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Nintendo's Homebrew-Blocking Update Hacked
ElementC writes "Team Twiizers, the group behind almost all of the Wii Homebrew scene, has released an update to the Homebrew Channel (and installer) that allows for installation on a Wii with the most recent update installed. While the team still recommends against installing the Nintendo update, those who accidentally updated or purchase games that require the update are no longer left out to dry. This update to the Homebrew Channel also adds SDHC support, a feature Nintendo has not implemented in vanilla Wiis. The community has also created an app that updates just the Wii Shop Channel — allowing users to purchase Wiiware and Virtual Console games without losing their homebrew. It took the team only two days to get the fix out."
Like when Nintendo doesn't condone it, but leave little bits of stuff "open" for someone to find and break to keep a scene healthy?
Task Mangler
Insert obligatory "the more you tighten your grip....etc.
"I might have made a tactical error in not going to a physician for 20 years." -- Warren Zevon
Both Wii homebrew users are reported to be delighted.
The biggest news out of the whole thing for me is that they have added SDHC support through a _channel_ in the Wii dashboard. People have been speculating why the Wii would not support SDHC and if it was some hardware limitation...well, it seems like it isn't. Which really makes me wonder why Nintendo has not added it, yet...in this day and age it's almost getting hard to find a non-SDHC card...
Seriously...WTF. This isn't the first time some 3rd party tool squeezes more functionality out of hardware. But this should really be a no-brainer to implement for the big N.
I feel sorry for Nintendo on this one.
That's nice. I'm sure profitable corporations need your sympathy.
The console is about as cheap as they get, and Nintendo put an incredible amount of research and effort into making the best games in the world. When do you folk feel a bit ethically obliged to let the company just make some money out of the good work they've done.
Nintendo sell the console at a profit. They make money off anyone who buys one, including the homebrewers. Anyway, Nintendo don't lease you a wii under a signed contract, they sell you one in a shop. Therefore, aren't they ethically obliged (not to mention legally) to let you do with it what you wish?
Secondly, the because its there argument. I cracked games in the past, way back in the days of C-64, All those Block executes on track 5 sector 5 etc. But I didn't distribute - I cracked it cause it was fun to do and for my own benefit - I didn't want to get in trouble, or ruin those software companies.
My goodness, not only did you not read the article, or summary, you also failed to even read the article title. NB: Home-brew.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
The console is about as cheap as they get, and Nintendo put an incredible amount of research and effort into making the best games in the world. When do you folk feel a bit ethically obliged to let the company just make some money out of the good work they've done.
Nintendo makes about $50 on each Wii, compare that to MS and Sony who lose money whenever a 360 or PS3 is bought. Plus, most homebrewers are exactly that, homebrewers, this isn't a 1337 W@r3z h@ck either, its simply homebrew.
Thirdly Nintendo may not have deliberately broken the previous hacks anyway. All they did was release a new binary and the compiled code moved a bit in memory. I think a little too much credit may be being given here.
Ah, yes, because there was so much else in that update. Oh and never mind the fact that it searched for modified saves and deleted them, that's certainly not intentional.
Taxation is legalized theft, no more, no less.
Who said anything about cracked or pirate games? This is about installing homebrew and open source software on a hardware platform which has been paid for by the consumer who bought it - and Nintendo are not selling Wii's at a loss like Sony's PS3.
When do you folk feel a bit ethically obliged to let the company just make some money
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The console is about as cheap as they get, and Nintendo put an incredible amount of research and effort into making the best games in the world. When do you folk feel a bit ethically obliged to let the company just make some money out of the good work they've done.
Err, I really like Nintendo, I really like the Wii, and I'd really like some of what you were smoking.
1) The console price hasn't gone down AT ALL since it was released almost two years ago. Compare that to the prices of the PS3 or Xbox360 during the same timeframe. Also compare it to the fact that the Xbox360 is now way cheaper than the Wii while being much, much faster.
