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40 Years Ago, the US Lost a Nuclear Bomb

Hugh Pickens writes "A BBC investigation has found that in 1968 the US abandoned a nuclear weapon beneath the ice in northern Greenland after a nuclear-armed B52 crashed on the ice a few miles from Thule Air Base. The Stratofortress disintegrated on impact with the sea ice and parts of it began to melt through to the fjord below. The high explosives surrounding the four nuclear weapons on board detonated without setting off the nuclear devices, which had not been armed by the crew. The Pentagon maintained that all four weapons had been 'destroyed' and while technically true, investigators piecing together fragments from the crash could only account for three of the weapons. Investigators found that 'something melted through ice such as burning primary or secondary.' A subsequent search by a US submarine was beset by technical problems and, as winter encroached and the ice began to freeze over, the search was abandoned. 'There was disappointment in what you might call a failure to return all of the components,' said a former nuclear weapons designer at the Los Alamos nuclear laboratory. 'It would be very difficult for anyone else to recover classified pieces if we couldn't find them.'"

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  1. Report to Number 1 by cthulu_mt · · Score: 5, Funny

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  2. Greenland eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wonder if Sarah Palin can see it from her house.

    1. Re:Greenland eh? by zx-15 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not really, moreover I think this is the time to make Palin jokes, previously all Palin said scared the hell out of me, but now we all can fully appreciate her stupidity.

  3. Re:gentlemen: by dintech · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think I meant precious. Previous bodily fluids are creepy.

  4. Obligatory... by mnslinky · · Score: 5, Funny

    From a unnamed news source:

    The pentagon assures us that the nuke is currently protected by sharks, with what are described as high-energy weapons. Our correspondent has confirmed the high-energy weapons are, indeed, lasers.

  5. Hey, 50 years ago, they lost one, too! by Ihlosi · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tybee_Bomb

    And it's far more conveniently located (somewhere off the coast of Georgia). No need to go diving somewhere in the Arctic!

    1. Re:Hey, 50 years ago, they lost one, too! by Richard_at_work · · Score: 5, Informative
      Also -
      • Goldsboro, North Carolina - nuclear weapon lost when B-52 broke up mid-air
      • Off Whidbey Island, Washington - nuclear depth charge lost when aircraft crashed
      • Over the Mediterranean Sea - B-47 lost without trace carrying two nuclear weapons
      • USS Ticonderoga (CVA-14) in the Pacific Ocean - an A4E armed with a hydrogen bomb rolls off the deck of the carrier in 16,000ft of water

      Quite a few nuclear weapons have been lost over the years.

    2. Re:Hey, 50 years ago, they lost one, too! by Ihlosi · · Score: 5, Informative

      There's also the Palomares incident,

      Well, they eventually accounted for all of the bombs. The guy who claimed salvage rights ... well, that's pretty fscking brilliant.

    3. Re:Hey, 50 years ago, they lost one, too! by k33l0r · · Score: 5, Funny

      From Wikipedia:

      The 12-foot (4 m) long Mark 15 bomb weighs 7,600 pounds (3,500 kg) and bears the serial number "No. 47782".

      I thought I'd gotten lucky, but the one I found had the serial number "No. 47783". Damn.

  6. Re:So, where is it? by MightyYar · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nonsense.

    But, of course, this means that Greenland possesses WMDs and must be destroyed.

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  7. Re:So, where is it? by Kokuyo · · Score: 5, Funny

    And AGAIN the US knows this because they left them there themselves ;).

  8. A matter of time. by Polarina · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's only a matter of time before Al-Qaida finds the lost bombs.

    1. Re:A matter of time. by stoofa · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well he does have a beard and leaves strange packages all over the place. In the UK, that's enough to get you shot nowadays.

  9. Experimental nuclear waste storage? by plover · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Perhaps this can somehow be used to demonstrate that nuclear waste can be safely disposed of in the ocean floor? There have been serious proposals for disposing of waste in holes drilled hundreds of feet beneath the seabed in especially deep water.

