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RIAA Wants Its $222,000 Verdict Back

NewYorkCountryLawyer writes "The RIAA, unhappy with the Court's decision setting aside its $222,000 jury verdict over $23.76 worth of song files, and throwing out the legal theory on which it was based, has made a motion for permission to file an appeal from the Judge's order, in Capitol v. Thomas. Normally, only final judgments are appealable, and appeals are not permissible in federal court from 'interlocutory' orders of that nature."

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  1. It's not about the money by Bonker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's NEVER been about the money. It's not about compensating the artists. (Ha!)

    This is 100% about trying to keep control of an entire industry in the hands of a very rich, very corrupt few.

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    1. Re:It's not about the money by jskora · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This has been proven over and over so many times, eventually someone in the courts should notice. SCO finally fell, unfortunately the RIAA has bigger war chests.

    2. Re:It's not about the money by philspear · · Score: 5, Funny

      Man, why is everyone always trying to be keeping a group of old, rich, litigious men down? They're just trying to make a few more hundred million dollars by screwing over the entire country, give them a break! I bet when YOU manage to get a monopoly stealing artist's rights, YOU'RE going to want to prosecute every teen who doesn't pay you a 200% markup!

    3. Re:It's not about the money by SL+Baur · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm not sure this is up there yet.

      They are definitely working on it. Read the deposition NYCL gave their "Expert" witness. http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2007/03/deposition-of-riaas-expert-available.html

      It's long, but it's awesome. I'm a programmer, not a lawyer, but after reading that deposition and all the stuff about "MediaDefender" I wonder why the RIAA has gotten as far as it has. If I were a judge my reaction to an RIAA lawsuit landing in my court would be more along the lines of uncontrolled laughter than anything else. I suppose that's why I'm a programmer, not a lawyer.

      Their methods are unsound and sooner or later those RIAA lawyers are going to get Jack Thompsoned.

    4. Re:It's not about the money by Samah · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ...those RIAA lawyers are going to get Jack Thompsoned.

      Best.
      Verb.
      Ever.

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  2. Let the punishment fit the crime. by Zaphod+The+42nd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What lawyer, where, thinks its a good idea to sue some lady for $222,000 for $23 worth of illegal filesharing? Its bad enough the RIAA tried it in the first place, but the court shot them down, and they're still at it? You'd think anybody with half a conscience would move on at this point.

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  3. Re:Why is this news... by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They're lawyers. They'd have the gall to shoot your mother, have sexual intercourse with her corpse, chop off her ears and send them to you along with an invoice for services rendered.

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  4. I love this excerpt: by Forty+Two+Tenfold · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The parties agree that the only evidence of actual dissemination of
    copyrighted works was that Plaintiffs' agent, MediaSentry, copied songs.
    Plaintiffs argue that even if distribution requires an actual transfer, the trial
    evidence established transfers of copyrighted works to MediaSentry. Thomas
    retorts that dissemination to an investigator acting as an agent for the copyright
    owner cannot constitute infringement.

    "It is well–established that the lawful owner of a copyright cannot infringe
    its own copyright."

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  5. Re:Why is this news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not so much. You should see the sorts of motions that are filed on a daily basis. If their attorneys did not file for such appeal, its not only bad strategy but missing such opportunities is the foundation of malpractice. That being said, the appellate courts have a rule (FRAP 37) that grants the courts power to sanction attorneys for frivolous appeals. Up to the point of FRAP 37 sanctions, it is normal to file as many motions as one has time to in major cases.

    Further - exhaustive motion practice is a legitimate strategy where Repeat Players (RIAA is regularly involved in litigation, and needs to be careful to "control" precedent) are up against One-Shot players (individuals who will only be involved in this sort of litigation once). The Repeat Player has extra incentive to invest in the litigation, and may overwhelm the incentive the One-Shot player has. It is for this reason that sanctions exist - courts may order attorney's fees awarded to a winning party where the losing party's conduct was vexatious or in bad faith.

    by the way - why on /. can i not post in firefox? seriously

  6. The real reason they're doing this by dkleinsc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This has nothing to do with expecting to win, and everything to do with attempting to run up the defendant's legal bills.

    A successful motion response to a similarly silly motion (at least in the State of New Hampshire), was the following letter:
    Honorable Justice ____:

    Plaintiff has got to be kidding.

    Respectfully submitted,
    ________ ________, Esq

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  7. Re:Why is this news... by Shikaku · · Score: 5, Funny

    HEY!

    My dad's a lawyer and my mom's dead..... Oh.

  8. Re:Why is this news... by Pervaricator+General · · Score: 5, Funny

    That explains why "Umbrella Corporation" is on your birth certificate...

  9. Technically, they are right. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The RIAA's claim that it's all about compensating the artists is indeed true.

    What they aren't saying is that it's all about compensating the con-artists. :)

  10. A little OT, but I have to say it by Weaselmancer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Thompson seemed to enjoy throwing around frivolous lawsuits as well.

    It hadn't really hit me until I saw this sentence with the word 'seem' in the past tense.

    Damn but that just looks beautiful. Thompson...seemed.

    It just hadn't hit me until right now that he's history. Jeez, but I hope I live long enough to say the same about the RIAA. "The RIAA seemed to like to file frivolous lawsuits."

    Ah, that's going to be great. Can't wait.

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  11. Re:Why WOULD the artists get this money? by FSWKU · · Score: 5, Informative

    That would be because the RIAA have been shouting from the mountaintops since the dawn of time that it's all about the artist. They want to stop filesharing because, according to them, it directly takes money away from the artists in the form of lost sales. Every single anti-P2P campaign you see from them is preaching the same thing. "Please don't hurt the poor artists."

    But in reality, they're just trying to line their own coffers. When someone settles for some outrageous fee, not a damned cent of that goes to "making the artist whole" or making up for their lost sales. Nope, it goes directly into either the lawyer's wallets or the legal war-chest. The artist continues to get screwed to the tune of pennies per album sold, and tough shit about those lost sales killing your already paltry (unless you're Metallica or some other hyper-famous act) royalty payments.

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  12. Re:What we need is... by Lobster+Quadrille · · Score: 5, Funny

    Somebody mod parent down. It obviously wouldn't work.

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