2) The last few months there were nothing but half-assed games coming out for the Wii, especially from Nintendo. I don't see "the best games in the world" anymore, anywhere. Think back to the last Nintendo press conference and tell me you were really positively surprised with what they came up with.
3) The Homebrew Channel can do a lot, but what it can't do is play Wii games off of burned discs. You still need a modchip for that. You can play copied WiiWare games, but team Twiizers officially denounces warez. They're doing it to open up the platform itself, not to open it up for the warez kids.
Check this article to find out why this is not really surprising.
Yup, that is indeed Nintendo featuring on TheDailyWTF.
Every expression is true, for a given value of 'true'
People don't buy $250 systems just to play homebrew. Conversely, people that already have the system will dabble in homebrew to increase the value of their hardware, and allow it to do things it couldn't otherwise (like play Monkey Island, or watch DVDs).
If Nintendo is smart, they will put of a token fight - mainly to stay within contractual obligations with their game developing partners and keep them happy - while leaving plenty of loopholes for homebrew to exist. Best of both worlds for all involved.
Better known as 318230.
SFA was developed by Rare, not Nintendo. It also came out 5 years ago for the Gamecube. Would you care to try again, or is that really the best excuse you can come up with?
DRM does not work.
Mathematically speaking.
Come on, I think I will make my children write a thousand times on a blackboard "DRM does not work", so at least _they_ won't bother trying when they grow up.
Even when they secure the path all the way from the UV-ray disc to each dot in the LCD/plasma/OLED display in 2038, all one needs to get the color of each pixel with greater than 99.999% accuracy is half a dozen US$ 100 cheap cameras, some tripods and a calibrating movie... [and a 64-bit timestamp :-)]
It's better to be the foot on the boot than the face on the pavement. ~~ tkx Kadin2048
Uhm, for the hardware you get, it's actually rather overpriced (Nintendo makes a nice profit from each console sold). Also, the topic is about running homebrew software, not necessarily about running pirated games. (Yes, I know a lot of people will use it to do just that).
This is decidedly not true; they add code that specifically fixes the symptoms (current exploits against known holes), but not the real cause (horribly broken usage and implementations of crypto/hashing/signing algorithms, among others). This is why new cracks typically appear within a day or two. Putting in such code, however, can hardly be designated "accidental". Please do a little fact-checking next time.
Every expression is true, for a given value of 'true'
why support these companies that support DRM?? when MS or walmart use DRM there's a /. nerd outcry, but when apple or Nintendo do it it's ok because we can crack it?? news flash retards, ALL drm is crackable because it's a broken strategy
If you mod me down, I will become more powerful than you can imagine....
1) Probably because they haven't managed to slow down. Only an idiot would lower prices during high demand. 1b) False. The real 360 is still the Premium or Elite. The core is basically worthless, so the real price of the 360 is still 300+$. You can't even make use of most of the new dashboard without a 512MB card or a HDD.
You should do research before opening your mouth, the October 23 system update did infact *deliberately* break existing homebrew for the simple fact that ~90% of it was patches for a bug in the Wii's IOS modules (firmware of sorts) that most homebrew application exploit in order to install content to the Wii's NAND (filesystem). Additionally the update blocks direct access to the Wii's NAND for most IOS modules, an attempt to stop people dumping the contents of their Wii's.
Most of the update (as with the previous one) are direct attacks against (the use of) homebrew, the fact that Team Twiizers managed to find new exploits in mere days just goes to show how incredibly skilled they really are.
I think not enough credit is given here.
Sources:
- http://wii.marcansoft.com/wiimpersonator/reports/20081023-031234.log
- http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/Wii_System_Updates
I'm all for home-brew, and Nintendo trying to block it is one thing (a bad thing imho).
Whether or not they make a profit on each unit sold is another thing. You can't criticise a business for turning a profit on the products it sells just because its competitors are daft enough to sell at a loss!
Invaders must die
Anything that opens up the Wii platform is good news, so a hearty cheer from me.
