :)

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    1. Re:Very funny by dschl · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And withglowinghearts.ca is also taken. Looks like a site for a book about paralympic athletes. Wonder when (not if) the sick heartless [expletive deleted] at IOC will try and yank the domain.

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  19. Prior art. by AJWM · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The estate of Sir Arthur Clarke and MGM might have a thing or two to say about attempting to claim 2010.

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  20. Olympics about openness and freedom... by Brain+Damaged+Bogan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    can anyone remember when this was true? Certainly not in my lifetime... the IOC seems to be run by bigger arse hats than the RIAA... at least the RIAA haven't started trademarking phrases in lyrics... yet.

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  21. To the IOC by SageLikeFool · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dear IOC,

    FUCK YOU.

    With glowing hearts,
    Canadian Citizens

  22. Is Kevin McBride available? by HermDog · · Score: 2, Funny

    We can commission him to sue Canada for infringing our dumb law patent. All we have to do is demand $700 billion, and our little banking problem is all cleared up!

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  23. Time to bury our heads... by mnslinky · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I really think it's time to just bury our heads in the sand. This world has become fucking crazy. What happened to common sense? What happened to old-fashioned business? Why can't we trust a smile and a handshake anymore?

    I know this sounds a little pie-in-the-sky, but it's how I feel. I run a business. I'm honest. I make enough money for me, my business partner, and our employees. As honestly as I can. Sure, cheap, slimy people sometimes snake a customer away, but the ones to come to us are loyal. Almost crazy loyal. This world is truly getting sad.

  24. Actually... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    An article I read about this last week said that the IOC would only seek to prevent people from using it in Olympic-esque aspects. You could still use the phrase for a knitting store (which there is, apparently, somewhere in Ontario), but there would be a problem if that store tried to sell sweaters with the Olympic rings on it, for example.

    I don't agree that it's right, but that summary up there's a little wrong.

  25. I stopped paying attention by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Clearly the Olympics isn't about games anymore, that's why I stopped paying attention. I hear more about the crap surrounding it than the games itself. It's not fun anymore.

  26. On related news... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 5, Funny
    Steven Spielberg has announced a sequel to ET (The Extra-Terrestrial) for release in February 2010.

    Tagline:

    He is afraid. He is totally alone. He is 3 million light years from home. The IOC is after him...

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  27. Olympics = Stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Olympics are for sell outs and commercialization. It baffles me why people still put such high value on this parade of stupidity. I almost feel sorry for the athletes that participate.

    It's become such a joke.

  28. Winter by tompaulco · · Score: 2, Funny

    Winter, winter, winter, winter, winter, 2010, winter, 2010, 2010, winter, Chicago, 2010, winter.

    With glowing hearts,
    Me.


    P.S. IOC, I would be happy to translate this for you in case you can;t figure out my point.

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  29. Re:Typical by ozphx · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I smell a new meme with glowing hearts!

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  30. Dealing with the IOC by Dzimas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The most appropriate response to the IOC's increasing reach and commercialism is to make an effort to tune out the Olympics (TM). There are a great many amateur meets that happen throughout the world on a regular basis, and they're always in need of volunteers and spectators. If you can't do without a regular fix of Olympic (TM) patriotism, steer clear of the Olympic-branded (TM) merchandise and take a few minutes out of your life to let major sponsors of The Games( TM) know that you're avoiding their products because of the way the IOC has corrupted amateur sport (TM).

    This is one instance where money really talks. A sharp downturn in funding and public opinion would work wonders.

    I'm Canadian, so I'm going to take 10 minutes following the upcoming federal election to write a letter to my member of parliament complaining about the IOC's misappropriation of lines from our national anthem. The work is in the public domain, and it is quite obvious that the organizers of the Vancouver games are attempting to exploit its patriotic meaning for inappropriate commercial gain.

  31. Ahhh Canada! by ConanG · · Score: 2, Funny

    The Maple Leaf State

  32. Glowing hearts? by eagl · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Does that mean that Spielberg is gonna get sued for E.T.? What if I watch E.T. in winter 2010... Will they have to re-release an edited version with glowing heart censored out?

    Anyone else wondering if the IOC has strayed so far from the original spirit and intent of the Olympics and become such business-focused greedy rat bastards, that we need to give them the big finger and start over with a governing body that is actually focused on the athletes and the games rather than the money?

  33. Stupid Canadians by oobdeoo · · Score: 2, Funny

    .....Would expect no less from a simple country - what with their socialized medicine, clean cities, low crime rate and tough gun-control laws. Any money-hungry conglomerate should be able to get whatever they want out of those backwards hosers.

