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Wikipedia's New Definition of Truth

Hugh Pickens writes "Simson Garfinkel has an interesting essay on MIT Technology Review in which he examines the way that Wikipedia has redefined the commonly accepted use of the word 'truth.' While many academic experts have argued that Wikipedia's articles can't be trusted because they are written and edited by volunteers who have never been vetted, studies have found that the articles are remarkably accurate. 'But wikitruth isn't based on principles such as consistency or observability. It's not even based on common sense or firsthand experience,' says Garfinkel. What makes a fact or statement fit for inclusion is verifiability — that it appeared in some other publication, but there is a problem with appealing to the authority of other people's written words: many publications don't do any fact checking at all, and many of those that do simply call up the subject of the article and ask if the writer got the facts wrong or right. Wikipedia's policy of 'No Original Research' also leads to situations like Jaron Lanier's frustrated attempts to correct his own Wikipedia entry based on firsthand knowledge of his own career. So what is Wikipedia's truth? 'Since Wikipedia is the most widely read online reference on the planet, it's the standard of truth that most people are implicitly using when they type a search term into Google or Yahoo. On Wikipedia, truth is received truth: the consensus view of a subject.'"

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  1. Ob simpsons quote by genner · · Score: 4, Funny

    Don't you worry about Wikipedia we'll change it when we get home. We'll change a lot of things.

  2. 2+2 by oldhack · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Even 2+2 is 4 only if everyone agrees". Sum like that.

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  3. We can only hope... by Deag · · Score: 4, Funny

    That slashdot isn't considered some other publication.

  4. Simson Garfinkel by drquoz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Simson Garfinkel? You mean that singing duo?

  5. Seriously, Wikipedia? by jdgeorge · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wikipedia provides the new standard of "truth"?

    We all know that nothing is "true" until it has been posted on Slashdot. Jimbo Wales is fit to polish Commander Taco's sneakers.

  6. You shouldn't trust wikipedia! by mcgrew · · Score: 1, Funny
    Use the uncyclopedia instead. Wikipedia is lacking in many respects:
    1. Wikipedia's incomplete. For instance, nothing whatever about Kitten Huffing
    2. They're inaccurate. For instance, Wikipedia's entry on black holeslacks Jack Thompson's observation that "They suck more than I do", God's observation that "Black holes are simply where I decided to divide by zero", Steven hawking's observation that "Originally, Black Holes were known as 'Gravitationally Collapsed Stars" and Oscar Wilde's observation that "I'm going to stick something in there and see what happens".
    3. Your mom likes uncyclopedia... when she's not flat on her back
    4. better writing
    5. No trolls
    6. Wikipedia doesn't quote Oscar Wilde, unless of course you look up Oscar Wilde.
  7. Calling Captain Kirk... by One+Louder · · Score: 4, Funny

    So, if somebody creates a Wikipedia article called "Everything on Wikipedia is a Lie ", will it start arguing with itself, then explode?

  8. Irrelevant by Yvan256 · · Score: 3, Funny

    We all know that the The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is the standard repository of all knowledge and wisdom.

    So, unless Wikipedia adds a huge DON'T PANIC header to their website, I won't be using it.

  9. Re:Truth... by Kjella · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wikipedia: Where persistent opinions are correct opinions.

    There, fixed that for you.

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  10. Re:philosophically groundless criticism by Surt · · Score: 3, Funny

    all media is suspect, anywhere. you go through life with a good bullshit meter, or you don't go through life at all.

    Or you go through life anyway, and vote republican.

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  11. Re:Food for Thought by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Expect that it's wrong

    That's what I usually do while reading Slashdot.

  12. I don't believe it.... by Urger · · Score: 2, Funny

    {{Citation Needed}}

  13. Re:Help change Wikipedia for the better (seriously by Onaga · · Score: 3, Funny

    Please strike a blow AGAINST deletionism.

    I prefer to think of it as Intelligent Editing.

  14. Re:Truth... by TiggertheMad · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wikipedia: Where persistent opinions are correct opinions.

    There, fixed that for you


    Don't bother, the OP will just revert it...

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  15. Whatever dude, WP doesn't do definitions by xant · · Score: 2, Funny

    Perhaps what you really want to know is how Wiktionary defines truth.

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  16. Re:Verifiability, not truth by nine-times · · Score: 2, Funny

    The Wikipedia is about the search for verifiable fact... not truth. If it's truth you're looking for, Dr. Tyree's philosophy class is right down the hall.

  17. This article may contain original research... by bruce_garrett · · Score: 5, Funny

    No...what blew my mind was seeing that "This article or section may contain original research or unverified claims", disclaimer at the top of the article page. In the context of this discussion that's pretty hilarious...

  18. Re:Food for Thought by fractalrock · · Score: 3, Funny

    Argumentum ad populum ... yes that's a wikipedia link; did I just blow your mind a little?

    I'm not sure. Can I ask around?