If Nintendo created a proper home-brew platform, making it easier and cheaper to make small games and apps, the Wii could become a killer home entertainment platform (especially if they add DVD and local storage support). Something along the lines of the iPhone/Android apps store, where you can sell cheap games and they take a small cut. Currently the selection on WiiWare is pretty limited unless you want old NES games.
If they did that, I'd become a Wii developer overnight.
Paul Leader
Microsoft reported they were breaking even on the 360s, I think sometime near the end of last year. They might even be profitable now. Not sure about the PS3, but it has been shockingly expensive here in Scandinavia for a long time.
Of course, that probably means Nintendo are closer to $100 profit per console by now :)=
Nintendo put an incredible amount of research and effort into making the best games in the world. When do you folk feel a bit ethically obliged to let the company just make some money out of the good work they've done.
How does allowing me to run my own software on hardware I have purchased prevent Nintendo from making money? In fact, it makes me more likely to buy the console. At the moment I don't have a Wii - if it were possible to run Linux on it I would buy one and it would become my MythTV frontend. So they would make more money since they would have another customer. At the same time, because I would then have a Wii, I would buy games for it, so they would make more money. By preventing me using the hardware how I like, they have reduced the value of the Wii to the point where I cannot justify the cost of buying one. Forgive me for saying, but doing whatever you can to reduce the value of your product doesn't seem to be a bright marketing strategy.
http://blog.nexusuk.org
I had no interest in hacking my wii until I heard they had blocked it. That got me looking into homebrew and then I found mplayer for wii. That night I went out and bought a sdcard reader for my computer and installed the homebrew channel on my wii.
...The console price hasn't gone down AT ALL since it was released almost two years ago. Compare that to the prices of the PS3 or Xbox360 during the same timeframe. Also compare it to the fact that the Xbox360 is now way cheaper than the Wii while being much, much faster.
As far as the Xbox/PS3 vs. Wii, it ALL depends on what kind of gamer you are. We all know that hardcore gamers aren't snapping up Wii consoles for all-night fragfests. Different gaming niches altogether.
As far as the price tag, Finance 101 my friend. They keep the quantities on the shelf low to generate some hype, and come out with some quirky "game" (WiiFit) every now and then to generate more hype to keep demand up. And Wii games aren't exactly contenders for Game of the Year, again niche market.
If YOU were selling a product with that kind of demand, I'd think "price reduction" would be in 99th place on the list of Marketing priorities while you cruise around on your private jet.
What would happen if the Wii's price was reduced? You would get more demand is what. And I don't think Nintendo would want more demand as there is enough of it already, what with the machine being sold faster than they can produce.
"Nintendo sell the console at a profit. They make money off anyone who buys one, including the homebrewers. Anyway, Nintendo don't lease you a wii under a signed contract, they sell you one in a shop. Therefore, aren't they ethically obliged (not to mention legally) to let you do with it what you wish?"
They sell their product for profit?!!! The scoundrels! Because, you know, most successful companies just give their stuff away.
"Anyway, Nintendo don't lease you a wii under a signed contract, they sell you one in a shop. Therefore, aren't they ethically obliged (not to mention legally) to let you do with it what you wish?"
No, not when what you're doing with it is illegal. They are ethically obliged to do as much as possible to ensure you can't run illegal, unlicensed software on it.
Just from a glance at the wiki, some of the games being made available are clones of Nintendo's own games!
If you're going to defend homebrew do not take the stance that Nintendo should be happy and endorse it.
Doesn't matter. 5 years ago I spent $50 on a disappointing game called Starfox Adventures. Nintendo/Rare/somebody still has that $50 in their pocket (plus interest). I am not pleased about that.
"Excuse"? I don't need an excuse to not purchase trash, whether it's made by Nintendo or somebody else. I also didn't waste my money on the latest release of Stargate Atlantis Season 4 on DVD ("crap" for short). Just because a manufacturer publishes something does NOT mean it's worthy of handing-over the greenbacks.
