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OpenOffice.org V3.0 Sets Download Record, 80% Windows

thefickler writes "The newest version of OpenOffice, version 3.0, has set a download record in its first week of availability. Most surprising is the fact that over 80% of downloads were from Windows users. As one commentator noted, when it comes to a choice between almost identical software (e.g. Microsoft Office and OpenOffice), price is the determining factor."

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  1. Package Managers? by QBasicer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The question here is do the download numbers also reflect copies downloaded with package managers such in Linux distros such as Gentoo and Ubuntu, or does it only count people that only actually go to the webpage to download? The way Windows users and Linux users tend to get software these days tends to be a little different, where windows users expect going to the website, downloading, and using an something like Install Shield to install.

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    1. Re:Package Managers? by RiotingPacifist · · Score: 5, Informative

      while gentoo may have an openoffice 'overlay'(not a gentoo user so that may be the wrong term) most ubuntu users will have to download the deb manually (either from here or a third party repo (cant think of any for ubuntu) or wait for 9.04

      oh and from TFA

      Only 221,000 downloads by Linux users were recorded, leading John McCreesh, head of marketing for OpenOffice.org, to suggest a massive undercount. McCreesh said 90% of Linux users traditionally receive OpenOffice.org updates straight from their Linux distribution's vendor, which would explain the relatively low Linux count.

      but that would still give windows >66% (assuming os x makes up 0%, which is possible due to neo office)

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    2. Re:Package Managers? by niskel · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's in Gentoo; I have been using it for a few days...

    3. Re:Package Managers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's in Gentoo; I have been compiling it for a few days...

      There, fixed it for you

    4. Re:Package Managers? by De+Lemming · · Score: 5, Interesting

      (assuming os x makes up 0%, which is possible due to neo office)

      Now that OpenOffice has native support for OS X, I switched from NeoOffice to OpenOffice 3. I don't see the need anymore for an extra layer above the original software, and releases which lag behind those of OpenOfiice. I suspect a lot of Mac users are doing the same.

    5. Re:Package Managers? by porl · · Score: 5, Funny

      nonsense. there is no such thing as binary packages for gentoo... it's a myth and you know it. i'll have you stop perpetuating those lies right away if you please.

      porl

  2. 80% by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why is 80% surprising? The article makes it sound like that's high, but Windows has more than 80% of the desktop market, so it's still a lower percentage.

    1. Re:80% by Niten · · Score: 5, Informative

      First off, we really shouldn't count Macs as part of the equation. I haven't checked recently, but for a long time, OOo's support for MacOS X lagged way, way behind. It was essentially unusable.

      No, we have to count Macs. One of the big bullet points on the OpenOffice 3 release notes was its new native Aqua support on OS X.

  3. Price a determinating factor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    People don't want to spend money on something they can get for free? That's amazing! Seriously, I know I'm not working at the only company that is getting ready to dump Microsoft Office. It's pretty sad when you realize that the vast majority of your workers would be happier going from Office 2003 to OpenOffice than going to Office 2007.

  4. "Almost Identical"? by coryking · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is that like saying a cordless phone and a cell phone is *almost* identical because they both make phone calls?

    Or did I just get trolled by the summary?

    1. Re:"Almost Identical"? by CSMatt · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You have a point. I would conjecture that the dissimilarities of OpenOffice.org and Microsoft Office 2007 are one of the driving factors in OpenOffice.org's adoption.

  5. Almost identical? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've been scorched before on slashdot for praising MSOffice, but again I beg to disagree that this is a "choice between almost identical software".
    The functionality, features and ease of use of MSOffice (as compared to Open Office) still make it far superior.
    Particularly, the new interface of MSOffice makes it much easier and intuitive to use (for most users) compared to any other office automation software.

  6. Re:I haven't got it yet, not in repository yet. by CSMatt · · Score: 5, Informative

    You'll be waiting a while. Ubuntu won't have OO.o 3 until next April.

    Long story short: upstream delays made it miss the Intrepid feature freeze.

