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Brainwave Controlled Game From Square Enix
zombies-alive writes "Square Enix and Neurosky, maker of wearable sensory equipment, are coming out with a new 'Brainwave-Controlled' RPG. The game will be demonstrated at the Tokyo Game Show for the (Windows) PC, which features the NeuroSky MindSet headset. At this moment, the headset only detects the gamer's level of concentration and relaxation by means of a single electrode placed on the forehead."
OK, now tell me how this helps me slaughter n00bs more efficiently.
for bending spoons(using the mind)?
proud caffeine whore
...Windows crashes and accidentally erases your mind?
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There is no spoon!
Make SELinux enforcing again!
This...ain't...no...damn...game. Forget the women. Love each other. To be god, to be what you were, to realize the reflection, to love the self. Love, like you. Homo marriage. Gay...God.
I've heard that the internet is changing the way that people think. They think in short quick bursts now instead of long thoughtful periods.
Perhaps this type of controller will reverse that trend.
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What I mean is maybe we can ignore the interrupts if we get trained to do it by the controller. Don't tell me that you haven't been trained by games. You could probably do Ms Pacman blindfolded
...do I wear my aluminum foil over or under this electrode?
Says brainwaves all over the places, but I wonder how much of the interaction is instead due to muscle movement sampling.
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...when I get slaughtered by a boss, and I realize that no amount of skill will compensate for the requisite three hours of level grinding to go before I have a chance of winning.
It's a cute gimmick, but this will likely equate to a single extra button - a hands-off on-off switch. It's a bit of a stretch to say the game will be "brain controlled". If the game can be controlled with a single button, then that's a little more shallow than RPGs I normally play.
My fear would be that this would mar an otherwise fun RPG with a pointless piece of flaky hardware. I'll wait and see how the reviews go, I guess.
Irony: Agile development has too much intertia to be abandoned now.
with our brains so we can get first post!
Imagine someone's brain when it gets slashdotted. *winks
Imagine a Beowulf cluster of peoples brains hooked up to the internet.
When will the control work in reverse and extend to mind control?
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... GlaxoSmithKline stock (maker of Imitrex) is up.
I only post comments when someone on the internet is wrong.
A way to look more nerdy while playing an RPG!
This will enable them to fry the brain of any would be pirates, thereby freeing the world of this evil money-sapping criminal scourge!
The entirety of the wealth generated by the Internet, all Software ever written, and every piece of adult content ever generated, will pale in comparison to the wealth generated when you can download into your brain a sexual fantasy that seems completely real. In fact, this may be man kind's last invention.
"No time to work on that, I just finished my custom simulation of Planet Bigboner, which is populated exclusively by 19-year-old-Claudia-Schiffer-Nymphomaniac-Clones who all worship me as their Great Deity. Sometimes I am a just and fair God, sometimes an angry one. I will be playing this until I die or they turn off my power, now go away and don't interrupt my simulation or I will kill you."
My favorite quote doesn't fit into 120 characters. Now no one will like me.
with our brains so we can get first post! Imagine someone's brain when it gets slashdotted. *winks Imagine a Beowulf cluster of peoples brains hooked up to the internet. When will the control work in reverse and extend to mind control?
this isn't like some brain interface; a peripheral would match it more. We have a while until the brain is a fully understood organ. Mapping it out doesn't create a true interface, but you can use it to create an output that decisions are made based on it, like a joystick or gamepad. Keep wishing though Mr. Lawnmower Man :-P
They had an exhibit at the science center in calgary that let two people sit down and each wear this helmet strap thing. The more you relaxed, the closer a ball got to your opponent's side. Conversely, the more 'stressed' you were, the closer it got to your side, forcing you to "try to relax" even more. We played it 4 or 5 times, the first few genuinely, then with me trying as hard as i could to be stressed and concentrate as much as possible. I found absolutely no correlation between me and the ball
One who is less capable of constructing sentances than Sarah Palin!
Let me guess - you gain levels faster the less brain activity is registered. How fast can you mash Confirm to select Attack? How fast can you mash Skip Cutscene to prevent a complete loss of brain activity?
See http://www.replay.drexel.edu for Lazy Brains, a game using an fNIR brain interface as covered by the LA Times, Philly Inquirer, Wired, etc.
The idea is much older than you might think. Atari planned to do something very similar in addition to cordless controllers, light guns, and a primitive motion sensor controller. Atari had a lot of great ideas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Mindlink
yeah I'm still waiting to be able to hook up my brain to the computer, since I read the neuromancer.
Even though I don't wanna get brain-gimped by some mistake or someone messing with it hehe
so obviously my question would be, if i had a seizure, would whatever it is i am controlling have a seizure too? cause um, that would almost be comical, i would totally watch a pokemon cartoon for that.
"At this moment, the headset only detects the gamer's level of concentration and relaxation by means of a single electrode placed on the forehead." If I wanted to know how you are concentrating or relaxing, the forehead is not where I would put that single electrode...
No?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23595533/
I can see the Slashdot headline ten years from now: "Nerd plays MMO for three years, control fused to forehead. On an up note, he reached level 50!"
"Even though I don't wanna get brain-gimped by some mistake or someone messing with it hehe"
Meh, that's just the meat talkin'. Just watch out for the ice...
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"At this moment, the headset only detects the gamer's level of concentration and relaxation by means of a single electrode placed on the forehead"... ONE electrode... magic?
