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Oil-Immersion Cooled PC Goes To Retail

notthatwillsmith writes "Everyone's seen mods where someone super-cools a PC by submersing it in a non-conductive oil. It's a neat idea, but most components aren't designed to withstand a hot oil bath; after prolonged exposure materials break down and components begin to fail. Maximum PC has an exclusive hands-on, first look at the new Hardcore Computer Reactor, the first oil-cooled PC available for sale. Hardcore engineered the Reactor to withstand the oil, using space-age materials and proprietary oil. The Reactor's custom-manufactured motherboard, videocards, memory, and SSD drives are submersed in the oil, while the dry components sit outside the bulletproof tank. The motherboard lifts out of the oil bath on rails, giving you relatively easy access to components, and the overall design is simply jaw-dropping. Of course, we'd expect nothing less for a machine with a base price of $4000 that goes all the way up to $11k for a fully maxed out config."

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  1. Hmm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    There is a joke involving Natalie Portman and hot oil here, but I just can't quite find it :(

    1. Re:Hmm. by Shaitan+Apistos · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Too close to 4:33, try again at 10:04.

  2. Re:so much for quick repair by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    Did you even glance at the summary before you started typing?

    "Everyone's seen mods where someone super-cools a PC by submersing it in a non-conductive oil. It's a neat idea, but most components aren't designed to withstand a hot oil bath; after prolonged exposure materials break down and components begin to fail. Maximum PC has an exclusive hands-on, first look at the new Hardcore Computer Reactor, the first oil-cooled PC available for sale. Hardcore engineered the Reactor to withstand the oil, using space-age materials and proprietary oil. The Reactor's custom-manufactured motherboard, videocards, memory, and SSD drives are submersed in the oil, while the dry components sit outside the bulletproof tank. The motherboard lifts out of the oil bath on rails, giving you relatively easy access to components, and the overall design is simply jaw-dropping. Of course, we'd expect nothing less for a machine with a base price of $4000 that goes all the way up to $11k for a fully maxed out config."

  3. Re:Bulletproof? by CaptainPatent · · Score: 5, Funny

    They're trying to appeal to two growing demographics: hardcore gaming mobsters and gangsta autocad designers

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  4. Re:Bulletproof? by afidel · · Score: 5, Informative

    They probably mean bullet resistant aka Lexan.

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  5. Re:Thanks God by frosty_tsm · · Score: 5, Funny

    When I am web surfing and playing solitaire, I can't afford to have my CPU or graphics card overheat. And don't even get me started on email.

    You're using Vista, aren't you.

  6. if you buy an oil immersion pc by circletimessquare · · Score: 5, Funny

    your money goes to support vladimir putin, hugo chavez and saudi wahabbism

    do the patriotic thing and buy a domestic american wind immersion pc

    and if you aren't in an area where a wind immersion pc is practical, follow t boone pickens' lead and get yourself a natural gas immersed pc

    eh... on second thought, maybe not such a good idea, a natural gas immersed pc, heh

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  7. Here's their patent claim by Animats · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's the main claim from the patent:
    7,414,845 Attlesey, et al. August 19, 2008
    Circuit board assembly for a liquid submersion cooled electronic device

    1. A liquid submersion cooled computer, comprising:

    • a case having a liquid-tight interior space;
    • a lid removably connected to the case for closing a top of the interior space,
    • the lid including at least one pass-through connector;
    • a motherboard disposed in the interior space and attached to the lid,
    • the motherboard having a top end with electrical contacts engaged with the pass-through connector that permits inputs/outputs and/or power to be passed to the motherboard;
    • a plurality of components mounted on the motherboard, including one or more of a plurality of processors,
    • a plurality of memory cards,
    • a plurality of graphics cards, and a plurality of power supplies;
    • a dielectric cooling liquid within the interior space and submerging at least one of the components on the motherboard so as to be in direct contact therewith;
    • and an impingement cooling system that includes a plurality of tubes for directing a flow of the dielectric cooling liquid directly onto two or more of the plurality of components.