  7. PPC-based Mac users have to wait too by Shin-LaC · · Score: 5, Informative

    For some reason, OO.o isn't providing a PowerPC build of OpenOffice 3.0 in English. You can get 3.0 in French or Japanese, but the latest English build is 2.4. During development of 3.0, PPC builds have been provided by a third party, but they seem to have stopped at 3.0rc4. I wonder why.

  8. Re:Does this beat Firefox's record by Firewing1 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Nope - Firefox had roughly 8 million downloads in a single day, versus the 3 million OO.o 3.0 downloads in the first week.

  9. Apathy trumps price for most users by celest · · Score: 5, Interesting

    when it comes to a choice between almost identical software (e.g. Microsoft Office and OpenOffice), price is the determining factor.

    Actually, I'm currently doing my Master's thesis on this exact topic, namely the switching barriers between Microsoft Office and OpenOffice.org. I'll post a summary of the full empirically assessed results to Slashdot when the study is complete. Currently, however, it looks like that Apathy is a much stronger factor than price. In fact, the author of the article hints at this:

    In the past, it's always been included on my computers which is fine

    Another important factor which I have hypothesized (and the literature suggests is accurate) trumps price is user inconvenience. Most users will pay to avoid hassle of any sorts. Further, most users will pay to avoid PERCEIVED inconvenience, even if, in reality, there would be no inconvenience. The FEAR of inconvenience is enough to make them continue to pay.

    If you would like more details about my empirical research on this subject, feel free to contact me. A paper on the subject will be published by the Open Source Business Resource in the spring.

  10. Insensitive clods by Charles+Dodgeson · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm an English speaking PPC OS X user, you insensitive clod. I finally gave up waiting and grabbed the Spanish language version. But there still in no English version for OS X on the PowerPC.

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  11. Re:Almost identical? Not quite. (MOD PARENT UP) by kklein · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People are going to flame you and call you stupid, so let me just head off some of their inevitable criticisms:

    You should have checked!

    No, you shouldn't have had to have checked. Besides, this assumes that you still have to have MS Office and OO.o, and isn't the whole point of this bru-ha-ha to say that you don't need MS Office if you have the free and wonderful OO.o? No, Word did not screw up your CV. OO.o does not export to Word correctly. It's OO.o's responsibility to properly support the de facto industry standard.

    You should have sent a PDF!

    Okay, smart guys, you try sending PDFs instead of Word documents. There are still lots of moronic HR departments (well, are there any other kind?) who don't even know what they are. The first time I started sending those, I got a call back from an angry HR person saying "We don't take scanned CVs!" I was honestly confused. "I'm sorry, but that is just a PDF of my CV. It's not scanned." "We have to be able to search the text. Please send us the original Word document."

    Well you know, and I know that you can very well search the text of a PDF, but that isn't the point; the point is whether HR knows, and, as I think I've already established, those people are borderline retarded.

    Also, a lot of places actually request .docs. If OO.o can't produce them correctly, then you look like an idiot. In my case in the above story, where I was requested to send a .doc? It meant I had to get ahold of MS Office, because I'd been using (and liking) OO.o for a year. Hell, the next problem I had was that I had my "letterhead" in my header in Word, and an HR guy called me complaining that I'd used a "gray font," and that it was no wonder I didn't have a job if I didn't know how to format a Word document correctly. "It's conventional to make your name and address legibile to the person looking at your CV," he said. So I went back and reformatted all of that stuff by hand, like an idiot who can't use software. In all of these cases, I did the right thing. In none of these cases was the company itself really to blame. They might have been nice places to work. But when you're applying for a job, you first have to get through the imbeciles in HR who stand guard at the gate. Anything that they don't understand--and that's a lot, it turns out--is going to get your CV tossed in the bin.

    Why would you want to work somewhere that wants .docs and doesn't worship at the throne of OSS???

    Because he needs a job so he can, you know, eat.

    OO.o is damn nice for being free, and I really liked some of its features that are missing in Office. But, in all honestly, Office does more better and is the industry standard.

    And finally, to all the people going on about having to pay for PDF export? Um, sourceforge up yourself some PDFcreator. It's free. I've been using it for years without issue.

  12. Re:Something better than OOo by beav007 · · Score: 5, Funny

    what-you-see-is-a-bit-like-what-you'll-get editor

    That's better than the WYSIWTF that Frontpage managed...