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Monty Python Banks On the Long Tail Via YouTube

JTRipper writes "Monty Python seems to have done the right thing. Instead of issuing take down notices of their videos on YouTube, they are doing it better themselves with their own YouTube channel. They are putting all their clips (including snips from their movies) up in a decent resolution, with the only caveat being a link to buying the movies and TV episodes from Amazon."

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  1. Well, Not ALL of Them Really by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Informative

    They are putting all their clips (including snips from their movies) up in a decent resolution ...

    Um, that's kind of misleading. There are 24 clips as of this posting. That's not to say there isn't more to come but the channel description clearly states:

    What's more, we're taking our most viewed clips and uploading brand new HQ versions.

    Their announcement video shows more video clips than they have up right now (man with a recorder up his nose from And Now for Something Completely Different, etc) so hopefully there's more to come. I'm a bit disappointed the general populace doesn't watch The Flying Circus more often ... it's a shame every time I see a banana at a corporate function I have the urge to hand it to someone while instructing them to "come at me with that banana like you really mean it!" And they just continue to treat me like I'm insane.

    And where's The Crimson Permanent Assurance (opening feature to The Meaning of Life)?! That single skit was probably more expensive than all other Python works combined--and a gold mine for office humor to send to your coworkers!

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    1. Re:Well, Not ALL of Them Really by (ana!)a · · Score: 5, Funny

      They probably haven't finished downloading all the torrents

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    2. Re:Well, Not ALL of Them Really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Now really, was it necessary to quote that entire post when you added your nine words? Did it significantly enhance the quality of your own post? I contend that it did not, and that you and the community as a whole would benefit from you never doing that again.

    3. Re:Well, Not ALL of Them Really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Um, that's kind of misleading. There are 24 clips as of this posting

      That's because they only put up the good ones.

      (Don't worry, Mr. Karma, I'll do this one anonymously)

    4. Re:Well, Not ALL of Them Really by owlnation · · Score: 5, Funny

      Um, that's kind of misleading.

      Did you come here for an argument?

    5. Re:Well, Not ALL of Them Really by duguk · · Score: 5, Funny

      The use of the tag "suddenoutbreakofcommonsense" just seems so inappropriate when discussing Monty Python. :)

    6. Re:Well, Not ALL of Them Really by mcgrew · · Score: 2, Funny

      I've told you once.

    7. Re:Well, Not ALL of Them Really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, you didn't!

    8. Re:Well, Not ALL of Them Really by ZarathustraDK · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Suddenoutbreakofsomethingcompletelydifferent"

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    9. Re:Well, Not ALL of Them Really by cheater512 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You mean you either hate it (Americans) or you love it (the rest of the known universe)? :P

    10. Re:Well, Not ALL of Them Really by X0563511 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think this is what you meant:

      They are putting all their clips (including snips from their movies) up in a decent resolution ...

      Um, that's kind of misleading. There are 24 clips as of this posting. That's not to say there isn't more to come but the channel description clearly states:

      What's more, we're taking our most viewed clips and uploading brand new HQ versions.

      Their announcement video shows more video clips than they have up right now (man with a recorder up his nose from And Now for Something Completely Different, etc) so hopefully there's more to come. I'm a bit disappointed the general populace doesn't watch The Flying Circus more often ... it's a shame every time I see a banana at a corporate function I have the urge to hand it to someone while instructing them to "come at me with that banana like you really mean it!" And they just continue to treat me like I'm insane.

      And where's The Crimson Permanent Assurance (opening feature to The Meaning of Life)?! That single skit was probably more expensive than all other Python works combined--and a gold mine for office humor to send to your coworkers!

      At least it's a step in the right direction!

      Now really, was it necessary to quote that entire post when you added your nine words? Did it significantly enhance the quality of your own post? I contend that it did not, and that you and the community as a whole would benefit from you never doing that again.

      Yes

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    11. Re:Well, Not ALL of Them Really by Nerdposeur · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I tagged it "herecomethequotes."

    12. Re:Well, Not ALL of Them Really by treeves · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm American and I love it. Like some other people I know.
      Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time!

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    13. Re:Well, Not ALL of Them Really by Yvanhoe · · Score: 2, Funny

      I must say, I was somehow expecting a rickroll...

