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Irrelevant Scientific Research Honored

More than 1,000 people attended this year's Ig Nobel awards, a light-hearted alternative to the Nobel Prizes. Scientists who unlocked the inner secrets of dog fleas, crisps and tangled string swept the show. Handing out awards was William Lipscomb, the 1976 Nobel laureate for chemistry, also doubling Thursday, at the age of 89, as the hero in the "Win-a-Date-With-a-Nobel-Laureate Contest." The prize itself is a plaque that reads, "This Ig Nobel Prize is awarded in the year 2008 to an Ig Nobel Prize Winner, in recognition of the Ig Nobel Prize Winners' Ig Nobel Prize winning achievement." At last I can submit my paper, "Everything is Really Wet, Even Dry Stuff." for peer review.

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  1. I know it's all in fun... by MozeeToby · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I know it's all in fun but seriously, just because research is funny doesn't mean it isn't meaningful. One paper was in knot theory, which is apparently a pretty large and under-researched area of mathmatics. Another was convincing people that their potato chips were fresh by playing crunching noises while they were being eaten, which I imagine provides insights into how what we taste is influenced by our other senses.

    Don't forget, the point of the Ig Nobel Awards is to 'Make you laugh, then make you think'.

    1. Re:I know it's all in fun... by IceCreamGuy · · Score: 2

      I don't know what it is, and maybe this is a little too personal, but I freaking love the sound of potato chips being crunched. Even better is the sound that really thin sheets of ice make when you step on them slowly in the winter.

    2. Re:I know it's all in fun... by prlucas · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Ahh the ice sound - that and of walking in snow of the perfect consistency.

      Though with the snow, for me, the feeling and sound and smell at the same time of a nice layer of snow I think contributes to for some reason liking the overall sensation.

    3. Re:I know it's all in fun... by Phrogman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well all research ought to be potentially good. You never know when something important may arise from seemingly unimportant research, provided its conducted properly. A seemingly unimportant fact that emerges from this research may prove to be important when applied to someone else's research down the road.

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    4. Re:I know it's all in fun... by yali · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Absolutely. The summary and linked article get it wrong. The Ig Nobel prizes are not about "irrelevant" research:

      The Ig Nobel Prizes honor achievements that first make people laugh, and then make them think. The prizes are intended to celebrate the unusual, honor the imaginative -- and spur people's interest in science, medicine, and technology.
      From the Ig Nobel Website

      A lot of scientific research seems pointless or silly to people who don't know what it's really about or why it was done. Hence the regular "still no cure for cancer" and "I can't believe my tax dollars fund this" comments. The Ig Nobel prizes acknowledge that science can sometimes seem funny on the surface, but they definitely do not concede that it is irrelevant.

    5. Re:I know it's all in fun... by R2.0 · · Score: 2, Funny

      "I'm from Baton Rouge. It's snowed there ONCE and stuck in the last 25 years."

      So snowballs DID have a chance in Hell!

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    6. Re:I know it's all in fun... by Tenebrousedge · · Score: 2, Funny

      I am currently sitting about twenty miles from one of the leading contenders for the snowiest spot on the globe. That would be Thompson Pass, near Valdez, Alaska. I will send you some snow if you like--we probably have enough.

      I am so thrilled by all of this wonderful snow that we get. So thrilled. On an entirely unrelated subject, I'm looking for good books on how to tie a noose correctly. Have you heard of any?

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    7. Re:I know it's all in fun... by maxume · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think mostly that the wires are just stiffer, so the ease of untangling comes from the difficulty of tangling.

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    8. Re:I know it's all in fun... by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I've noticed that too. I have a pair of Sony earbuds that were about the same price as Apple charges for a pair like the ones that came with my iPhone. The Sony buds sound better but I'm forever untangling them after pulling them out of my pocket. With the Apple earbuds, all I had to do is shake them a few times and they were ready to go. I think it's the silicon jacket they use in place of the typical PVC.

      Now, if only Apple would improve the sound and durability. Mine started distorting on volume peaks (like speakers with a torn cone) after about two months.

