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Lessig, Zittrain, Barlow To Square Off Against RIAA

NewYorkCountryLawyer writes "The RIAA's case in Boston against a 24-year-old grad student, SONY BMG Music v. Tenenbaum, in which Prof. Charles Nesson of Harvard Law School, along with members of his CyberLaw class, are representing the defendant, may shape up as a showdown between the Electronic Frontier and Big Music. The defendant's witness list includes names such as those of Prof. Lawrence Lessig (Author of 'Free Culture'), John Perry Barlow (former songwriter of The Grateful Dead and cofounder of the Electronic Frontier Foundation), Prof. Johan Pouwelse (Scientific Director of P2P-Next), Prof. Jonathan Zittrain (Author of 'The Future of the Internet — And How to Stop It'), Professors Wendy Seltzer, Terry Fisher, and John Palfrey, and others. The RIAA requested, and was granted, an adjournment of the trial, from its previously scheduled December 1st date, to March 30, 2009. (The RIAA lawyers have been asking for adjournments a lot lately, asking for an adjournment in UMG v. Lindor the other day because they were so busy preparing for the Tenenbaum December 1st trial ... I guess when you're running on hot air, you sometimes run out of steam)."

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  1. For mainstream spin see... by mcgrew · · Score: 5, Informative

    I submitted a story about this Monday, Constitutionality of P2P law "under attack" (rejected) after seeing it in an AP story in the Chicago Tribune. That story quoted NYCL, who it of course called Ray Beckerman. I wondered at the time why he hadn't submitted it himself.

    But at any rate, for the corporate media spin on this, here are a few links:
    Billion Dollar Charlie vs. the RIAA
    Legal Jujitsu in a File-Sharing Copyright Case
    Lawsuits Brought by Music Industry Are Unconstitutional, Lawyer Says
    Law professor fires back at song-swapping lawsuits (AP)
    Law Professor Takes on RIAA
    Prof: Penalty unfair, will help with $1M download lawsuit
    RIAA defendant enlists Harvard Law prof, students
    Harvard Professor: File-Sharing Lawsuits Unconstitutional

  2. Re:Before you start cheering them on... by CRCulver · · Score: 4, Informative

    The RIAA holds copyrights on recordings. The copyright on songs like Happy Birthday is held by songwriters' associations like BMI/ASCAP.

  3. Re:first post by BountyX · · Score: 5, Informative

    Since I keep getting modded down, I feel compelled to provide userful information. I apologize for the way I stated my first comment, but the RIAA is the guardian of an industry so antiquated and oppressive that having sympathy for these guys is a little like feeling sorry for a Georgia slaveholder after watching Sherman's troops fire his mansion and scatter his livestock. Here's an industry so bloated with executives and middlemen, all of them greedily slurping up profit, that the people who actually write the songs and play the music -- the "talent" -- are getting royally screwed in the royalty department. It's been like that for years. Anyways, harvard has the court documents posted here for all to see.

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  4. Re:Before you start cheering them on... by Rary · · Score: 3, Informative

    The RIAA holds copyrights on recordings. The copyright on songs like Happy Birthday is held by songwriters' associations like BMI/ASCAP.

    BMI and ASCAP are Performing Rights Organizations, and as such don't hold copyrights. They administer the payments of performance royalties to copyright holders.

    The "Happy Birthday to You" copyright is held by Time Warner.

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  5. Re:Not surprising at all by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 3, Informative

    Is this pro-bono or not? Anyone know?

    My guess is yes. The Judge specifically asked Prof. Nesson to take the case. It's in this transcript, where she asks Mr. Tenenbaum if he'd been contacted by Prof. Nesson yet.

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  6. Re:Before you start cheering them on... by sumdumass · · Score: 3, Informative

    Well, no. Kid Rock actually licenses his music from other when he uses it. He didn't just create a song that took parts of other people's works then think no one would care, I saw him explain this a while back when he did a cover of a Metallica song. About the only thing having the same song label (if that is true) has to do with it is perhaps more favorable licensing agreements or access to the artists.

  7. Re:A question about Happy Birthday logistics by Chris+Burke · · Score: 3, Informative

    Or have they filed millions of copyrights?

    Copyright 2234257612, Happy Birthday to You, Aaby version.
    Copyright 2234257613, Happy Birthday to You, Aaron version.
    Copyright 2234257614, Happy Birthday to You, Abe version.

    They only need a copyright on one version, and all the other versions are derivative works, which is a reserved right under copyright.

    That's why you can't make a proprietary Linux kernel by changing one variable name.

    The Name Game is the same way.

    The stupid part isn't being able to copyright a song that has a lyric that changes every time. The stupid part is that it's such a fundamental part of our culture that most people don't even realize it's copyrighted, and yet it's going to be for quite a long time yet.

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  8. Re:A question about Happy Birthday logistics by againjj · · Score: 3, Informative

    The stupid part is that it's such a fundamental part of our culture that most people don't even realize it's copyrighted, and yet it's going to be for quite a long time yet.

    Until 2030, as it was registered in 1935, if we assume that copyright is not lengthened again. But for us to assume would make an ass out of u and me.

  9. Re:Before you start cheering them on... by CRCulver · · Score: 3, Informative

    A lot of people complained about copyright even when terms were quite short. Publishers on one side of the Atlantic tried desperately to ignore the copyrights of publishers on the other side for decades. And copyright never made any sense at all to most of the world's population, being a peculiar Western concept that only rose within the last several hundred years. Even today, if you tell the typical Indian, Eastern Europe or Southeast Asia that there should be a law to prevent them duplicating media as they see fit, they'd think you're a madman.