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1/3 of Amphibians Dying Out

Death Metal sends in a Scientific American article reporting that 2,000 of 6,000 amphibian species are endangered worldwide. A combination of environmental assaults, including global warming, seems to be responsible. "... national parks and other areas protected from pollution and development are providing no refuge. The frogs and salamanders of Yellowstone National Park have been declining since the 1980s, according to a Stanford University study, as global warming dries out seasonal ponds, leaving dried salamander corpses in their wake. Since the 1970s, nearly 75 percent of the frogs and other amphibians of La Selva Biological Station in Braulio Carrillo National Park in the Caribbean lowlands of Costa Rica have died, perhaps due to global warming. But the really bad news is that amphibians may be just the first sign of other species in trouble. Biologists at the University of California, San Diego, have shown that amphibians are the first to respond to environmental changes, thanks to their sensitivity to both air and water. What goes for amphibians may soon be true of other classes of animal, including mammals."

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  1. Re:Pollution/Habitat loss, not global warming! by freddy_dreddy · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    and love nothing more than to hurt Jesus

    So, a global scam to undermine some small ridiculous minority religion? I think not, Pinky.

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  2. Re:Pollution/Habitat loss, not global warming! by freddy_dreddy · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    ...let him strike down...

    I think that's a lot to ask from a super-being that's generally known for doing shit for eternity.

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  3. Self-perpetuating point of view, etc. by mi · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    As a paleontology graduate student trained in both mass extinctions and the geology of climate change [...] current biodiversity crisis and the anthropogenic impact on climate are as true as the theory of evolution.

    As a seminary graduate trained in Cosmology and Theology, I am telling you, that the current witchcraft crisis and the devil's impact on the fever-inducing solar eclipse are as true as the Bible. I know it is true, because my professors told me so, and they are all very respected experts in their fields.

    I am confused how you have allowed yourselves to otherwise ignore modern science.

    Those of us not trained in the "geology of climate change" would've been much easier to persuade, if the proponents of the "anthropogenic effect" were not universally thinly-veiled Leftists with a Che Guevara T-shirt in every closet. There are also counter-examples of the lands going arid, and species (including humans) dying out due to sudden climate changes long before anything, that's blamed for such changes today was invented. And occasional coldest seasons on record in various parts of the world need periodic augmentation of the "global warming" theories. But mostly it is the Leftism of nearly all advocates of the humans' responsibility for the climate change, that leaves me skeptical if not outright convinced in the opposite.

    We just have to make our lives slightly less pleasant and be willing to say some things are hands off.

    How about we start with the plastic water bottles, uhm? Popularized by fashion models (all of them "concerned about the environment", if asked), the crap is way out of hand. A New York Marathon, for another example, the famous transportation-stalling ritual gathering of professional runners and "environmentally-aware" progressive New Yorkers, consumes 63000 bottles of water, 32000 litters of Gatorade and 130 tons of trash. Not to mention the personal conduct of the most prominent figures of today's climate debate...

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  4. Re:The real question... by electrictroy · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    You don't understand. This is typical circular reasoning:

    - How do we know global warming is happening? As proof we point to the dying amphibians & dried-out lakebeds.

    - How do we know it's not just a natural occurrence? Because the extinctions/dried-up lakes are caused by global warming.

    Round-and-round we go, with every argument supposedly "supporting" the other flimsy argument. It's a lot like a religion: God exists because the bible tells us he does, and the bible is not just a fairystory because it was inspired by God. Likewise the Global Warming religion is more about faith than science.

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  5. Re:Ok, I'll bite by jav1231 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Speaking of thermometers, didn't a researcher recently find that many of the devices used in California, for instance, to measure temperature were in places like hot tarmacs at airports and next to A/C compressors outside buildings? Yeah, I'll take "human induced" global warming more seriously when grant-hungry research teams stop padding the odds.

  6. Re:Indeed by brizzadizza · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    He's not presenting nonsense, you're being obtuse. His argument is that the reason we have such wonderfully developed and complex engineering marvels is because of "democratically" distributed funds advancing the research and design of solutions to difficult engineering problems. He establishes that as his main premise, and implies the conclusion that if we are already doing research for private companies with public funds, we could just scratch out the middle man and do public research with public funds that would go to the benefit of the contributors, the public. You could retort that many large scale engineering feats were conceived by and implemented by profit driven companies and then provide a list that the slashdot readership could research, which would indicate his premise was false and his conclusion would follow to be likely false as well. Instead you decided to be a dick.

    As regards Noam Chomsky, he is an enormously well read man who offers volumes of citations to support his arguments. You can clearly disagree with his interpretation of the data, but to claim that it doesn't make any sense only demonstrates your difficulty with reading comprehension. Chomsky has made time tested contributions to the field of linguistics and has made critiques of current cultural trends that any intelligent person would do well to at least consider. Your designation is little more than an attempt to poison the well against the GP by associating his writings with your flawed understanding of Chomsky's. You and the great-grandparent are both exactly whats wrong with slashdot. You may be "clever" within some approximation of the word, but intelligent you are not.

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  7. Re:Correlation does not imply causation... by delt0r · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    From actual papers on the subject. From the IPCC report, and from the climatologist them selfs as I did work with them. There is a wide range of predctions with the most extreme at the 2-4C range. Thats what *at the most* means.

    What exactly did you read on the subject? Second hand toilet paper? Or the next worse thing, Al frekin Gore or a some dam newspaper?

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