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After Domain Squatting, Twitter Squatting

carusoj writes "Squatting on domain names is nothing new, but Twitter has created a new opportunity for squatters, in the form of Twitter IDs. Writes Richard Stiennon: 'Is there evidence of Twitter squatting (squitting?) Let's check. Yup, every single-letter TwitID is taken ... How about common words? Garage, wow, war, warcraft, Crisco, Coke, Pepsi, Nike, and Chevrolet are all taken. My guess is that Twitter squatters have grabbed all of these in the hopes that they will be worth selling in the not too distant future. Of course the legitimate holders of brands can sue for them and Twitter can just turn them over if asked. But, because the investment and risk for the squatter is zero, you are going to see the rapid evaporation of available Twitter IDs.'"

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  1. Can't say I ever used Twitter by OverlordQ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So this is pretty much like every other social networking site where you have to pick a username?

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    1. Re:Can't say I ever used Twitter by Billhead · · Score: 3, Funny

      I don't think this is about the website Twitter but the /. user twitter.

    2. Re:Can't say I ever used Twitter by eln · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's as if someone said, "You know, I like MySpace, but the blog posts there just aren't inane enough. I wish there was a site where people could quickly and easily share every minute of their boring lives with the world."

    3. Re:Can't say I ever used Twitter by causality · · Score: 4, Interesting

      So this is pretty much like every other social networking site where you have to pick a username?

      Yes, Twitter is just one of the most trendy social networking sites right now so people are falling over themselves to act like the squatting of (or competition for) unique IDs in a limited namespace is somehow a new concept. Once you understand the simple concept, the specific application (be it domain names, Twitter usernames, etc) is mere trivia and doesn't really explain anything new but it passes for news. Refer to Henry David Thoreau's take on "the news" to get a better idea of where I'm coming from.

      Because Twitter is very trendy right now, in a few months people will probably stop talking about it as though old and well-known concepts are somehow different when applied to the site. Hell, if it's like a lot of trends, then it's possible that in a few months or so many people will not seem to know what you're talking about if you mention it, or they will speak of it like a vague memory.

      I should say that I'm all for using Twitter or any other site if you want to and especially if you enjoy it. What I am speaking against is the tendency to make a big deal out of nothing, to attach novelty and significance to events that are actually predictable and trivial.

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    4. Re:Can't say I ever used Twitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      12:45 - gotta take a piss

      12:53 - Holy fuck! Barack Obama was taking a shit in the bathrroom

      12:54 - he forgot to flush

      12:56 - fap fap fap

    5. Re:Can't say I ever used Twitter by v1 · · Score: 4, Funny

      who says you can't still get a short username?

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    6. Re:Can't say I ever used Twitter by dintech · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The poster also forgot that not that many people actually care about twitter.

    7. Re:Can't say I ever used Twitter by rivetgeek · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's basically livejournal for people with ADD. The worst part is things like loudtwitter which publishes peoples twitter posts on their livejournal.

    8. Re:Can't say I ever used Twitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      4:07PM EST - Regret reading your comment

    9. Re:Can't say I ever used Twitter by Chaos+Incarnate · · Score: 2, Informative

      OpenID is great in theory, but has a couple of rather annoying implementation flaws—not the least of which is that there's no way to aggregate existing IDs from multiple providers into one "meta-OpenID".

      There's also the problem of providers like LiveJournal not giving full access to outside OpenID users—for example, you can comment with an OpenID, but you can't have a journal associated with that OpenID. Because of this, you're required to have multiple IDs with multiple providers. So not only does the lack of aggregation befoul past accounts, but you have to keep using all of your accounts going forward, and not just one OpenID everywhere you go.

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    10. Re:Can't say I ever used Twitter by causality · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There is a protocol to handle this already, and Twitter could've easily used it instead of randomly handing people whatever username came to mind.

      To be honest with you, I'm glad that OpenID or something like it has not taken off. I personally like the "chaotic Internet" where one login credential is entirely separate from another and it's up to me to keep track of them. Keeping up with them is a very tiny burden, I do it gladly, and there are plenty of good tools that make it a breeze. To me, the convenience of a system like OpenID is either non-existant or insignificant, while the privacy implications of not only making it easy to profile my browsing but also of doing most of the profiling work myself are severe. I'm sure that the proponents of OpenID have a long list of reasons why I should not worry about privacy implications, but I'm just not buying it. Once personal data is centralized, it has a nasty tendency to stay that way. That kind of accurate, self-managing, neatly profiled data is a marketer's wet dream.