    The only novelty here seems to be in putting the connectors in the removable lid.

    Incidentally, the cooling liquid isn't an "oil" at all. It's one of 3M's Novec engineered fluids, probably HFE-7500, which is 3-ethoxy-1,1,1,2,3,4,4,5,5,6,6,6-dodecafluoro-2-trifluoromethyl-hexane. It's usable for cooling up to 150C, nonflammable, does not irritate skin, does not contribute to global warming, ozone depletion, or smog, and the MSDS even says "Ingestion: no health effects are expected". 3M developed it as a replacement for PCBs and perfluorocarbons like Fluorinert. So it can be used safely by the idiots who overclock.

  8. Fallacy: oil based PCs don't break down over time by NotInfinitumLabs · · Score: 5, Informative

    It was thought that the mineral oil on these PCs would eat at the Rubber seals or the contacts on the motherboard and cause the PC to fail over time. This isn't true. Here's a link to the year-after report on a oil-based PC that Puget Systems built: http://www.pugetsystems.com/submerged.php#update3

    The most important part:
    "# There is no sign of weakening of rubber seals or PCB. We have found that prolonged exposure to mineral oil does not eat away at any components. However, you will notice in the pictures that the voltage module for the LED light has fallen down. That module was stuck in place with nothing more than a sticker -- it took 9 months for it to come down! We're amazed it stayed up that long, but definitely recommend you do not rely on stickers or tape to fasten anything. Zip ties will be more solid and long lasting."

  9. Open-source the oil! by GFree678 · · Score: 5, Funny

    proprietary oil

    Can we demand an open-source version of the oil for us hardcore geeks?

  10. Re:Bulletproof? by MentlFlos · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bulletproof? Seriously?

    Yes, but only for very small values of bullet

  11. Re: My only question... by Linker3000 · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, it runs SL/IX and the main processor is made by Texaco Instruments.

    There is a shell scripting language but the interface is a bit crude.

    There will be a Mobil Computing version next year.

    I'll stop now.

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  12. Re:Bulletproof? by Dogtanian · · Score: 5, Funny

    They're trying to appeal to two growing demographics: hardcore gaming mobsters and gangsta autocad designers

    They're trying to appeal to the Scots- we'll deep-fry anything!

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  13. Re:Pointless waste of money by toiletsalmon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thanks. That was perfect:

    First off, the summary reads like a press release, as does TFA, is Slashdot that desperate for cash these days? Secondly, the $ITEM itself seems like a pretty useless gimmick.

    I don't understand who is supposed to be buying this thing at $LOWPRICE-$HIPRICE.
    Hardcore $HOBBY? OK the thing has excellent $FEATURE, but not much better than you could achieve with a decent $COMPETE_TECH $ITEM at a fraction of the price. This group will be put off by the proprietry(and probably overpriced)upgrades and the difficulty of actually $MAINTENANCE the thing, not to mention the pricetag.
    $HOBBY2? Why would they pay this much over the odds for a $ITEM that's at best $PERCENT_BETTER% $VERB than a commodity $ITEM? Again, this group will be put off by the lack of a decent $ALTERNATIVE.
    $HOBBY3? This group might be interested at first, the one thing an $ITEM might arguably be useful for is $FEATURE. But at $LOWPRICE+, you've got to be joking, there are already very good solutions at a fraction of that price.

    Ultimately I just don't see any need for this kind of $ITEM, $ITEM's just don't $BEHAVIOR that it's worth dealing with the hassle. ;)

  14. Re:Bulletproof? by Martin+Blank · · Score: 5, Funny

    Isn't most of your cuisine based on dares anyway?

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  15. Re:Bulletproof? by MadMidnightBomber · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I spent a year at University of Edinburgh, and I can tell you the parent should be modded informative, not funny.

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