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Steve Wozniak Predicts Death of the IPod

Slatterz writes "Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak, better known in the industry as 'Woz,' believes that the iPod is on its way out and has revealed his discomfort with some aspects of the iPhone. Wozniak said that the iPod has had a long time as the world's most popular media player, and that it will fall from grace due to oversupply. Wozniak also commented on the iPhone's proprietary nature and locked service provider, and compared it to Google's open Android platform. 'Consumers are not getting all they want when companies are very proprietary and lock their products down,' he said. 'I would like to write some more powerful apps than what you're allowed.'"

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  1. I don't think most people care that it's locked by GrpA · · Score: 4, Informative

    I can't understand the appear of iXXXX's either. Locked proprietary technology with limited scope for a geek to truly enjoy.

    What I've noticed though is that the people who buy them don't seem to care...

    Sure they'll die, but I doubt they'll die just because there's something better on the market.

    And as for open alternatives? I've had a Symbian phone for years. Lots of free apps and developer tools, built in GPS and great touch screen, been around for years... That didn't stop the iPhone coming out either.

    GrpA

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  2. Re:He's a genius by DurendalMac · · Score: 4, Informative

    Really? So a new iPod costs less than $40 like the battery replacement kits? They're not that tough to do. Heck, if you're worried, mail it into Blue Raven for $70 and let them do it. They'll replace it with a higher capacity battery and ship it back to you within three days. Still cheaper than a new one.

  3. Re:iTunes = malware by Bearhouse · · Score: 4, Informative

    iTunes works well on Macs, where people want, and expect, things to 'just work'.
    On windows platforms, where many users have been forced to learn more than they'd like to about the technical aspects, I agree that iTunes is a pain. It renames your mp3 files, reformats iPods if you try to connect to another PC, limits your ability to share file whatever.

    Typical closed architecture, (reminds me of the old IBM days). Products work reasonably well within one manufacturer's range, don't play well with others.

    Since all my kids have PCs and iPods, we use Mediamonkey.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediamonkey
    Works as advertised. Free version enough for most people.
    Recommended. (c)Pournelle.

  4. Re:First post by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Ipod is safe.

    I bought a Sansa E280 the other day (at woot) for 59 dollars.

    It's got 8gig RAM, plus a microSD slot. Once I put Rockbox (!) on it, I can play flac, ogg, avi.

    I'm loading last night's South Park on it right now, in fact.

    It cost me 59 dollars.

    I'm not so sure the iPod is "safe".

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  5. Re:He's a genius by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not to be a prick, but I've used a Sansa (previously) and an iPod video (now) regularly, and:

    1. iPod has better UI;

    2. iPod has better sound quality;

    3. iPod has longer battery life;

    4. If I want to run Linux or develop my own infinitely configurable embedded system I have access to a dozen laptops, desktops, PDAs, phones, calculators, etc - and I do. But I use my iPod to listen to music and talk ("podcasts") and occasionally watch videos;

    5. In particular, I don't use it to "play games";

    6. I don't have any reason to care what detailed format the video is stored in on the iPod, since it's on there to watch, not to edit. I can resize for space before transfer if necessary;

    7. Database+metadata+synchronisation are more powerful concepts than straight hierarchical filesystems, i.e. iTunes is actually quite lovely once you get used to it;

    8. Finally, good luck with carrying around 80GB (per GP post) of MicroSD cards.

    An average user treats an electronic device as a tool which must do one or more particular things well. An average geek treats a tool as something which can be made to do as many things as imaginable. An elitist geek treats a tool as something which must do as many things as imaginable. You appear to fit in this third category.

    You're welcome to argue that you aren't interested in an iPod's particular benefits, but most people are.

  6. Re:iPhone discomfort, yes by Karlt1 · · Score: 3, Informative

    The iPhone has 2.8% market share as of August 2008. It's not even close to being the #1 smartphone in the US. Keep drinking that tasty koolaid though.

    http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/smartphones/iphone-greedily-eats-north-american-market-share-334516.php

    Canalys has produced a report showing the iPhone has grown massively in North America. The study looked specifically at smartphone market share statistics in Q3, and the iPhone, in a surprisingly short time span, has managed to grab second position. A 27% market share is nothing to scoff at; what Apple has done in a few months, others have failed to do in years.

    This was during the quarter that Apple was basically not manufacturing 1st gen iPhones....
    http://www.intomobile.com/2008/06/03/palm-centro-boosts-palm-marketshare-rim-sees-blackberry-market-share-rise-apple-loses-in-iphone-market.html

    But, there's always two sides to every story. While RIM and Palm saw their market-share increase, Apple saw its market-share slide. The iPhone took a healthy US smartphone market-share of 26.7% in the fourth quarter last year. But, it seems that RIM and Palm's success has eaten in to the iPhone's niche. The iPhone accounted for just 19.2% of smartphones sales in the first quarter of 2008, compared to 26.7% of sales in Q4 2007.

    http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2227601/apple-iphone-gains-market-share
    Oct 7, 2008

    The handset now accounts for 17 per cent of the market, second only to Motorola's RazR2. Before the iPhone 3G launch Apple's market share was 11 per cent. ....
    Rubin noted that the iPhone is now outselling the BlackBerry Curve, BlackBerry Pearl and Palm Centro, making it the number one smartphone in the US.

  7. Re:First post by Phroggy · · Score: 5, Informative

    what the hell is hoovering?

    We don't use this much in the United States, but in the UK it means using a vacuum cleaner. Hoover is a brand name that (in the UK) became as synonymous with vacuum cleaners as Band-Aid did with bandages here.

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  8. Re:First post by NateTech · · Score: 4, Informative

    Your daughter sees the difference, and it's a difference many of us don't "get".

    iPod isn't a technology play. That ended around the time the first iPod Mini came out.

    iPod is a FASHION show play.

    Your daughter wants to SHOW OFF her iPod, not listen to music.

    Just wait, soon she'll be asking to buy all sorts of pairs of shoes. :-)

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