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Web Singletons?

tcmb writes "There are an uncounted number of web mail and picture sharing services, there are more than enough web sites for online bookmark management and friend-finding, but as far as I know there is only one Internet Archive. Which are the true web singletons, services that exist only once in this form?" And does anything approach the singular time-wasting abilities of IMDB or Wikipedia?

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  1. What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously what?

    1. Re:What? by Firehed · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well a singleton is a software design pattern designed to allow exactly zero or one instances of a class to exist (typically a database connection). But whoever thought the term applies to the services provided by web apps is just an idiot. Especially since as soon as anyone creates something new and vaguely useful, a dozen clones pop up within a week and do it better (though tend to fail anyways, since they never get the initial market share or publicity of the original - see: twitter). The only organizations that could create a "singleton" web app, if you really feel the need to misuse the term that thoroughly, are major patent trolls.

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    2. Re:What? by aegl · · Score: 2, Insightful
      "The only organizations that could create a "singleton" web app, if you really feel the need to misuse the term that thoroughly, are major patent trolls"

      Patent trolls don't create anything (except pain, suffering and economic hardship for their victims).

    3. Re:What? by Firehed · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well that's the beauty of the singleton design pattern - you can create exactly zero instances if you want. Which in the context of patent trolls is definitely a bad thing, but it still technically fits the misused term.

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    4. Re:What? by mollymoo · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well a singleton is a software design pattern designed to allow exactly zero or one instances of a class to exist (typically a database connection). But whoever thought the term applies to the services provided by web apps is just an idiot.

      The word "singleton" wasn't invented to describe the design pattern, douchebag. It means there is only one of something and is used correctly in TFS.

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    5. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/singleton

    6. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      He isn't a douchebag, just a simpleton.

    7. Re:What? by Minwee · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But whoever thought the term applies to the services provided by web apps is just an idiot.

      Some day, I'm going to have to introduce you to a new game called 'Bridge', something called 'set theory' or perhaps just to the concept of 'twins'. Then you might learn a few whole new meanings for that word and wonder why you were such an idiot about it before.

    8. Re:What? by AmberBlackCat · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The good part for the Internet Archive is they can't rip off the idea and do it better because they'd have to go back in time to get the data.

    9. Re:What? by therufus · · Score: 2, Funny

      Singleton is a township in the Hunter Valley region of New South Wales, Australia. Famous for its wineries and mining. It's a nice place. Friendly people. And it has one of the worlds largest sundials.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singleton,_New_South_Wales

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    10. Re:What? by roguetrick · · Score: 4, Insightful

      On the subject of patent trolls, Blackboard fits this, despite being such a horrible piece of crap.

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    11. Re:What? by daeg · · Score: 4, Funny

      (Archive the archive (the archive (the archive (the archive))))

    12. Re:What? by vegiVamp · · Score: 2, Funny

      so you mean he has zero or one brain cells ?

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    13. Re:What? by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

      Pandora has been archiving the australian web sites

      Both of them?

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    14. Re:What? by Hal_Porter · · Score: 3, Interesting

      http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/singleton

      singleton
      One entry found.

      Main Entry:
      sin*gle*ton
      Function:
      noun
      Etymology:
      French, from English single
      Date:
      1876
      1: a card that is the only one of its suit originally dealt to a player
      2 a: an individual member or thing distinct from others grouped with it b: an offspring born singly <singletons are more common than twins>

      I like the way MW has a joke for Singleton. If you look up other words with a single definition it doesn't say "one entry found".

      It reminds of the definition of recursive in the hacker's dictionary.

      http://www.ccil.org/jargon/jargon_33.html#TAG1486
      recursion /n./

      See recursion.

      Clearly both are an attempt at meta humour.

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    15. Re:What? by theaveng · · Score: 2, Informative

      How about the former DejaNews now renamed GoogleGroups? It allows posting to the Usenet without charge, and I'm not aware of any other service that allows free (key word) Usenet browsing/posting.

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    16. Re:What? by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 2, Insightful
      On the subject of patent trolls, Blackboard fits this, despite being such a horrible piece of crap.

      A-fucking-men to that chief. Blackboard is, bar none, the single nastiest most unintuitive piece of shit I have every had to deal with. It makes Lotus Notes circa 1995 look like genius. It makes Microsoft Clippy look like a good idea. I hate it. I want it gone. I would rather spend hours photocopying stuff and calculating grades by hand without a calculator than deal with that nasty piece of crap.

      RS

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  2. For timewasting by Finallyjoined!!! · · Score: 2, Informative
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    1. Re:For timewasting by Bryansix · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yep. That was a waste of time. Although it may contain the most euphemisms I've seen for vagina in a long time.

    2. Re:For timewasting by xaxa · · Score: 2

      I've seen someone driven to tears because someone else was reading out the jokes from that site.

      (There's taking the joke the wrong way, and then there's "fuck you all, I hate you, you don't know what you're making fun of, I was abused by my uncle when I was eight".)

    3. Re:For timewasting by Requiem18th · · Score: 3, Informative

      You are doing it wrong, think TV Tropes.