That was the basis for William Shatner's movie*: 'TekWar' and the TV series of the same name.**
*(from imdb.com) "A television movie based on the futurist story by William Shatner." and from same source:"Plot summary for
TekWar (1994) (TV) More at IMDb Pro
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After four years, Jake Cardigan is prematurely awoken from his fifteen year cryogenic punishment to a world very different than the one he knew. Much more than before 'Tek', the highly-addictive electronic designer narcotic of the 21st century, seems to be prevalent. His wife has divorced him and disappeared together with their son. He wants them back and he wants justice for those undercover policemen who were murdered by unknown conspirators which led to his imprisonment for a crime he did not commit. He links up with his ex-partner Sid Gomez, now also an ex-cop, and they go to work for the mysterious Bascom who owns and runs the giant Cosmos security corporation. Their first job is a seemingly easy missing persons case trying to locate a missing scientist who may have developed a crystal to destroy Tek chips. The more the two men investigate the more the dark and powerful forces of the hidden Tek lords are sent to thwart them. What is the connection between this case and his wrongful imprisonment four years ago? Will he ever be able to trace his lost family through the infinite twists and turns of this new technological age? In a race against time Jake struggles to come to terms with this new world where nothing is as it seems and his place within it. Written by Mark Smith {msmith@osi.co.uk}"
**(also from imdb.com) "Plot summary for
"TekWar" (1995) More at IMDb Pro
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The year is 2045 and "tek," a highly addictive computer-based reality drug takes the users of the drug into a fantasy world. Jake Cardigan, a copy who was jailed on trumped charges, is hired by the mysterious Walter Bascom to fight the drug. Jake's first partner was Sid Gomez who was replaced by sexy Sam Houston; Nika is a computer wiz who works for Bascom; Cowgirl and Spaz are two "cyberpunks"; and Shelley Grout is a government agent trying to stop Jake. Written by J.E. McKillop {jack-mckillop@worldnet.att.net}"
"...which is populated exclusively by 19-year-old-Claudia-Schiffer-Nymphomaniac-Clones..."
That sounds nice, but there's a lot to be said for the old cliche: 'variety is the spice of life', in this scenario.
Perhaps better yet, having the ability to reprogram/make changes on the fly...hopefully not by command line interface though.
Ah hell! Some fellow *nix fanboy will jump on this codemonkey style, create a f*ugly UI that will first tell you to RTFM, then RTFFAQ's, then 'Google it' before you can start the app.
*disclaimer*
The above should be taken as 'tongue in cheek hyperbole', not as a serious flame-if you can't poke fun at yourself, then you have no business poking fun at others!
BTW: I too, am looking forward to my 'tek' overlords! Or, 'Necromancer' style plugging in.
Either one/both would be fine with me as long as it's NOT Microsoft OS support only. It needs to be truly cross-platform: Windows, Mac, *nix, *bsd, etc. (Hp-Vax, Sun, IBM?-over my head in this class of OS!), or better yet, OS agnostic.
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I'm surprised no one else has mentioned the OCZ Neural Impulse Actuator yet.
Its essentially the same thing, but with a USB interface for PCs.
http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/ocz_peripherals/nia-neural_impulse_actuator
Price is a little steep for a first gen product, but it has been quite widely reviewed and said to actually work.
Sorry their device probably does not measure brainwaves. A single electrode on the forehead would measure only forehead muscle activity (EMG) and eye movements (EOG), but not brainwave activity (EEG). The developers are basically banking that you wrinkle your forehead when you "concentrate". As an aside, EMG is really easy to record, while EEG is much more complicated and not well-suited to a consumer device.
I hope it's the marketing department BS and not the inventors who are misrepresenting their product.
[I am a professional EEG researcher.]
SquareEnix RPG: Apply directly to the forehead!
SquareEnix RPG: Apply directly to the forehead!
SquareEnix RPG... Apply directly to the forehead!
(Sorry... even I'M ashamed *AC*)
Wow I can't wait to see all the whining posts on how quickly people can ninja loot phats with this gadget.
Since most Squeenix titles are so laden with cut-scenes and what-not already to the point that I don't need to have my hands on the controller anyway, I assumed this "mind control" thing was already pretty much implemented.
I am amused that the VERY NEXT post on Slashdot is this "Geneticist Claims Human Evolution Is Over".
Imagine a brainwave LAN party where a guy and a girl rise above the gray matter mass, and after some tough head to head battle (ROFL) they fall in love, and have kids. Their son/daughter repeats on the latest technology... Repeat. Pretty soon, you're breeding, yea, EVOLVING BrainWavers.
By that time, the technology of the headsets will improve to where the better brainwavers work better, and the creme de la creme breed. Soon, they don't need the GameStation 20,000. They can do it with pickleballs in mid-air.
Of course, then the concentration camps and PsiCorp arise, but I digress...
It's called biofeedback. My Uncle used to have an electric train that you could "control" with your mind. The more relaxed you were, the faster the train would go.
Um... I was playing the new Square-Enix RPG of course!
I was looking at this the other day... would be an interesting toy to tinker with to see what else you could do with it... too bad there are no linux drivers.
My prediction is that in less than 20 years cell phones, or whatever passes for cell phones by then, will be implanted below the skin. Look at all the people walking around in what would normally be in and off itself a social setting and yet they are simultaneously busy chattering away to someone on their phone non-stop. It won't take more than a generation or two before people are connected 24/7. Time to start buying stock in manufacturers of hive...errr condo/apartments.
The tyrant will always find a pretext for his tyranny - Aesop
Why do you place the mic in your forehead?
i figure, they'll show off the device, by attaching it to a amoeba, since i suggest that's about the most brain power you'll ever need (want to have) to successfully finish one of their rpgs.
This is much better than the NeuroSky crap, why in gods name they went with them is beyond me.
Seriously? Concentration based?
This thing won't survive with OCZ and uh, Emotiv (forgot the name) having devices that aren't 1 dimensional crap that would fail with thick people.
Harsh, i know, but seriously? Come on, this is like expecting a tile with a radio drawn on to produce music.