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Cell Chip Coming To the PC Via a PCI Express Card

arcticstoat writes with an excerpt from Custom PC: "After developing a brand new CPU architecture from the ground-up, you'd expect that Toshiba, Sony and IBM would have more uses for the Cell architecture than the PlayStation 3, and Toshiba has been quick to make use of the architecture's HD video transcoding abilities in its new Qosimo laptops. However, Leadtek is now taking Toshiba's efforts a step further by putting the chip onto a PCI-E card for desktop PCs. The WinFast PxVC1100 is based on Toshiba's SpursEngine SE1000 processor, which is a cut-down version of the Cell chip. The SpursEngine chip features four SPEs (synergistic processing elements) based on 128-bit RISC cores, along with H.264 and MPEG-2 codecs, but it doesn't contain its own CPU as the chip in the PS3 does. The chip is capable of encoding and decoding H.264, MPEG-2 and MPEG-4 video streams in hardware."

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  1. mythtv apps by pak9rabid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    this + mythtv = interesting possibilities

    1. Re:mythtv apps by batkiwi · · Score: 5, Informative

      Most modern CPUs cannot decode 1080p blu-rays in linux. The video card has nothing to do with it, as there is no support in any linux driver for GPU assisted decoding of anything apart from mpeg2, and even that is shoddy. ffmpeg works well with two threads on dual core, but quad cores isn't buying much right now.

      Low bitrate 1080p rips on the net are not the same quality nor difficulty.

      Yes, a dual/quad core super-fast intel setup can do it (and the mythtv list has a big thread right now about what it takes for full blu-ray rips) but right now those machines are expensive and loud.

      This card could be perfect for people making HTPCs who want a low power and QUIET computer to watch on their TV using myth/etc.

  2. Why bother? by HateBreeder · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This spurs engine sounds just like an extra GPU...

    Why not just go with CUDA or some other GP-GPU platform and avoid the hassle?

    I know nVidia and AMD/ATI are doing H.264 decoding in hardware using their GPUs... I'm sure you can get software for encoders too.

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    1. Re:Why bother? by stonecypher · · Score: 5, Informative

      CUDA is a matrix processor. This is a serial processor. CUDA isn't really applicable to general purpose tasks. This is. CUDA gets its power by running the same function over an array of inputs to generate an array of outputs.

      Different beasts.

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  3. Does it run ... ? by sergstesh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The mandatory "does it run Linux ?" boils down to "do they provide enough documentation to write drivers for it ?".

    I RTFA, but I didn't find an answer in it.

  4. 50/50. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The fate of this device hinges pretty much exclusively on the quality of its software and documentation. If all you get is some gaudy half-broken-and-all-ugly fixed purpose video encode decode app(in the fine tradition of graphics card shovelware, remember the bad old days when the card vendor was responsible for the driver?) then this thing is dead in the water. A few will sell to Netflix pirates looking to rip and encode 3 times as much video as they could ever watch, instead of just twice as much; but that'll be about it.

    If it has good general purpose support(I'd really prefer that this mean "good documentation" and properlinux support; but I suspect a proprietary sdk would do alright as well) then it could be a killer in certain lower end computing scenarios. Since the cell is produced in nontrivial bulk, and this thing is only about 1/2 the complexity of a full cell(does that mean that this card is "spursengine on the half-cell?) it should be cheap, cheap, cheap compared to FPGA boards or custom ASICs for such purposes as the cell architecture is useful.

    I hope the do the right thing, and get rewarded(and I hope so, surely somebody looking to sell computational hardware would see the virtues of making it as useful as possible for as many customers as possible?); but if they don't, I suspect that they'd be lucky to do as well as physX, and will probably do worse.

  5. Re:yo yo yo by neokushan · · Score: 5, Funny

    Lets say the PS3 retails for £300 (it's less than this, but what the hell, this is slashdot, we don't need to be accurate. Or impartial for that matter...let me start again) Lets say the shitty PS3 costs £300, which is far too bloody much, but once you take away the shitty Blu-Ray drive, the shitty Hard drive, shitty controller, shitty case, etc. the price for the shitty fully-fledged CELLs (7 of them, remember) can't be more than £100 and that's a safe overestimation, with added money for the Lube Sony will use to anally violate you with their shitty cocks. This chip has only 4 shitty cores of the shitty CELL and it's not even the full CELL, it's a shitter version of it so I'd say it's a safe bet that it SHOULD cost no more than £50-70, but since the company that makes it is so shitty, they'll probably triple that price. Cunts.

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  6. How is this new? by rockypg · · Score: 4, Informative

    Mercury had a PCI-e cell expansion card for over a year now.

    Unlike the leadtek one, the mercury version has the full version of the cell processor, with 8SPEs. Dont think it comes with any prebuilt codecs though.