      And that line is put because of the silly anoyingly presumably argumentable and debatable feature-wannabee that is the time limit on slashdot comments. IF THE TIME LIMIT RAISES COMMENTS INTERESTS, THEN CAPSLOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL. I'm cool. Another random sentence because 5 minutes is like very long.

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    14. Re:Well, Not ALL of Them Really by theeddie55 · · Score: 4, Funny

      You must be new here. Of course it's necessary to quote the entire post, what sort of person's going to click the link to read it.

    15. Re:Well, Not ALL of Them Really by gentgeen · · Score: 5, Funny

      At least it's a silly step in the right direction! There, fixed it for you.

    16. Re:Well, Not ALL of Them Really by Kagura · · Score: 4, Interesting

      At least it's a step in the right direction!

      If we want to talk about steps in the right direction, how about Hulu.com? You sit through something like 60 seconds of commercials per episode of whatever you want to watch, but otherwise everything is perfectly free. The service is designed very well and is well implemented. As far as "new business models" go, I think the people in charge of this site really know what they're doing.

      I'm happy enough with the service that I gladly advertise it for them. I regularly watch Colbert Report episodes one or two days after they air there.

    17. Re:Well, Not ALL of Them Really by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 4, Informative

      I sit through a darkened page that says essentially:
      "You can only use this service in the US. You are not in the US, so bugger off."

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    18. Re:Well, Not ALL of Them Really by Kagura · · Score: 5, Funny
      > go n

      You sit in a darkened page that says essentially: "You can only use this service in the US. You are not in the US, so bugger off."

      What do you do?

      > look
      It's too dark to look.

      > listen
      You hear panting.

      > Run Away
      Run where?

      > run e
      Your path is blocked by something. You are eaten by a grue.

      > God dammit
      You can't go down. You are dead.

  2. No problem by Drakin020 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I had no problem getting a few ads to watch something online. Much like Hulu's service. If they want to start something like this, go for it! This is how it should be done.

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  3. That's not a caveat by Reality+Master+201 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's just a link to amazon.

    A caveat would be a warning or proviso indicating terms of use, like that you have to pay them $1 million if you don't buy the video from Amazon.

  4. It's good to see some people are getting it... by ivanmarsh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    All your old business models are dead... it's time to find a better way and stop treating potential customers as the enemy.

    (I have the entire flying circus on DVD bought and paid for... what a wonderful waste of time.)

    1. Re:It's good to see some people are getting it... by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 5, Funny

      All your old business models are dead

      Nah, they're just resting.

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    2. Re:It's good to see some people are getting it... by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Nah, they're just resting.

      Look, matey, I know a dead business model when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now

    3. Re:It's good to see some people are getting it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      No no it's not dead, it's, it's changin'! Remarkable business model, the MPAA, idn'it, ay? Beautiful Portfolio!

    4. Re:It's good to see some people are getting it... by Pollardito · · Score: 5, Funny

      Listen: strange men sitting at desks uploading clips to youtube is no basis for a system of content distribution

    5. Re:It's good to see some people are getting it... by davegravy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ...yet another rip-off of Philogelos

    6. Re:It's good to see some people are getting it... by dgr73 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Look, matey, I know a dead business model when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now

      MPAA: I'm not dead yet!

  5. Well, I didn't expect this. by Eg0Death · · Score: 2, Funny

    Nooooobody expects the Monty Python clips on Youtube! Our chief weapons are . . .

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    1. Re:Well, I didn't expect this. by duckInferno · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'd quite like to sit down and watch these.
      Biggles! Fetch... THE COMFY CHAIR!

      dastardly music

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  6. Obligatory by CdBee · · Score: 2, Funny

    Are you suggesting that cononuts migrate to online services??????

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    1. Re:Obligatory by Svartalf · · Score: 2, Funny

      Not at all. They could be carried.

      What? A swallow carrying a coconut?

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  7. explanations? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Who is Monty Python and why should I care? Is it a band? From what I can tell they're just a bunch of fat Australians who need shaves.

    1. Re:explanations? by duckInferno · · Score: 5, Informative

      A british comedy skit show from the 60's and 70's that was very controversial and revolutionary in its comedic delivery for the time. Considered by many to be one of the best comedy shows of all time.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python

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    2. Re:explanations? by 0racle · · Score: 2, Funny

      They're not Australians you numbskull, they're South African.

      God damn, the nerve of some people.