      I'm one of those strange people who does things based on principle and a concept of whether this is really the best solution. So, for example, I block trackers like Google-analytics despite any argument or any evidence which demonstrates that it's really rather harmless. Why? Because I never signed any document or made any agreement giving any entity the right to track me and profile me. Personally, I need no other reason to make such tracking as difficult as possible, so I often laugh when I see the subject come up from time to time and I see all of these intricate arguments about what is and is not tracked and why you should or shouldn't worry about it. To me those are needless complications of what is actually a very simple issue. I assume that everyone has the right to privacy and that any entity which tries to reduce a user's privacy (no matter how benign the stated reason may be) without full disclosure and the express consent of that user is acting like an invasive force and that refusing to go along with it is only right and proper. Isn't that so much easier than all of these rationalizations for why we should accept the loss of privacy as though it were some inevitable landmark along the path of human progress? Beware of the motivations of anyone who wants you to believe that; they either have an agenda or a victim mentality and neither one is any good.

      So back to OpenID. The advantage: one-stop management of many online accounts. The disadvantage: yet more centralization of private data and an increased ease with which it could be disclosed (intentionally or otherwise). I will be harshly honest -- I think there is something seductive about promises of convenience and reduced effort (especially for things which are already very easy) and I likewise think that there is something cowardly about people who value such promises more than they value their own freedom and privacy. I am not referring to you personally with that sentence, but rather to the large numbers of people who will gladly trade what is priceless in exchange for what has a price and sincerely believe that they have found a bargain.

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    11. Re:Can't say I ever used Twitter by Z00L00K · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And then you can just consider that squatters are rövhål. But who cares about twitter anyway?

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    12. Re:Can't say I ever used Twitter by Oktober+Sunset · · Score: 4, Funny

      Tweet: Replied to guy on Slashdot, did not agree.

    13. Re:Can't say I ever used Twitter by Ihmhi · · Score: 4, Funny

      He's a Twitter Shitter!

    14. Re:Can't say I ever used Twitter by speculatrix · · Score: 2, Insightful

      some wise person once said: "twitter, for bloggers so mediocre they can't even come up with a full paragraph worth writing".

  2. Combatting Multis? by eldavojohn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Don't some sites implement an IP log to combat multi-account users? I've seen used extensively in games like Tribal Wars & Ikariam which are just browser based games because the implications are severe. They will ban you. You would think that Twitter would be able to spot accounts being created on the same IP. If the squatter uses an onion router or Tor to start the account, one would think those IP ranges would be easy to spot & block also.

    Yes, it is sacrificing a simple hands off policy for a complicated enforced one ... but if you're that worried about that kind of account squatting, why not? Also, this would eliminate people who might be spamming with twitter or using multiple accounts to game twitter. I don't know if those are serious problems but I would be surprised if they weren't.

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    1. Re:Combatting Multis? by Hognoxious · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You would think that Twitter would be able to spot accounts being created on the same IP.

      The same person always has the same IP? The same IP always belongs the same person?

      Wrong and wrong, but thanks for playing.

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    2. Re:Combatting Multis? by khellendros1984 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Scenario: College dorm running behind NAT. Many users, probably many Twitter account holders, but a single IP.

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  3. Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    How many sock puppets does that guy need?!?!

  4. This would assume that Twitter was worth a damn by Scareduck · · Score: 2, Interesting

    See also. Lore Sjoberg rips Twitter a new one, but it's only common sense; who frankly gives a damn?

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    1. Re:This would assume that Twitter was worth a damn by Serenissima · · Score: 4

      I think one of the tags for this story says it all... "whocares"

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  5. Yeah by Daimanta · · Score: 3, Funny

    I heard that Twitter squatted around 100 kazillion accounts on Slashdot including some with prime numbers. If we don't watch out all prime numbers are going to be taken!

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  6. Re:Who cares? by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 5, Funny

    Fuck.

    Sorry, that's taken already.

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  7. got that right by stoolpigeon · · Score: 4, Funny

    this is why my entire retirement plan consists of the thousands of facebook and myspace accounts that I have created.

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    1. Re:got that right by corbettw · · Score: 4, Funny

      You think that's speculative? My entire retirement plan revolves around putting money into a 401(k) and an IRA, and I'm heavily invested in blue chip stocks and index funds. Now that's playing footloose and fancy free with the future!

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    2. Re:got that right by pcolaman · · Score: 4, Funny

      You should be modded informative for certain.

