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Barack Obama Wins US Presidency

Last night, around 11pm, all the major networks announced that Senator Barack Obama had won the election. Soon after, Senator McCain conceded. There were no crazy partisan court hearings, just a simple election. This is your chance to talk about it and what it means for the future of our nation.

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  1. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 4, Informative

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  2. Re:I'll Tell You What It Means by theM_xl · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Dems may actually get 60. They're at 56 now and there's still 4 seats in the "too close to tell right now" territory.

  3. Re:United States Socialist Republic by falcon5768 · · Score: 5, Informative

    They are laughing at the fact the republicans THOUGHT he was. There was nothing socialist he was proposing that we are not already doing, and nearly half our friends we terms a "democracy" are truthfully socialist democracies. The socialist claim was truly one of the STUPIDEST moves the neocons could have pulled, especially when their darling base polarizing vise prez nominee actually PRACTICED socialism by redirecting oil drilling profits to state residence.

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  4. Did you hear his speech? by spectrokid · · Score: 4, Informative

    Did you listen to the same speech as I did? Of course he thanked his campaign team, these people just busted their ass for the last 6 months. But he also clearly pointed out the problems lying ahead. What did you want him to say? Make a list of all his plans again? A majority of americans just APPROVED those plans! He clearly stated that this election by itself did not constitute change, that the promessed change was only now starting and would not be possible without the hard work of all americans.

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  5. You just made his point by Quila · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Patriot Act was passed by a Republican Congress and signed by a Republican president.

    1. Re:You just made his point by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 5, Informative

      98 Senators voted for the Patriot Act. Only one voted against. The Republicans weren't alone in passing it.

      357 Representatives voted for the Patriot Act. Only 55 voted against. Again, the Republicans weren't alone in passing it.

      Note that the political climate of the time was such that if the Democrats had controlled both houses of Congress, odds are it would have been passed by similar majorities.

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  6. Re:I'll Tell You What It Means by squiggleslash · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think falcon got it right to be honest.

    Both of the non-partisan links you point to show a senator who generally either votes with his party or doesn't bother to vote. The National Journal's claim that Obama is the "most liberal senator" follows a great tradition of claiming that every Democratic nominee is the most liberal, and was widely ridiculed when it came out, even in the MSM which was largely in the tank for McCain last year.

    Obama doesn't have much of a voting record. His expressed viewpoints seem fairly moderate to me, certainly in line with most of the country. And your ridiculous claims about "having seeked out marxists and leftists" make you look like a kook.

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  7. Re:Anyone know about the rest of the US? by nycguy · · Score: 5, Informative

    Residents of Puerto Rico, American Samoa and the Marshall Islands do not pay federal income tax. They do pay Social Security and Medicare taxes but they are also eligible for benefits from those programs. To have representation in Congress (relevant to "taxation without representation"), those territories would need to petition for statehood. Puerto Rico, in particular, has consistently voted not to do so.

  8. Re:The Real Surprise is in Alaska by maz2331 · · Score: 4, Informative

    They know he'll be expelled, but that the Governor (
    Palin) will appoint his successor to serve out the rest of the term.

    It was basically a choice of "yes" or "no" to giving a Republican seat to the Democrats.

    Everyone knows Stevens is going to prison. His reelection just serves as a placeholder for the person who's actually going to take the Senate seat in his stead.

    I don't believe that the Governor can appoint herself to the post, so at least the Democrats don't have to worry about hearing the words "Senator Palin".

  9. In short... by xstonedogx · · Score: 4, Informative
  10. Re:The thing that absolutely amazes me... by Uberbah · · Score: 4, Informative

    and yes, I'm still pissed at him for breaking his promise over campaign financing.

    Then you're pissed over nothing, as he never promised to take public financing. He promised he'd be willing to work on it with the Republican candidate - big difference. If you need to hold something against him, there's always his FISA flip flop.

  11. Re:I'll Tell You What It Means by TheSpoom · · Score: 5, Informative

    Barack Obama's stance on just about everything. I hear this argument a lot that he's just saying "change" without any concrete ideas for how to do so, but it's simply incorrect. The campaign's series of YouTube videos starting with "Blueprint for Change" also details what he'll actually do as president: You can watch the Obama campaign's videos here.

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  12. Re:Two words by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 4, Informative

    That argument doesn't work anymore. Just because Fox News is a right wing tabloid doesn't mean they all have a bias. If the truth doesn't support your reality and the other news organizations won't bend their coverage to support your viewpoint, that doesn't make them biased.

    And yet... they ARE.

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  13. Re:Two words by clary · · Score: 4, Informative

    Got a source on this? I just went to http://www.hrblock.com/taxes/tax_calculators/index.html and plugged in the poverty level for both a single taxpayer and married filing jointly with 2 kids, and in both cases the result was a refund via earned income tax credit.

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  14. Re:Two words by jedidiah · · Score: 4, Informative

    Fox news is the least serious of any of the major national news
    outlets or publications. They are the sort of people that make
    you wish old man Buckley was still around so that he could show
    them how it should be done.

    They have a tabloid style. They are more sensationalist and
    well for the lack of a better way of putting it... they
    elevate unqualified kook nobodies to the role of pundit.

    A genuine party rag from an earlier era was a more respectable news source.

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  15. Re:I think.... by StreetStealth · · Score: 5, Informative

    Obama doesn't owe any favors to companies or even to his own party.

    Let's not be too hasty here: It's not like Obama didn't also receive major support from industry donors. So while we shouldn't discount that part of this victory is owed to our corporate overlords, we still, as you say, shouldn't discount that part is due to the folks in your neighborhood.

    Money talks; let's hope the unprecedented small donations from individuals this time talked loudly enough.

    I'm cautiously optimistic.

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  16. Re:I'll Tell You What It Means by illumin8 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The problem is that we don't really know what Obama thinks. He's avoided most of the tough issues and done his best to not take any firm stances on anything.

    I don't think that's accurate at all. Obama has had clear and easy to read information on his website for months now stating his policy on the Iraq war, the Economy, Healthcare, and other major issues. He came right out and had the most no-nonsense tax policy ever, and he clearly beat McCain on taxes.

    At least with Obama, he was up front and said "if you make more than $250,000 you might see a tax increase." McCain doesn't even tell you that the $5,000 tax credit you get back for medical insurance probably won't cover the average family of 4's insurance premiums, costing the middle class more. McCain hid a middle class tax hike by not being truthful with the American people. Obama was up front that we'd all have to make sacrifices, and you know what? It paid off. Obama got a higher percentage of the voters that even make $200,000 or more! It goes to show that even affluent, educated Americans in the higher tax brackets don't mind making a few sacrifices instead of borrowing against our children's future.

    As soon as the Republicans move away from the slash-and-burn, anything for a quick buck, overspend and hope our kids will bail us out economic policies of the neocons, then they can finally start rebuilding their party.

    Where are all the so-called "conservative" Republicans, and what did the religious wackos and crazy spending neocons do with them?

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  17. Re:Anti-White Racism in the Afro Community by MrMarket · · Score: 4, Informative

    Guess what? Whites are no longer a majority in this country. (IE: Less than 50% of the population).

    Whites make up 74% of the US population according to the Census Bureau .