As I said, if it's worthy, then I'll buy it (Zelda Ocarina of Time was actually purchased twice; once on the N64, and again on Mini-DVD for Cube/Wii playback). I don't just throw-away my cash foolishly, and you will not succeed in making me feel guilty about not buying poor products.
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3) The Homebrew Channel + Waninkoko/Wiigator's loader does allow you to play burned games, fortunately or unfortunately.
>>>Nintendo makes a nice profit from each console sold
How much?
The reason I ask is because it's unusual. Normal operating procedure is to lose $10-20 per unit sold, with money earned off the backend (game sales). So what is the cost of Wii manufacture (per unit)?
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They sell their product for profit?!!! The scoundrels!
I disagree with you on this. They are well within their rights to sell the wii at a profit.
Because, you know, most successful companies just give their stuff away.
I believe you are mistaken.
No, not when what you're doing with it is illegal.
Since when is homebrew illegal?
They are ethically obliged to do as much as possible to ensure you can't run illegal, unlicensed software on it.
What about legal software, legally licensed from homebrewers? Or legal software which you legally wrote yourself? How are they ethically obliged to stop you running legal, licensed software?
Just from a glance at the wiki, some of the games being made available are clones of Nintendo's own games!
And none of Nintendo's games are clones of what has gone on before, and may well be available for free? People have been cloning ideas in computer games for years. That has nothing to do with homebrew.
If you're going to defend homebrew do not take the stance that Nintendo should be happy and endorse it.
If you're going to attack homebrew, don't just invent stuff about it being illegal and unethical.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
These guys are nothing short of awesome :). Only two days after the update. For those of us who couldn't possibly afford a Nintendo dev kit (or get one if we could since we're not publishers) this is the only way we're able to write games on an actual Wii.
Thanks Team TWiizers!
Even when they secure the path all the way from the UV-ray disc to each dot in the LCD/plasma/OLED display in 2038, all one needs to get the color of each pixel with greater than 99.999% accuracy is half a dozen US$ 100 cheap cameras
True, analog reconversion defeats digital restrictions management on non-interactive works. But Nintendo publishes video games, which are interactive works.
3) The Homebrew Channel can do a lot, but what it can't do is play Wii games off of burned discs. You still need a modchip for that. You can play copied WiiWare games, but team Twiizers officially denounces warez. They're doing it to open up the platform itself, not to open it up for the warez kids.
So you can install this homebrew channel sans mod-chip?
(people here at work thought I was having a seizure...)
That is the best definition of door locks' effectiveness I ever read.
But, anyway, the important thing is: once one thief (eventual or lock-picking) enters your home, he takes your TV and stereo; once one copyright infringer copies your movie, the whole internet has access to it via BT. :-)
And answering KasperMeerts above:
And who will be permitted to own a TV and a camera at the same time you think?
even in a police state the would have difficulty tracking all cameras and/or impeding clubs/families to own a digital tv and a camera. Notice that I told about a rig that does not involve breaking up the big-screen TV. Once one is willing to open his/her TV up, it's just a matter of substituting the physical screen for some millions of data entry points and recording away. But with nice calibration, even perfect/near-perfect digital copies via the analog hole are possible.
It's better to be the foot on the boot than the face on the pavement. ~~ tkx Kadin2048
They are ethically obliged to do as much as possible to ensure you can't run illegal, unlicensed software on it.
Illegal under what law, and unlicensed under what exclusive right? Please name a few "illegal, unlicensed" titles you're looking at, so that other people following this discussion can understand what you are talking about.
Just from a glance at the wiki, some of the games being made available are clones of Nintendo's own games!
So bleeping what? Game play is not copyrightable. In fact, Nintendo's own Balloon Fight, available in the North American versions of Animal Crossing (for GameCube) and Wii Shop Channel, is a clone of Midway's Joust.
Yes, you can. You will need to make use of the Twilight Hack, so you definitely need Twilight Princess if you don't own a modchip. It's ok if you borrow it for an hour or so, you just need it to get your foot in the door.