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    3. Re:explanations? by compro01 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Of course, I'm just banking on it being a troll :P

      One man's -1 troll is another man's +5 funny.

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  8. Who ordered this? by elashish14 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I wonder who had the power to make this decision since most artists sell their work to a label/studio. According to Wikipedia for example, The Holy Grain is currently produced by Fox and EMI in the UK and Cinema 5 in the US (who I've never heard of). But the others seem to have other distributors. It's strange that they would upload portions from the entire collection when it seems that different parts are owned by different companies....

    But it's welcome news. Maybe it will set a precedent for others to do the same.

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  9. Outside convent with half naked women... by AmigaHeretic · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sir Lancelot: We were in the nick of time. You were in great peril.
    Sir Galahad: I don't think I was.
    Sir Lancelot: Yes, you were. You were in terrible peril.
    Sir Galahad: Look, let me go back in there and face the peril.
    Sir Lancelot: No, it's too perilous.
    Sir Galahad: Look, it's my duty as a knight to sample as much peril as I can.
    Sir Lancelot: No, we've got to find the Holy Grail. Come on.
    Sir Galahad: Oh, let me have just a little bit of peril?
    Sir Lancelot: No. It's unhealthy.
    Sir Galahad: I bet you're gay.
    Sir Lancelot: Am not.

  10. And now for something completely different by duckInferno · · Score: 4, Funny

    A man with twenty-four Monty Python clips!

    'es watching youtube

    Oh.. uh... a man with three legs!

    'es run away

    ... oh come off it!

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  11. Seems like a better model to me by jollyreaper · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I was a huge fan of the way id released their games back in the day, first episode is long and free, the next two will cost you something. Now with Monty Python, the last show went in the can years ago and they're not likely to produce anything new. But for newer shows, I think the PBS model would work. Give the content away for free but let the fans who really like it become direct patrons to support the arts. Let's face it, stamping out piracy is pretty much impossible and not every pirated copy is really a lost sale to begin with. Better to support the culture of patronage and count on the real fans to help you turn a profit.

    One thing the networks are struggling to contend with right now is gaining an accurate measure of just how popular a show is. We know about Faux's surprise when Family Guy was canceled for poor ratings and the DVD set went on to become the #2 selling show ever. This sort of performance gap is continuing with geriatric-targeting CBS having great Nielsens while shows skewing towards younger demographics seem to be under-performing but this does not reflect the interest on p2p sites. ITunes only depicts a portion of the overall success online. And DVD sales aren't figured until long after the current season is over.

    I'll be happy when the middle-men are completely done away with and first-run shows are produced with no need for networks. We're already seeing quirky comedies doing well on Youtube but those are extremely low-budget. It'll take some bucks to put together something like Firefly on a fan-funded basis.

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    1. Re:Seems like a better model to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      The PBS model doesn't really even work for PBS. When I worked at WGBH in Boston, I got to see the budget numbers - about 90% of the budget comes from the corporate sponsors. Those commitments are arranged and planned for years in advance.

      The remainder of the budget comes from "viewers like you," and since it's impossible to predict those donation amounts in advance, it goes only into a discretionary spending fund. Every project plan has a few "would be nice" items in case there's enough in that discretionary fund to build them by the time the project is being produced.

  12. Oh you Barstewards by thewils · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why did you have to tell me that. Bang goes the rest of the week...

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  13. What I'd like to see of Python: laugh-track free by timothy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I hate laugh tracks.

    No, scratch that -- I am annoyed by laugh tracks. Partly because I'm used to them, and when I notice a laugh-track it's often too late.

    Please, Pythons -- your sketches are funny (on albums) without the degrading use of laugh tracks. Do you still have the masters from which to make better video clips, without them?

    timothy

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  14. A terrible decision by xav_jones · · Score: 5, Funny

    YouTube will be inundated with spam.

  15. Re:Long Tail? by alexander_686 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The "Long Tail" is a retail concept. Normally, business make 80% of their profit/sales off 20% of the items that they sell. Which is why "Big" retails are well stocked with the latest Hollywood film, but not that obscure DVD with British humor. The Internet is supposed to change this. Because adding an additional piece to inventor does not take up an additional retail "space" a store can offer unlimited holdings. So one would expect that fewer sales of the "Big" hits and more sales of the more odd titles. It's is a nice theory, but it not true. 80% of Amazon's sales come from just 20% of their inventory. I mean, sure, they have a much larger inventory then most stores, but they don't expect the long tail. The numbers are bigger but the ratio stays the same. I have always wondered if Apple's Itunes has escaped into the long tail.