  8. Yet another reason by Baldrson · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is yet another reason that in-place liquidation value, rather than economic activity, should be the basis for taxation.

  9. Squitting? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why is twitter squatting squitting and not twatting?

    1. Re:Squitting? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Squitting" sounds like something I do about 20 minutes after eating too much Taco Bell.

  10. Slashdot, too by cerberusss · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What's pretty funny, is that this is the same on Slashdot. For instance I tried a few car brands and these all exist and have extremely low UIDs:
    http://slashdot.org/~mercedes
    http://slashdot.org/~ferrari
    http://slashdot.org/~ford
    http://slashdot.org/~fiat

    But also
    http://slashdot.org/~tefal
    http://slashdot.org/~aga
    http://slashdot.org/~farber
    exists so we have a few happy chef-cooks here as well :-)

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    1. Re:Slashdot, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Slashsquatting?

    2. Re:Slashdot, too by pcolaman · · Score: 4, Funny

      Most slashdot users would pull a groin muscle if they tried to squat.

  11. Re:I'm squatting for myself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Oh, good Idea.

  12. Still, its a great excuse by tpjunkie · · Score: 5, Funny

    to use the term "twatter" or "twating" which I find much more hilarious than "squitting"

    1. Re:Still, its a great excuse by uncledrax · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm some random /. reader, and I approve the preceding message.

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    2. Re:Still, its a great excuse by c0ck_l0rge · · Score: 3, Funny

      Twat? I cunt hear you!

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  13. Yep. by Wolfger · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Chrysler recently announced they were on Twitter, but the name was ChryslerCom or something like that. Squatters beat them to their own name. That's the problem with unique usernames, though. I mean, say your name (because your parents are insensitive clods) actually *is* Chevy... Should you be prevented from being "Chevy" online because a car company holds a trademark on that name? Is it really fair for the courts to just take something away from you and give it to a rich corporation?

    1. Re:Yep. by pcolaman · · Score: 2, Informative

      Sony didn't win. The lady just couldn't afford to continue the legal battle and gave in. Because justice in our civil court system (and sometimes in the criminal side as well) is bought rather than won.

  14. Huh? by MahariBalzitch · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How is this comparable to domain name squatting? Is a Twitter ID really as important as a domain name?

  15. Scientific by qoncept · · Score: 4, Funny

    What a wonderful "study." Check a bunch of names that you randomly presume would be desirable, find they are taken, and then assume their use isn't legit.

    I'm trying to find a way to tie my hatred of the very concept of twitter in to this but I can't, so I'll just make it a seperate statement.

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  16. Squat before someone else does by uncledrax · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I love how TFA suggests you go out and shot-gun register anything associated with your brand.

    in short.. he's saying you should fight squatting by squatting it first.

    Gotta love that.

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  17. Twitter singularity by matt+me · · Score: 4, Funny

    Twitter has problems with downtime. Aas the number of users has grown (approximately exponentially, until approaching saturation), so has downtime.

    In 2011, twitter downtime will surpass 365 days per year.

  18. viral marketing by owlnation · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is the 3rd piece of viral marketing from the Twitter jerks in as many days.

    Twitter jerks, we all know you are desperate. But understand this: your train has sailed. We know you are desperate to be bought out by some large company like Myspace was. It is NOT going to happen for you. The credit crunch makes that certain. Plus your crappy site never stays up more than 24 hours in a row. It's time to give up. Or at least SHUT UP, and stop spamming this site with marketing crap disguised as articles.

    1. Re:viral marketing by tholomyes · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I came into this thread for the snark, but I stayed for the insight.

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  19. If this keeps up by RomulusNR · · Score: 2, Funny

    Eventually ICANN will need to solicit proposals for new Twitters with a $185,000 submission fee, to provide more twitname space.

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  20. TWITTER SQUATTING! by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now legal in 12 states, between consenting adults!

    Maybe yours is next?

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  21. Assigned short international ID by Nethead · · Score: 2

    Any half-geek can get a Amateur Radio call sign that is unique worldwide. It's 4-6 characters long and most nations have a vanity sign program. All you have to do is study a bit and take a test. In the US if you take an advanced test you can get a 4 character sign. No Morse code testing in needed in the US and some other countries. Oh, you also then get the privilege to use bits of the RF spectrum to talk with other geeks. Most US states will give you special vehicle plates at a reduced cost with your call sign on them.

    73 de w7com

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  22. [Ob Penny Arcade] by traycerb · · Score: 5, Funny
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