Check out everything you need to know here: http://hbc.hackmii.com/
People don't buy $250 systems just to play homebrew.
No, but they do buy $330 systems just to play homebrew. Heck, if you define "homebrew" to mean "software released without a negotiated licensing agreement between the developer and the computer's manufacturer", people buy $300 to $2,000 devices for homebrew, called "personal computers".
That might all be well and true, but if you read the post I was replying to again you will see that all I did was counter the OP's "The console is about as cheap as they get" argument.
I know there is no reason for Nintendo to dop the price, as it would undermine the "exclusiveness" of the Wii.
Yes, but you need an original copy of "The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess" for that. Then you just copy a save game onto a SD card. Google "wii homebrew channel", it is as easy as it gets.
But it is wrong to say that this does not allow playing "backup" games from regular burned discs. It is still early, but there already tools (that can be run from the Homebrew Channel) that allow you to play burned games without a modchip, and the compatibility list is increasing by the day. I heard you don't even need to patch the ISO before burning it anymore.
It is actually a pretty fierce struggle between homebrewers, hackers and pirates. Hackers open up the platform, usually for homebrewers, but then pirates step in to install WiiWare, VC games and, recently, to implement those backup loaders. And the thing is, I really don't think Nintendo gives a rats ass about homebrewers, but they have to attack wathever hackers do with their system because there is another group of people that uses those hacks to pirates games on it.
It's called "game rental". Learn it. Use it. Love it. Avoid buying crap like "Starfox Adventures".
End of lesson. You may press the button.
As far as the price tag, Finance 101 my friend. They keep the quantities on the shelf low to generate some hype, and come out with some quirky "game" (WiiFit) every now and then to generate more hype to keep demand up.
Right. Nintendo increased production from 1.6M to 2.4M in a year, to try to meet the near-unprecedented demand. (See http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=33095) Where are they storing all those millions of consoles? The truth is, it's the consumers who make sure the Wii can't be found on shelves, by buying the damn things as fast as they get back in stock.
And Wii games aren't exactly contenders for Game of the Year, again niche market.
Riiiiight, games like Super Mario Galaxy can never win such prestigious awards...
http://videogames.yahoo.com/events/game-of-the-year-2007/best-overall-game-of-2007/1177115
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/29286.html
Not that I really disagree with you all that much, Nintendo have been careful about ramping up their production to not allow Wiis to pile up in stores, and *most* Wii games are shitty.
Both of those are attributable to common sense, though: Produce too many of an item, and you're paying to lease more factories than you actually need, and on top of that you also have to store your excess stock in expensive warehouses.
As to the shitty games, that's just down to the Wii being the market leader, and thus the target of shovelware publishers who want to maximise their sales by releasing games to the largest install base possible. Oh yeah, the Wii is cheaper to develop for, too!
As others have posted, about $50, see source. This was in september 2007, and I can hardly imagine that production costs would have increased since then (to the contrary..) The price of the Wii is however still $/EUR 250 worldwide.
It is. Good job for them, especially as compared to Microsoft where the total losses in the X-box division likely run into the 11-digit range by now; see here and here, and note that this is even before the infamous $2B "red ring of death" recall.
Every expression is true, for a given value of 'true'
Part of the appeal of console systems is that, generally, a console owned by person A is the same as the console owned by person B. Consoles provide a uniform environment. Both for game development and game playing. If you're playing SSBB online, you don't have to worry about someone running cheats or maphacks.
Is it that difficult of a concept to grasp, that console makers like having a nice uniform hardware (per console) environment?
Don't like big bad Nintendo patching out all your mods? DON'T GET THE NINTENDO UPDATES THEN!
If you want to mod your system and play official games and use official services perhaps you shouldn't try to do it with the same unit.
Once you buy it, you are free to do with it what you want. Nintendo has no obligation to keep their inventory compatible with your out of spec system.