  34. Myself... by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ... and like minded folks, look forward to the Winter of 2010, with glowing hearts, to ignore another two weeks of bad network TV.

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  35. Re:Mod parent troll by carlzum · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Americans are generalized far too much. People from Seattle and Vancouver are more similar than Seattle and Houston. Talk to people from North Dakota and the Canadian border. You can't say ND residents are more like New Yorkers or Southerns than Canadians. Quebec is an exception, the cities are like nothing else in North America.

  36. Re:Typical by Brickwall · · Score: 2, Informative

    Did you actually READ the bill? It's intent is to stop free-loaders from slapping "Olympic" and the like on products, and making money without contributing to the Games. All the trademarks expire at the end of 2010, so it's not like they have the rights forever. And, if you have a business like "Olympia Restaurant" and you were in business before March 2007, you can continue to use the "trademarked" term. Any business with a large public profile is fairly vigilant about protecting their name and brands; why should the IOC be any different?

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  37. Re:Typical by Brickwall · · Score: 2, Informative
    Yes, Canadian law does have trademark provisions. However, if you looked at the bill, you'd see that most of the words and phrases included would normally not be eligible for trademarks - like "Gold", "Silver", "Winter", etc. And, again if you'd read the bill, you'd see that the intent is to stop people from free-loading on the Olympic symbol.

    From the government of Canada's website re: Bill C-47

    Commentary

    Bill C-47 enhances the protection for Olympic symbols beyond that normally afforded to trade-marks. Although existing intellectual property law in Canada could arguably be used to protect Olympic symbols and marks, the sheer volume of possible violations, within a short window of time, are presumed to be the justification for the enhanced protection.

    There has been substantial debate about tactics used in connection with sporting events to discourage the use of ambush marketing. In the United Kingdom, a statute was recently passed that, among other things, will outlaw ambush marketing for the 2012 Olympics.(10) A coalition of advertisers argued that this legislation was draconian and overly restrictive. Citing one example, the legislation would not allow a business to say "come to London in 2012."(11) Advertisers in Britain viewed these restrictions as potentially damaging to the economic "halo effect" that the Olympics promises to bring, stating that "London businesses in particular will be paying for these Games but they are being deprived of benefiting from them because they will basically have to pretend they are not happening."(12)

    There are also accusations that prohibitions against ambush marketing can be carried too far. In one of the more bizarre examples of an attempt to prevent ambush marketing, more than 1,000 Dutch fans at the FIFA 2006 World Cup match in Germany were forced to relinquish their orange lederhosen during a game against the Ivory Coast. The lederhosen were stamped with the name "Bavaria," although Bavaria Brewery (Netherlands) was not an official World Cup sponsor. When Dutch fans tried to enter the stadium, they were required by FIFA officials to abandon their lederhosen, and were forced to watch the game in their underwear.(13) Before this incident, Heineken, an official sponsor of the Dutch football association, had taken legal action against Bavaria Brewery in Holland but lost; the Dutch judge had ruled that fans could wear whatever they wanted.

    As proposed, Bill C-47 appears to address some of these concerns. Although it clearly strengthens the ability of the COC, CPC, and Organizing Committee to seek injunctions against any marks presumed to be encroaching on the Olympic brand, it also imposes limits on the legal reach of these powers through the exceptions. Criticism, for example, is protected, as is the use of Olympic symbols in news coverage. Firms whose use of related symbols pre-dates the Games are similarly protected, as are wine and spirit makers who use any of the terms listed in schedules 1, 2, and 3 to describe the origins of their products. Similarly, the interim injunctions in which irreparable harm need not be proved, could be, under Bill C-47, made available only for a short window of time.

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  38. Oh oh by martin-boundary · · Score: 4, Funny
    You think that's funny? My TV has just turned itself on by itself, and now it's showing the words

    IOC: ALL THESE WORDS ARE YOURS EXCEPT 2010. ATTEMPT NO OLYMPICS THERE.

    This is going to end badly.

  39. So what did you expect? by Lars+T. · · Score: 3, Interesting

    After the IOC got sued because some idiots "bought" tickets for the Beijing Olympics online from "beijingticketing.com"? Yes, you heard right, the IOC got sued because a lawyer claims they didn't protect their trademark. http://www.gamesbids.com/eng/other_news/1216133744.html

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  40. One more time. IT'S NOT THE IOC!!! by swordgeek · · Score: 3, Informative

    Folks, quit lambasting the IOC. They didn't do this. VANOC did. Go after them if you want.

    Advice to a lynch mob: Get your facts straight before lighting the torches.

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