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  3. Zombo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Everyone knows about Zombo of course. You could waste hours there without even thinking about it.

    1. Re:Zombo by AM088 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Not singleton.

      Here's a clone: http://crotchzombie.com/

  4. There can be only one... by statemachine · · Score: 4, Funny

    Timecube.

    Unique and a waste of time.

    1. Re:There can be only one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wrong; not a singleton: http://www.thymecube.com/

  5. What site is this again? by John+Whitley · · Score: 5, Funny

    And does anything approach the singular time-wasting abilities of IMDB or Wikipedia?

    looks up at teh awesome bar (cough).

    looks at uid.

    sighs.

    1. Re:What site is this again? by Brad · · Score: 2, Funny

      It is one of those new-fangled words the youth use. See: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=yo

      Now, keep it down over there or I'll call the cops.

  6. Slashdot by zobier · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd say /. is relatively unique.

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    1. Re:Slashdot by moosesocks · · Score: 2, Funny

      Not true. Look at yesterday's slashdot.

      Odds are a number of today's stories are repeated on there.

      Therefore, slashdot is not a singleton.

      QED.

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  7. I hope it's unique! by techno-vampire · · Score: 5, Funny

    There's one site that I certainly hope is unique: goatse.cx.

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    1. Re:I hope it's unique! by Firehed · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Tubgirl, lemonparty, meatspin, 2G1C, etc. The implementation may vary a bit, but goatse certainly isn't the only shock site out there.

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    2. Re:I hope it's unique! by tsalmark · · Score: 5, Funny

      Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. I am not Googling meatspin.

    3. Re:I hope it's unique! by moosesocks · · Score: 2, Funny

      For what it's worth, it's almost exactly what it sounds like.

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  8. Re: "For large values of once" by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sorry AC.

    You missed http://www.obmoz.com/

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  9. Yeah, for time wasting by toby · · Score: 5, Funny

    You can't beat /.

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  10. Try Wikia by Haoie · · Score: 3, Informative

    A lot of stuff that doesn't quite make it onto the regular Wiki is found here.

    It also hosts some very concise, fictional world Wikis, like Wookiepedia [Star Wars]. and Memory Alpha [Star Trek].

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  11. Qik by CaptainTux · · Score: 3, Interesting

    www.qik.com allows you to stream live video and audio from your cell phone. As far as I know, it's the only service on the internet like this.

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  12. You mean like Google? by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm surprised no one else has tried to create a search engine for the internets...

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  13. Singletons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hear that eharmony is a good place to find singletons.

    1. Re:Singletons by nonewmsgs · · Score: 2, Funny

      eharmony gave me my free personality profile and told me "thanks, but no thanks...they don't have anyone to fit my unique characteristics." i was all well guess what match.com likes my money just fine. after a year and a half with no further progress i cancelled match, and respected eharmony more.

  14. Uh... by meeotch · · Score: 5, Funny

    And does anything approach the singular time-wasting abilities of IMDB or Wikipedia?

    You must be new here.

  15. TinEye.com by kinabrew · · Score: 4, Interesting

    TinEye.com is an image search engine that works like this:

    It analyzes images it finds online, by looking at their pixels and dimensions.

    To search, a user uploads an image, and TinEye returns a list of links to similar images, said images' dimensions, and links to the pages on which said images are posted.

    It's useful for finding originals from photoshopped images and for finding images in a series if you have only one image and know it's part of a series.

    And no, I don't work for them(but I do use the site almost daily).

  16. Nope, not google... by recharged95 · · Score: 2, Interesting
  17. Archive.org isn't unique by pasamio · · Score: 2, Informative

    Check out Australia's web archive run by the National Library of Australia: http://pandora.nla.gov.au/

    It may not be the same size yet, but many of the web app clones have the same issue as well. Its scope is also different as well - aiming at Australian content, but again many clones limit their scope as well.

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  18. OurCampaigns by Elder+Entropist · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Well, to toot my own horn:

    There are lots of political sites, but my site OurCampaigns is a bit different than anything out there.

    It is custom programmed and is a structured international view of politics at allows user contribution. Lot of current and historical race result data, going back hundreds of years. High level to local level. Right now a half million political races. News items, endorsements, candidate information, party information.

  19. Re:I'm Sorry, but . . . by treeves · · Score: 4, Funny
    Well yeah, because even if you win, you lose.

    Usually, I'd rather be right than happy.

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  20. Re:gnaa by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There is no shortage of idiots on the web.

  21. wheresgeorge.com by treeves · · Score: 4, Informative
    was/is probably a "singleton".

    I lost interest when it seemed like very few of the bills I entered were later tracked.

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  22. The grand-daddy of them all... by Nick+Driver · · Score: 4, Insightful
  23. Snopes by Darth+Cider · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Snopes.com is singular and good for wasting time.

  24. TV Tropes by roystgnr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And does anything approach the singular time-wasting abilities of IMDB or Wikipedia?

