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Choosing a Replacement Email System For a University?

SmarkWoW writes "The university I attend is currently looking to change the way in which is provides its students with an email service. In the past they used a legacy mail system which can no longer fit their needs. A committee has narrowed the possibilities down to three vendors: Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo. Representatives from these three vendors will be coming to our college and giving a presentation on the advantages of their systems. We're looking at other services these companies provide such as calendaring and integration with existing software that our university runs. What questions would Slashdot readers ask during these Q&A sessions? Which of these three companies would you recommend? Why? What advantages would each have that college-level students would take advantage of? What other aspects should we consider when making our decision?"

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  1. Why aren't you running it yourselves? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I work for a small-ish university in Canada and we run our own mail systems. With the proper software and expertise it's not that difficult to do.

    Is there some reason that you're looking at external vendors? Not enough staff? Not enough internal expertise with email? Cost? Something else?

    If you did decide to host it yourself, you could go the traditional route with a Unix-based mailserver, and something like Horde's IMP for Webmail. Or you could look at something like Zimbra, which has all your mail basics plus extra goodness like calendaring built-in.

    As for who I would go with from Google, Yahoo and Microsoft - as a former sysadmin I would avoid Microsoft. This isn't because I'm some kind of Unix bigot - it's because in my experience they tend to oversell the capabilities of their products ... the true limitations of which you discover after the deal has been signed.
    That may have just been the reps we had back in Ottawa, but YMMV.

  2. Re:Missing option: by _Sharp'r_ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Google, because then your students and teachers can use Google Apps instead of whatever they're using now to submit and share documents.

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  3. Re:Horde by cailith1970 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I work at the ITEE school at my uni, and our tech section was running Horde for our email server. It was superb. Alas, orders came from above that they wished to centralise the email servers and we got stuck on Exchange. It's crap compared to what we had. The web client is rubbish, and the mail server is dog slow.

    I'd go with the above suggestion if you have the choice. Second choice, I'd probably recommend Google.

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  4. Re:Must be a pretty crappy university. by mattOzan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Until this fall, our university was maintaining one of, if not the largest, Cyrus mail system in the world. Over 50,000 mailboxes generating an average of 4,000,000 transactions a day (peaking at 5,000,000), hosted on a cluster of SunFire servers and StorEdge/StorageTek SAN. In-house, open-source...sounds great, right?

    This year we estimated the cost of increasing our default inbox quota from a paltry 60 MB to 1 GB (a long-overdue upgrade). The total came in at about US$500,000, which is fiscally untenable at this point.

    Then we were hit by a previously unknown ZFS bug that crippled mail delivery for almost a week while we worked with Carnegie Mellon, Sun and consultants trying to figure out why our system wasn't scaling properly.

    We realized that sometimes outsourcing is the best alternative, no matter what in-house resources or requirements exist.

    We just launched Google-hosted email for all students, which is projected to save $250,000 annually (or more if TCO is considered).

    It was fun being the guinea-pig for scaling up Cyrus, but by partnering with Google we can deliver more reliable, larger inboxes and save money instead of spending it. DIY "let the CS department handle it" philosophies are great, but not always the best plan. Even for email, outsourcing can sometimes be the best option, not a cop out.