    I know this is unpopular with the anti-nuclear crowd, but a "real demo" may provide useful data.

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    1. Re:Experimental nuclear waste storage? by jsoderba · · Score: 5, Informative

      Thermonuclear bombs are composed of a small amount of mildly radioactive uranium-235 and tritium, and larger amounts of minimally radioactive uranium-238 and stable lithium deuteride. The fission products that make up the most dangerous form of radioactive waste are far more dangerous, so this bomb would not provide much useful data about waste disposal.

      In any event we don't really need more research. We already know that the best solution is to put it in a geologically stable and dry mountain.

  10. The six-step plan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting
    1. Hide one of them
    2. Take off with the three others and a dummy
    3. Cause a plane crash
    4. Find parts of the three
    5. Claim the fourth is beneath the ice
    6. Profit
  11. Not the only one by toby · · Score: 5, Informative

    In 1966, a nuclear armed B52 crashed over Palomares Spain, scattering radioactive material from multiple bombs, each 100 times more powerful than those which destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    The most serious reported accident in the U.S. Military's nuclear history took place in Palomares, Spain on Jan. 17, 1966 when a B-52 loaded with four nuclear bombs suffered a mid-air collision with a KC-135 refueling plane. All four bombs were ejected from the B-52 in the crash. One was recovered on the ground and a second from the sea after a long and difficult search. However, the high explosive packages of the other two bombs detonated on impact with the ground. While the nuclear payloads of the bombs did not detonate, over 1,400 tons of surrounding soil and vegetation were contaminated with radioactive materials. The US conducted an extensive cleanup of the area under the scrutiny of the Spanish government.

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  12. Re:gentlemen: by Poltras · · Score: 5, Funny

    Gentlemen, you can't fight in here. This is the war room!

  13. more losses by spike21 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    5 February 1958: An Air Force B-47 Stratojet from Homestead AFB was on a simulated combat mission when the plane collided with an F-86 Sabre near Savannah, Georgia. The B-47 was carrying one Mk 15 hydrogen bomb without its core at the time of the accident. The plane made three unsuccessful landing attempts at Hunter Air Force Base before the weapon was jettisoned over the Atlantic Ocean to avoid the risk of a high explosive detonation at the base. The bomb was dropped several miles from the mouth of the Savannah River in Wassaw Sound off Tybee Island. Though an intensive nine-week search was launched using divers and sonar equipment, the weapon was never found. Another unsuccessful search was mounted in 2001, and reports of radiation detected less than a mile from shore led to speculation of the bomb's discovery in 2004. Further investigation concluded the radioactivity was naturally occurring and the weapon remains missing. http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/weapons/q0268.shtml

  14. Re:Trailer to a movie? by lupinstel · · Score: 5, Funny

    Gjordzilla??

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  15. Re:Broken Arrow? by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just send in Christian Slater to recover it. It'll only take him a few hours, with the additional bonus that movie footage of the recovery mission will make for a great action movie once the evil John Travolta tries to steal it.

    Hey, cut John Travolta some slack. He just wants to get his hands on a thermonuclear weapon so he can give Xenu a taste of his own medicine.

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  16. Re:Imperialism Gone Mad by monktus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes, because everybody knows Clinton was in power in 1968.

    Don't be so quick to dismiss this, after all Obama was involved with a terrorist group back in the '60s.

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  17. Re:Imperialism Gone Mad by pnewhook · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, they invaded Afghanistan because they knew if they didn't a bunch of religious nutbars would take over. That was the only thing keeping the fundamentalist terrorists in check.

    Of course the Regan administration saw this as 'godless commies repressing religious freedom' and started training and passing arms to the Afghan rebels to fight the communists. Russia eventually saw this as an unwinnable war and pulled out.

    That provided the path for the religious nutbars to take over Afghanistan which brings us to the modern day mess we have there.

    Good job Republicans!

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  18. Not that rare, unfortunately by the_other_chewey · · Score: 5, Informative

    To this day, the USA alone have admitted losing 92 nuclear bombs.

