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Opera 9.60 Released, With Upgraded Mail Client
Kelson writes "Opera Software has released Opera 9.60, the latest version of their web browser & internet suite. It's an evolutionary release, focused on performance optimization, improving the email client and adding more items to the Opera Link synchronization service."
Apparently you also couldn't wait to waste everybody's time with a totally pointless post on Slashdot. Good job!
Dick.
How many people use the mail client?
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As a greasy Open Sores advocate, can I still spout my idiotic talking points about how I use this web browser?
I don't think so. I'll pass...
I wish I could un-read your post and pray that those responsible for it have been sacked.
I never spellcheck and I freely admit it. Save your karma for more worthwhile "lol erorrs" replies
Well said! I'm a big Opera fan (although I don't use the mail client) and I really don't understand the 'down' some people have on this most excellent browser. Perhaps he's a Microsoft whore.
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The official download defaults to QT3 even though same build is offered as QT4 in beta.
There might be graphical bugs but I couldnt find any.
It's a lot lighter weight than FF and has everything built in including IRC and BT, spell check uses gnu-aspell, and the email client rocks. Tabs and mouse getures came from it, so whats not to love. If you haven't used it check it out. If you have, but not for a while, do yourself a favor and see how it is now.
Opera and myself have been browsing the web for porn since 2000 :) I never leave my pants on the floor without it :)
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Someone needs to engineer an app that would let me have a tab for each, we could call it Firefopera Internet Chromesplorer!
"I really don't understand the 'down' some people have on this most excellent browser." - by Smivs (1197859) on Wednesday October 08, @02:02PM (#25302743) Homepage
Nope, FireFox freaks have more of a tendency to put down Opera, then IE fans (MS fans) do... by far.
Opera has a mail client? Who knew?
Seriously - until a few weeks ago I never noticed it had a mail client. I just use Opera to verify sites. I never checked to see what other features the browser had. I'd run it long enough to see that menus, etc. rendered correctly and then shut it down and go right back to Firefox.
I mean, really. With all the great open source mail clients out there, why would I need a mail client from Opera?
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I've been using opera since v2. And yes that makes me one of those people who actually paid for a browser. Over the years it's grown in size and complexity but still manages a great and fast browser.
But I have to admit I'm finding Chrome very alluring.
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If I had to choose between Firefox 3, Chrome and Opera, currently I'd rather use Opera. It's the only one of the three that does not blur images that have been resized in the html source. FF3 and Chrome use scaling interpolation (or antialising?) so heavily on the images it makes you feel as if you had some kind of selective myopia. That unwanted effect breaks the design of a lot of pixelart/retrogaming websites, including mine, and I really don't see in which circumtances it may actually be useful.
If you haven't tried Opera, I highly recommend you give it a spin. It's a great browser and it's worth using for regular browsing; even better than Firefox, in my opinion. Firefox's extensions still give it the edge for web development, but Opera is quite close. Here are my favorite features Opera has over Firefox:
A sexy default look. I think Opera generally looks much sleeker, and the smooth-scrolling is worlds better (parabolic instead of linear, I think). It's a tiny aesthetic change that makes a big difference in ease of use (I don't lose my place) and feel of the app.
Speed dial. You've got your top nine right there in front of you.
The Wand. It's a huge time-saver if you have multiple logins for a site. Just click the username you need to use, and Opera submits the form with the creds you picked. It's faster and less clunky than the dropdown that Firefox uses.
The Trash bin. It lets you pick any recently closed page; you don't have to Ctrl-Shift-T through all the tabs you just closed to find the right one.
Quick search. Firefox has inline search too, but Opera simultaneously highlights *all* occurrences of the search text as you type.
And finally...
Dragonfly, the Opera javascript debugger. This baby is impressive. It's much easier to use than Venkman and rivals Firebug. The script window lets you pick any loaded script (inline scripts have their own entry!). The DOM tab (which is less spastic than Firebug's) lets you inspect all of your elements in folding-tree style. The Styles pane with then show you the explicit and computed styles on the element. Fantastic.
So give Opera a try. You might find a thing or three that you like.
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Seriously, Opera's mail client is amazing (No, I don't work for them). I've tried the other biggies (MS and TBird) and I really like the way Opera manages the content. It's almost like they took a step back and examined all the things that email should do as a properly databased system and made it do those things. Finding an email that's a few years old is extremely fast and easy, the filter system/contacts is amazing, it really understands the concept of an instance of the email -- the same email can appear in multiple places but doesn't have to be copied. It's just smooth. Only two minor gripes: 1-it's quite technical and I've had a bit of a hard time showing non-techs how to get the most of it, and 2-no HTML composition, but who cares? I'm in the design business and I rarely need it -- it's one of those features desired by people who really think that putting their content in bright green will make it more interesting/important (sorry, got off on a rant there)
That might be because switching from IE to Opera is relatively easy. IE is a very basic browser so when you switch to Opera you get all sorts of new features to play with.
When you're a Firefox user the first thing you miss is all the Firefox extensions. Firebug? AdBlock Plus subscriptions? Some Firefox extensions are replaced by Opera features, but many aren't. It's difficult trying to live without features you're used to. It's like having dual monitors for a few years and then going back to a single monitor.
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On the other hand, an Opera user trying to use Firefox feels lost, the same way :)
I'm still using 9.27. Tried 9.5 and it had so many quirks that I reverted back. Not quite sure if I should even try 9.6...