Whilst the homebrew channel doesn't run burned games, it can be used as a platform to 'softmod' programs which can run burned games.
The stupid thing is still selling like hotcakes, why bother dropping the price? Supply and demand my friend. While any geek worth their salt may be able to realize that a PS3 or a 360 is 'more value' than a Wii, dollar for dollar in hardware, the Wii has specific games and playability that appeals to people willing to pay for it.
When people stop buying them at full bang, I'm sure they'll drop the price $50 to increase sales.
- Michael T. Babcock (Yes, I blog)
Normal operating procedure for everyone but Nintendo. As I understand it, Nintendo has almost always sold their consoles at a profit, being less driven to have the latest and greatest but rather the best licensing arrangements for games instead.
Ironically the two times I remember Nintendo bragging about having better hardware than the 'other guys' were the N64 and the Gamecube, arguably both miserable failures compared to other console systems at the time.
They still made a profit off each unit sold, IIRC though.
- Michael T. Babcock (Yes, I blog)
The word 'plays' can be interpreted in a few ways here. 'It plays' can be considered that it simply runs the games, and the game (eventually) loads and runs. But if it causes the DVD to read @ 1x or 2x, causing 4-5x longer loading screens, would you call that playing? I've even tried Mario Kart online, and keep getting disconnected because it simply takes too long to load.
They're working on version 0.2, which apparently brings up the read speed to 3x which should help considerably. However, it's still not near flawless and may be downgraded from 'plays' to 'semi-works'. It's still a huge milestone for the homebrew community since you're now able to run patched discs without hardware mods.
~30M sold and climbing while not seeing them on store shelves doesn't sound like a bad marketing strategy. Especially considering the price.
No, not when what you're doing with it is illegal. They are ethically obliged to do as much as possible to ensure you can't run illegal, unlicensed software on it.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
"Most people, I think, don't even know what a rootkit is, so why should they care about it?"
Or piracy... Download, play, realise its crap, delete, unless your network connection is especially poor you wasted less time and money than renting.
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1) Definitely agree, why cut your prices when your system is still selling out and the holidays are approaching? Even if it is the "technically" lesser system.
1b) I disagree, the $200 (USD) 360 now lets you upgrade with a free 512 MB card or a 20 GB drive for $20. First link I could find. Also, the Core has been pretty much discontinued with the Arcade taking its spot. The Arcade comes with the wireless controller, HDMI, and now you can upgrade to a 20 GB HD for 20 bucks more. Definitely the better deal at the moment. Although with larger downloadable games and demos, and HD install option on the next dashboard update, Elite or the larger HD upgrade might be the way to go. Too damn bad that you can't just throw in a standard 2.5" drive instead of paying out the ass for the Microsoft model.
Said, "It's just like dice but it's got more sides And it tells me who lives and who dies"
Not all that interested in burned games. I bought all the wii games I want (and likely will ever want, with the crap they're churning out now. :( ) including the aforementioned Twilight princess. ;)
Thanks for the hint.
Nobody is criticizing Nintendo for selling at a profit. People are, however, pointing out that homebrew, if anything, is having a positive effect by selling more consoles (at profit) and is having no negative effect due to the lack of game piracy.
Remember, open source is free as in speech, not free as in bear.
On the same note, if we're willing to take the risk of breaking things and non-compatibility, what reason does Nintendo have for patching it out? I mean, they're free to if they wish (obviously), but we've clearly stated that being one of their nice uniform consoles is not our primary intention.
Remember, open source is free as in speech, not free as in bear.
Actually you can play Wii games off of burned discs with Homebrew. See here
Correct. Also downloading saves the earth by not burning gasoline in a car driving to Blockbuster rental.
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>>>always being less driven to have the latest and greatest
That's their current philosophy, but it wasn't "always" like that. The NES/Super NES were not the best, but they were no slouches next to other 8 and 16 consoles. The N64 was the most-advanced technology of the 1994-96 console releases. Ditto the Gamecube (I consider it equal in power to the Xbox). It was only with the most-recent generation that Nintendo decided to settle for third (in terms of tech).