    Google for "TV Tropes". No, I'm not giving you a URL. If I had to go find the URL, I might accidentally look at the URL. And then I'd end up clicking some of the links there. But there's no way to read through a Trope page without being curious enough to click on at least two of the links there, and then two of the links on each of those, and then... well, I just put dinner in the oven and I do not want to suddenly snap out of a fascinated reverie an hour from now when the smoke from my kitchen burning down reminds me that I'm starving.

  25. Which twitter? by tepples · · Score: 3, Funny

    Especially since as soon as anyone creates something new and vaguely useful, a dozen clones pop up within a week and do it better (though tend to fail anyways, since they never get the initial market share or publicity of the original - see: twitter).

    Are you talking about the microblogging service with a dozen clones or the Slashdot poster with a dozen clones?

  26. Re:SourceForge by xaxa · · Score: 2, Informative

    SourceForge stands pretty much singular in its function.

    Um... Freshmeat.net?

  27. One, One, One by icepick72 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Singleton:
    - a single object (as distinguished from a pair)
    - a set containing a single member
    - In mathematics, a singleton is a set with exactly one element. For example, the set {0} is a singleton.

    One good reason for finding "singletons" on the web (unique web properties) might be to find an entry point for competition where the market is not yet saturated. At the same time it's often hard to compete against something that's firmly established (e.g. David and Goliath). Maybe submitter has a obsessive compulsive disorder and feels a strong need to find one of everything on the web. Speculation. Maybe I'm a jackass.

  28. Time-wasting singleton? by actionbastard · · Score: 3, Funny

    "And does anything approach the singular time-wasting abilities of IMDB or Wikipedia?"
    This does -idle.slashdot.org.

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  29. space-time continuum monitoring by sugarmotor · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There is only one space-time continuum monitoring service, http://space-time.net/

    Stephan

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  30. Re:gnaa by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There is no shortage of idiots.

    Fixed that for you.

  31. Re:Here's a semi-unique time waster for 'ya ... by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Singletons are the loneliest objects that I've ever seen...
    Factories can be as bad as a Singletons
    They're the loneliest objects since the Singleton

    False is the saddest value that you'll ever know,
    True, it's the saddest value that you'll ever know...

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  32. LHC destruction monitor by ninjapiratemonkey · · Score: 5, Funny

    AFAIK, this is the only site which will tell you if the LHC has destroyed the world yet. You can waste hours of time by checking it frequently, making sure that you're not dead yet! http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/ and the source is fairly humourous as well.

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  33. Re:I'm Sorry, but . . . by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wives tend to do that.
    Win, I mean.

    They do if you have any sense.

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  34. No, no, you got it wrong by omuls+are+tasty · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's "fool me once, shame on... shame on you; fool me you can't get fooled again".

  35. How about... by cfl · · Score: 2, Funny

    http://www.palinaspresident.com/

    I've been back to visit it every day for entertainment and don't know of anything like it :)

  36. Singletons? by macraig · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can honestly say that I know quite a few web simpletons, but no singletons.

  37. Everything? by Leto-II · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Time wasters?

    How about slashdot's sister site, everything2?

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  38. Re:Here's a semi-unique time waster for 'ya ... by stiller · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, it was first recorded by Three Dog Night in 1969 and written by Harry Nilsson. allmusic

  39. Things that should be a single authoritative site by Confuse+Ed · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There are quite a few situations where life would be simpler if there were just one definitive instance of something - mostly indexes / official repositories of some kind, but sadly at the moment we have a multitude of these things with no single instance providing 100% coverage :

      - Airline flight schedules : presumably every airline has planned its timetable months in advance, but there is no obvious place to search across all of them (cf. www.nationalrail.co.uk which I think does have the authoritative timetable across all mainline railways)

      - List of all properties for sale in the country; in the UK the seller has to choose which estate agents to list with, and the buyer then has to go around a load of different agents to find out what's available. It'd seem obvious for this to instead be a nationalized thing - what added value do estate agents / letting introduction agencies provide anyway? (as distinct from letting agencies that also do some property management)

      - Web Search : there is scope for different search-engines to provide fundamentally different types of search (ie. text, image, audio etc) : but why do we need more than one of each type?

      - Scientific Journals : pre-print servers (arXiv.org) are starting to solve this problem, but lots of papers still get published in obscure / less-popular journals and if your university library doesn't subscribe to that one then you can't easily read it - and once you leave university they become pretty much unavailable to the average member of the public.

    Pretty much all the things I can think of that would be better as a single instance have the problem that they are run commercially - so there are problems with monopolies if we ever get just one of them, and the tin-foil-hat brigade might have something to say if they were nationalized (and in many cases could just be right too : imagine if our primary news outlet were government controlled)

    Free stuff seems to find its own level of singleton-like-ness, some keeping just one instance :
      - IMDB, CPAN, w3c.org, ....
    others forking to meet differing preferences like linux distributions, tech news website etc.

  40. Singular? by Wolfger · · Score: 2, Funny

    "does anything approach the singular time-wasting abilities of IMDB or Wikipedia?"

    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

    By listing two sites with this "time-wasting ability", you have proven two things:
    1) That it's not singular
    2) That you have a poor grasp of English

    Plus I think way more people waste their time on Slashdot.