Long-time opera user here, and I feel it's falling behind rapidly. No ACID3, relatively slow javascript, other browsers catching up.
When chrome gets fixed, safari gets inline search off the / key, FF stops being slow and/or any of them get the nifty right/left click gesture to go back I'll be switching.
Although just typing /. in the address bar to go to slashdot may be the opera clincher :-)
They don't have ads anymore. They stopped using ads YEARS ago.
In the same way, switching to Firefox from Opera feels really crippling as I've gotten so used to Opera's convenient mouse gestures. The feeling is like losing the mousewheel you've gotten so used to it.
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Opera 9.5 broke the "noko" feature in 4chan which forced me to revert to 9.27.
Is noko fixed in Opera 9.6? Does anyone know?
Blazing-fast fullpage zoom: using the + and - keys makes Opera a delight to use for those of us browsing at high resolutions with websites designed for low resolutions. With 30" monitors like mine, it's an absolute must.
note:Firefox 3.1 has a horribly slow full page zoom on my dual core 2.2 Ghz AMD.
Instant page backtracking:. No re-rendering delay. (oh how I wish I could use Opera on my iPhone just because of that). The bonus is that any text typed by the user is also saved. A lifesaver for those of us who post on forums and hate to see their comments "eaten" by server and network errors.
Snappiest interface of the bunch: It shows quickdial tabs faster than the firefox plugin. Closing tabs and opening new ones is faster. Scrolling is faster. The reduced input latency makes interacting with the browser more enjoyable. Chrome is second best in this regard.
All of this makes up for the slightly higher incompatibility issues Opera deals with and the lack of addons (segmented downloading? Adblock? etc.). I can always fire up Chrome or Firefox if I need to.
until a few weeks ago I never noticed it had a mail client.
You don't seem to be a very observant person. Opera has had a mail client for at least 5 years.
I never checked to see what other features the browser had [...] I'd run it long enough to see that menus, etc. rendered correctly and then shut it down and go right back to Firefox.
I see, so you're not merely unobservant, you're also either lazy or stupid. You downloaded the browser, installed it, ran it, but couldn't even be bothered to see what features it had? Hint: all the features that Firefox and Safari will have one year later (and MSIE four years later). Guess who invented tabbed browsing, page zoom, instant history.back, the side panel, pop-up blocking, speed dial, site nicknames, inline search, multiple search engine access from the address line, mouse gestures, dynamic address completion, etc., etc., etc.
I mean, really. With all the great open source mail clients out there, why would I need a mail client from Opera?
The question should be the other way around: Why should you need to go looking for other e-mail clients when at least one browser (Opera) comes with an excellent built-in one?
I might consider using it when they remove the ads.
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Opera has "widgets" that function pretty much as FireFox .xpi addons do - so, please, cease the "F.U.D." there 'Elmer' (Fudd)
So I tried Opera a while back and the pages were noticeably slower to load then in Firefox. Having just tried it now, I can safely say that its finally a bit faster. I'll be happily switching and taking advantage of all of Opera's features that Firefox has yet to implement.
Actually, according to the writers of the test, no engine passed completely until September 25th, when Webkit managed to render the animation portion smoothly
Opera's rendering engine (Presto/WinGogi) and WebKit (used in Chrome / Safari) both reached 100/100 on the 26th and 27th of March, respectively.
Introducing "smoothness" requirements means a browser may pass or fail the test depending on what hardware it's running on (and the opinion of the person watching the test - smooth for you might not be smooth for me). IMO the point of the Acid test is to check standards-compliance, not performance. If a browser gets 100/100, it passed.
And while both layout engines got the perfect score months ago, the current release version of Safari scores only 75/100, and Opera 9.60 scores only 85/100 (highest of any current non-beta browser, but still not 100).
BTW, the Acid3 test has changed several times after bugs in the test itself were discovered, the latest one on September 29th, so maybe no engine will actually get 100/100 when it's fixed.
it used to be that Opera had pretty much cloned all the neato features of other browsers
In fact, they were so good at "cloning the neato features of other browsers" that they often cloned those features months (sometimes years) before the other browsers had them (in some cases, before those browsers even existed). :-)
Personally, I like Opera on Windows quite a bit and it may be my favorite browser on that platform... but I don't browse in Windows [...] you realize they coded it for Windows
If you're going to pick one platform to optimise (or if you're going to pick one platform to benchmark), it makes sense to pick the platform with 90% market share (Windows) over one that barely reaches 5% (OS X), no? Or test all platforms and then weigh the final scores based on each platform's share.
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He flamed a pointless first post and was modded insightful. I'd say he's an old Slashdot pro. Since the response was an AC I'd say he is an Opera user who modded the OP flamebait, posted his response, and modded then it insightful.
As a KDE user, I prefer Opera over Firefox, simply use to better resource useage, that being said, has Opera 9.6 started using Qt4 yet?
Widgets don't actually modify the functionality of Opera. I would like to have a verticle tree-view mode for the tabs in Opera. I get this on Firefox via the "Tree Style Tab" extension, and it's amazing. It's the only reason I'm typing this on Firefox at the moment. In many, many ways, I still prefer Opera. Bit this particular feature is a dealmaker. Widgets can't provide this kind of functionality.