    This doesn't count those that were recovered in sometimes very expensive operations:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palomares_hydrogen_bombs_incident

  19. Re:Imperialism Gone Mad by db32 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Republicans? Last I checked Carter was a Democrat. Half of our unbelievably disasterous foreign policy started with that clown. Not that I have much love for Republicans, but at least let's be honest here. Carter is the one that started the crap in Afghanistan in '79. Reagan continued it, but he didn't start it.

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  20. Re:Imperialism Gone Mad by pnewhook · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes Carter started it, but it was mainly a CIA operation. It took Reagan to dramatically increase funding and US involvement:

    From http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Afghanistan/Afghanistan_CIA_Taliban.html

    In March 1985, the Reagan administration issued National Security Decision Directive 166,29 a secret plan to escalate covert action in Afghanistan dramatically: Abandoning a policy of simple harassment of Soviet occupiers, the Reagan team decided secretly to let loose on the Afghan battlefield an array of U.S. high technology and military expertise in an effort to hit and demoralize Soviet commanders and soldiers....

    ...

    By 1987, the annual supply of arms had reached 65,000 tons, and a "ceaseless stream" of CIA and Pentagon officials were visiting Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) headquarters in Rawalpindi and helping to plan mujahideen operations

    ...

    As well as training and recruiting Afghan nationals to fight the Soviets, the CIA permitted its ISI allies to recruit Muslim extremists from around the world. Pakistani journalist Ahmed Rashid reports: Between 1982 and 1992, some 35,000 Muslim radicals from 43 Islamic countries in the Middle East, North and East Africa, Central Asia and the Far East would pass their baptism under fire with the Afghan mujahideen. Tens of thousands more foreign Muslim radicals came to study in the hundreds of new madrassas [religious schools] that Zia's military government began to fund in Pakistan and along the Afghan border. Eventually more than 100,000 Muslim radicals were to have direct contact with Pakistan and Afghanistan and be influenced by the jihad [against the USSR]

    Like I said - Good job Republicans!

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  21. Re:gentlemen: by ElizabethGreene · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Really old news. There are currently 8 US "lost" nuclear weapons.

    Link The one under the wetlands in NC is probably the most recoverable. All you have to do is move 5-600 tons of sand and silt while keeping the groundwater under control, and hope that the safety shielding hasn't been compromised from impact and exposure. A separate article I can't dig up right now tells the story of the guy that found it (recently, within the last 10 years). He was able to deduce the location by taking and graphing hundreds (thousands?) of radiation measurements. He wrote the air force and they said "No, it's fine where it is."

  22. Re:Imperialism Gone Mad by SirWhoopass · · Score: 5, Informative

    Really? The "main international aggressor for the past 60 years"?

    Yeah. I can't think of a single instance of any other nation doing anything aggressive over the past sixty years.

    And we all know about those massive amounts of territory the US has added to its borders since 1948.

  23. Re:gentlemen: by philspear · · Score: 5, Funny

    All you have to do is move 5-600 tons of sand and silt while keeping the groundwater under control, and hope that the safety shielding hasn't been compromised from impact and exposure.

    My god... the terrorists could get it! They're already experts in sand!

  24. Re:Imperialism Gone Mad by db32 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well as your other responder posted the charge was led by a DEMOCRAT. Again, I have no love for Republicans, especially the modern neocon type. However, your mindless hatred is getting in the way of your judgement of the truth and that kind of "oh it's all their fault" behavior is what dooms us to continue to elect the same idiot assholes to run the show based on what letter they tack on to their name. So yes...let us all run out and vote for the other idiot assholes because they have a different letter. Pay no attention to the fact that they have just as much of a nightmarish track record.

    Eisenhower and Truman were two of our greatest presidents. A Republican and a Democrat.
    Bush Jr and Carter have been two of our worst presidents. A Republican and a Democrat.
    Thomas Jefferson was one of our greatets politicians and presidents. A Democratic-Republican (Holy shit! Both letters!?)
    Can we please get over this party line bullshit now?

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