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    9. Re:I know it's all in fun... by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 2, Funny

      That should have been silicone, not silicon.. But I guess silicon wouldn't tangle either.

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  2. Discovery Institute should get its act together! by grub · · Score: 3, Funny


    Too bad the Creationists can't come up with any actual scientific research, they'd win this honour every year!

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  3. The Next Big Controversy by explosivejared · · Score: 4, Funny

    There was even more agitation over the chemistry prize, awarded jointly to rival teams - one from the United States which determined Coca-Cola to be an effective spermicide and one from Taiwan which proved it is not.

    I don't see how any self-respecting scientist can sleep at night until this situation is rectified. I know I can't!

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    1. Re:The Next Big Controversy by Kandenshi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      ugh, they don't go into details of how that's used, but assuming it's like typical spermicides and it's vaginally applied that's a TERRIBLE idea. Even if it kills sperm, that'd completely screw up the pH balance and flood it with sugar. Sounds to me like exactly what you don't want to do(unless you like yeast infections and other such STIs)

    2. Re:The Next Big Controversy by fishthegeek · · Score: 2, Funny

      So... you're saying that you won't be able to sleep because you are not sure whether or not you should wash your hands with a cold Coke Classic before bed?

      It sounds like you're going to be the research topic for next years awards.

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    3. Re:The Next Big Controversy by wormBait · · Score: 2, Funny

      They used different experimental techniques. I think one was in vitro and one in situ.

    4. Re:The Next Big Controversy by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Coca Cola from the USA is significantly different from Coca Cola from Taiwan?

      It's quite possible they use different sweeteners (high fructose corn syrup vs. cane sugar) or other substitute ingredients due to relative expense per region.

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    5. Re:The Next Big Controversy by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There was even more agitation over the chemistry prize, awarded jointly to rival teams - one from the United States which determined Coca-Cola to be an effective spermicide and one from Taiwan which proved it is not.

      I don't see how any self-respecting scientist can sleep at night until this situation is rectified. I know I can't!

      Apparently, Coca Cola in the US is not quite the same as Coca Cola in several other countries. In the US, corn syrup is used as the sweetener. In many other countries, syrup from sugar cane is used. The two syrups' particular sucroses and admixed flavourings (impurities) are not the same. Perhaps the difference is just enough.

      Hey, corn syrup as a spermicide! What an idea for a research proposal! Next year, maybe I'll get an Ig!

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    6. Re:The Next Big Controversy by pluther · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You might also want to check into the water.

      Quality and filtration processes may be different enough to be another factor.

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    7. Re:The Next Big Controversy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There are idiots everwhere, some even belive that there is vaccination for cancer.

      "[...] who think young ladies shouldn't get vaccinated against a sexually transmitted disease known to have a high statistical correlation with cervical cancer." <-- Fixed for you.

  4. The acoustics of crisp by Chris+Pimlott · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Funny coincidence, I just watched the Fish & Chips episode of Heston Blumenthal's BBC series "In Search of Perfection", which discussed just the same thing. Blumenthal is the head chef at The Fat Duck, the restaurant mentioned in the article, and a major figure in the "molecular gastronomy" scene.

    He visits a scientist in the UK to test the crispiness of different batter recipes, using an apparatus that analyzes the sound waves generated by poking the food with a probe. It's not the same scientist as mentioned in the Ig Nobel article, though, no idea if it's related to the specific research citing by Ig Nobel.

    There's video from the episode online, the relevant segment begins at the 2 minute mark.

  5. Re:Discovery Institute should get its act together by grub · · Score: 2, Informative


    Evolution has mountains of scientific evidence supporting it, your "feeling" has none. Who's trolling now?

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  6. improbable.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
  7. Placebo effect by TheLink · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "He says his work has implications for the way drugs are marketed. People often think generic medicine is inferior. But gussy it up a bit, change the name, make it appear more expensive, and maybe it will work better, he said."

    Well I'd rather be convinced that cheaper medicine is better or the same as expensive medicine :).

    "In the 18 subjects Miller studied, average earnings were $250 for a five-hour shift. That jumped to $350 to $400 per five-hour shift when the women were their most fertile, he said."