  16. Oblig XKCD by AdamTrace · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Going WAY back on this one...

    http://xkcd.com/16/

  17. Re:What I'd like to see of Python: laugh-track fre by skwang · · Score: 3, Informative
    I'm no expert, but many of their Flying Circus episodes were filmed in front of studio audiences. In addition, there was a laugh track that was inserted in post-production.

    I'm afraid you'll have to do with the laughter.

  18. Re:Yes, it is! by jacquesm · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, I'm pretty sure this is abuse...

  19. Re:All I see on YouTube these days is... by networkBoy · · Score: 2, Funny

    hit refresh a couple times and it usually comes up...
    dunno why though.

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  20. Re:Let it begin by HiVizDiver · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Let it begin

    I'm as big a Python fan as the next, but let it not.

  21. Re:Long Tail? by geobeck · · Score: 5, Funny

    I mean, sure, they have a much larger inventory then most stores, but they don't expect the long tail.

    No one expects the...

    Oh, bugger.

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  22. Re:What I'd like to see of Python: laugh-track fre by Tetsujin · · Score: 3, Funny

    "What's it called?" he asked.

    "My Name Is Earl."

    "I thought your name was Steve?"

    "THIRD BASE!"

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  23. They 'get it' - but today's audience does not. by Animaether · · Score: 5, Insightful

    to wit: "with the only caveat being a link to buying the movies and TV episodes from Amazon."
    caveat? -caveat-? Holy crap. The people behind the actual stuff can't put a f'ing "BUY THIS NOW" link with their videos without being chastised for it now?

    The "me me me" generation needs to move along and die - the sooner the better.

    I've always said (search my comments - I'm sure I've ranted on this topic here before) that the content owners should have a two-part strategy..
    1. yes, by all means, send DMCA takedown notices of clear rips (if for no other reason than that I am tired of the leading title sequences for clips saying "video made by GangFunksta!!!!" in bright yellow on blue put together in windows movie maker, followed by the actual video overlaid by "made with unregistered hypercam" in the corners all over, and the sound too quiet to hear without setting the volume to 11)
    ( Note that I say 'clear rips'; somebody playing some stupid song in the background of their kid dancing shouldn't get a DMCA takedown. Somebody putting up a still image with the artist name and title of the song with the music in good quality -should- be DMCAd left right and center. )

    2. Make an official and -good- quality version available themselves. Doesn't even need to be high quality or HD - leave that for sales if you want, but just set up good quality versions, add links to other productions of yours, add links to amazon, to swag, insert special promo codes - whatever you think would bring you more customers instead of driving them away (and to those crappy rips).. heck, put in an actual ad at the end of the video.

  24. south park by qw0ntum · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I think the best model that any show has come up with is South Park's. Every episode from every season posted online, full, without commercials. The newest episodes are posted the week after they air.

    This policy has encouraged me to watch South Park. And what do you know: I even watch it on TV sometimes. +1 viewership by enlightened understanding of digital distribution.

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    1. Re:south park by funkatron · · Score: 2, Informative

      Unfortunately the only episode on the official South Park site is called Sorry England and the animation is worse than usual.

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  25. Re:Argument clinic by NibbleG · · Score: 3, Funny

    OH, oh I'm sorry, but this is abuse. You want room 12A, Just along the corridor.

  26. Re:dead model by markana · · Score: 5, Funny

    The way Detroit is going, soon they'll be pining for the Fords...

  27. Re:What I'd like to see of Python: laugh-track fre by St.+Alfonzo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Actually I believe that Python was produced at a time when the BBC was opposed to using any canned laugh track. The exterior shots laugh track were presumably recorded while playing back the tape to the audience as a prelude to the interior, live filming.

  28. Shoulda been public domain anyway by Jherek+Carnelian · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Under the original terms of US copyright law (14 years with optional 14 year renewal if author is still alive, and zero copyright protection for foreign works), most monty python material would already be in the public domain in the USA.

    Just something to think about...

  29. Re:The nightmare continues. by daeley · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's people like you what cause unrest.

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