FOX NEWS.com should be BANNED from television and internet. Have the Congress take it over and give us Truespeak.
>>>When do you folk feel a bit ethically obliged to let the company just make some money out of the good work they've done.
When they produce good work. That's when I hand-over the cash. Not before. I owned a Gamecube, spent a lot of money on their games, and was very disappointed with the results. I didn't think the quality of the games were as good as what I played on the previous N64 console, or Super Nintendo console.
At this point, if anybody owes anything, it's Nintendo who owes ME for sucking-away my money on poor-quality Cube games. I don't see Nintendo "ethically obliged" to refund my money??? So I'll just treat Nintendo how they treat me. "Nothing personal; just business."
FOX NEWS.com should be BANNED from television and internet. Have the Congress take it over and give us Truespeak.
But why doesn't Nintendo just license the ScummVM and drop it as a small $ purchase on their online store?
That way anyone who has an old scumm game can play it for free (by copying it to the SD card), and anyone else
can buy a copy via the store. Seems like win/win for everyone. I know there are hacks to enable mplayer, and DVD playback
and those are separate issues, probably more due to licensing the underlying patents for various compression technologies
than anything.
Blah, blah, blah I am only doing it for the poor kids with cancer....
Sorry it is such a bullshit excuse and 99.9% of those people who are creating/using this hack to run pirated games could give a shit otherwise.
No offense but you and the rest of the clones around here have your head shoved up your ass a little, but by all means turn a blind eye to what is really going on. It is silly because the people releasing these cracks are all majority involved in Warez groups or otherwise, but hey whatever you do don't read that 'release.txt' full of the Warez groups name and crack team that came with the hack to run your open source hardware.
To pay for games or download for free from the internet? hmmmm doesn't take a monkey to figure out that choice
Inconceivable!
Actually, cheat codes exist and work very well with the Wii. It's just not very common yet until Datel allows Idiot Cheater to do it by inserting a $50 disc.
Not to mention, I would absolutely love a wii channel to play my collection of divx movies and music etc. While some of the solutions out there are okay, I'd love to see something more tangible other than a flash player in a browser to play movies. A homebrew channel would be teh awesome. Divx has a streaming tool they created that would just make the perfect server for a wii channel.
Please don't confuse illegal with unlicensed.
That's the problem with Nintendo allowing homebrew or even looking the other way while it's going on. They have no control over the code so for them to allow it to run on their console is leaving them open to lawsuits.
Are you claiming Midway would be able to successfully sue Nintendo for allowing confusingly named games on its console? If so, why hasn't anybody been able to sue Apple for the same thing on its Macintosh computers?
Another example would be a homebrew coder writing totally his own code and creating some ultra-violent game that adults might find hilarious and fun but that same game, written outside the boundaries of the parental controls might be picked up by some young kid whose clueless parent might then flip over it and sue Nintendo because their parental controls failed.
Would they likewise sue Microsoft because Windows Vista's parental controls failed?
Methinks you're behind on your software versions: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v16290942FhfBbDSy
Maybe more governments and businesses are going for open source and free software, but I am not sure you could say a majority are. Ten years ago, it was almost 0% except for common things such as Apache and the like. It is up from 0%, but I doubt it is over 50% or even 25%, however I don't know for sure. Would be nice to see the actual numbers though.
I do admit there have been changes to sway things so open source / free software is in a better position, but I think the freedoms to have such things are still at risk. There are also still software and media companies pushing and lobbying for proprietary software and DRM, so there is still a reasonable possibility for them to take over.
it's amazing that, out of all the things you could've replied with, you went with something pointless and redundant; containing the inherent supposition that your terseness had some sort of depth. good job. you have a bright future in politics.
It's so weird to read an argument when only one side gets modded high enough for me to see :)
Search your logs like the web: splunk!
Honestly, that's what I said. Go read it again.
- Michael T. Babcock (Yes, I blog)