    There's research that shows that women tend to actually appear more attractive during their most fertile days (and probably might behave in a more attractive manner too ).

    http://www.radio.cz/en/article/52484

    BTW there's also:
    http://www.nature.com/news/2008/080226/full/news.2008.625.html
    http://www.newlifeafterdivorce.com/Relationships/Married-fertile-women-prefer-single-men.html

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    1. Re:Placebo effect by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "He says his work has implications for the way drugs are marketed. People often think generic medicine is inferior. But gussy it up a bit, change the name, make it appear more expensive, and maybe it will work better, he said."

      So that means that us knowledgeable people will achieve better results with the standard medicine, or worse results with the more expensive one?

  8. Re:All science is irellevant -except for THEOLOGY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Sarah Palin, is that you misspelling "atheist"?!

  9. Re:Discovery Institute should get its act together by plover · · Score: 2, Informative

    The "I'm not buying it" argument against evolution typically comes because humans do not innately have the understanding of the time scales involved, or of the nature of probability.

    Humans don't typically pay attention long enough to visibly see evolution taking place. The evidence is there, but it may take effort to put it together, and they're unwilling to do that. (I keep thinking that a month-long process of breeding antibiotic-resistant e. coli and feeding it to them would go a long way toward helping them understand it, but that's just me.) And lots of people don't understand probability -- look at gamblers and their "systems", or even try to explain the Monty Hall problem to someone.

    And of course lots of people don't understand simply because they can't or won't make the effort. I have less respect for those people.

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  10. Re:Discovery Institute should get its act together by Grishnakh · · Score: 2, Informative

    (I keep thinking that a month-long process of breeding antibiotic-resistant e. coli and feeding it to them would go a long way toward helping them understand it, but that's just me.)

    No, that won't work. They'll say that's just "microevolution", and that it proves nothing about "macroevolution". This is the standard creationist argument any time antibiotic-resistant bacteria are brought up.

  11. Re:Discovery Institute should get its act together by geekoid · · Score: 2, Informative

    That won't work becasue they would use the moving goal post fallacy, among others.

    We can see perfectly clear evidence of evolution in humans. They just don't want to believe, so they don't. They want others to believe so the make stuff up. The fact that none of what they say about evolution is true.

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  12. Re:All science is irellevant -except for THEOLOGY by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The liberal is only liberal and accepting of other liberals, they will not recognize the conservative's right to their ideals and will fight in a court of law to enforce their ideals.

    To be a social liberal, one must accept social conservatives' right to hold and express their their ideas, however stupid. The ACLU stands up for the free speech rights of even those on the far far right, neo-Nazis and the KKK.

    Being a social liberal does not, however, mean refraining from exercising your own free speech rights to tell these people that they are full of shit.

    Social conservatives, on the other hand, advocate inequality under the law for people whose opinions or actions they find distasteful. In their eyes, those who believe in and practice "traditional values" should be granted special legal rights.

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  13. Knot theory is "under-researched" ?? by l2718 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Knot theory is a significant and active branch of topology. It is certainly not "under-researched" in any sense in which the expression can be applied to mathematics. In other words, it is not like there are obvious results left undiscovered because people don't care about the field. While knot theorists would certainly think that we should work on it more, in that they are no different than other mathematicians: most people think the problems in their field are the most interesting ones -- otherwise they wouldn't be working on them!

  14. Knot theory by rossdee · · Score: 4, Funny

    I am sure that knot theory would be useful to cosmologists studying string theory.

  15. Re:Discovery Institute should get its act together by dmbasso · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I remember a story posted here on /. about a scientist that found a mutation on his bacterias that allowed them to metabolize methane. IIRC, it happened in the range of 20K to 40K generations. The unikonts you mentioned seem to be very hard to happen given our lifespan, but after 10^10 generations it is not that difficult to think happening.

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  16. Re:Discovery Institute should get its act together by plover · · Score: 2, Informative

    We can see perfectly clear evidence of evolution in humans.

    Go on ..

    Nobody ever said evolution would produce a "better" animal, just one "more suited" to breed in the environment in which it lives.

    Yeah. Think about that.

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