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Lenovo Service Disables Laptops With a Text Message

narramissic writes "Lenovo plans to announce on Tuesday a service that allows users to remotely disable a PC by sending a text message. A user can send the command from a specified cell phone number — each ThinkPad can be paired with up to 10 cell phones — to kill a PC. The software will be available free from Lenovo's Web site. It will also be available on certain ThinkPad notebooks equipped with mobile broadband starting in the first half of 2009. 'You steal my PC and ... if I can deliver a signal to that PC that turns it off, hey, I'm good now,' said Stacy Cannady, product manager of security at Lenovo. 'The limitation here is that you have to have a WAN card in the PC and you must be paying a data plan for it,' Cannady added."

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  1. Frist psot? by h4x354x0r · · Score: 5, Funny

    From a stolen lapt

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  2. Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Pretty interesting security feature but not if your buddies get a hold of your cell phone.

    1. Re:Interesting by sgbett · · Score: 3, Informative

      I think you need to find different friends

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    2. Re:Interesting by chrb · · Score: 3, Informative

      Hardly. You can regain access to the laptop just by typing in a recovery password.

    3. Re:Interesting by theaveng · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Even if they don't, this gives a false sense of security.

      "if I can deliver a signal to that PC that turns it off, hey, I'm good now." Um, no, you're not. The thief can remove the hard drive and connect it to another PC to read its content.

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    4. Re:Interesting by RMH101 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not if you're using the built-in hardware encryption, it can't.
      And IBM are not going to give anyone a recovery password without proof of ownership.

    5. Re:Interesting by efuzed · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Not IBM; Lenovo, and will the Chinese government be able to now stop noisy bloggers better?

    6. Re:Interesting by Abstrackt · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think you need to find different friends

      I think almost everyone has an asshole "friend" that would pull a stunt like that.

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    7. Re:Interesting by AmigaMMC · · Score: 3, Funny
      >I think almost everyone has an asshole "friend" that would pull a stunt like that.

      I think you stopped being my friend a long time ago. :-p

    8. Re:Interesting by LandDolphin · · Score: 3, Informative

      IF the person who stole your laptop knows their way around a computer, sure. But the average person still is barely capable of navigating MySpace. If they press the power button, and it does not log on, it is going to be useless to them.

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    9. Re:Interesting by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Acid?

      Real Men use Thermite.

      Bonus: If the thief is holding it in their lap at the time, they have been REMOVED from the gene pool.

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    10. Re:Interesting by redxxx · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This is not about data protection. It is about making the device unusable. Just like you can block your phone when it is stolen.

      It will not stop thiefs of stealing your device. It will not protect your data. As far as I read it does not even claim to do that.

      So, all the talk about how this forces the drive encryption to activate by requiring a shutdown rather than a suspend/hibernate wasn't about protecting data?

      from TFA:

      Since hard disk drive encryption will not work properly if the PC is running or in hibernation mode, this disable feature ensures that the data is secure by shutting the machine down and allowing the hard disk drive encryption to work. If and when the ThinkPad laptop is recovered, the user can restore the notebook, its settings and the data contained on the PC by entering a password.

      So, there is nothing about protecting the data? Carry on.

  3. Hmmm by TheSpoom · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My normal Slashdot cynicism wants to find a problem with this technology, but I can't so far, other than that a smart thief would just make sure to remove the WAN card and flash the BIOS (possibly with a new serial number or the remote disable, uh, disabled).

    You win this time, Lenovo. *shakes fist*

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  4. Meh... by Lurker2288 · · Score: 4, Funny

    This would excite me more if I could send a remote command that would detonate a small brick of C4 in the laptop. Why disable the computer when you can disable the thief?

    1. Re:Meh... by couchslug · · Score: 4, Funny

      "You could always mod your laptop to generate a spark when the kill signal is received. Then all you need to do is pack it with C4."

      So much for being allowed to carry lappies on airliners, thank you very much! :)

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  5. Re:Useless by chrb · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The vast majority of thieves aren't even going to realise that this service is enabled. They certainly won't be deploying GPS jammers or reflashing the BIOS or opening the laptop up. And TFA article mentions that the whole point is to protect data by allowing users to shutdown access to an encrypted HDD that might still be open.

  6. Re:Useless by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Thieves typically dont have the IQ to do any of that. When I was robbed, we nailed the thief not only from the video cameras that he looked right at to give us a awesome face shot, but he stole my daughters cellphone. He left it on all the time reporting his position. The cops had his ass in less than 24 hours.

    Honestly thieves barely know how to use a screwdriver outside of prying a door or window with it. You seriously think one would do the delicate task of opening a laptop or flashing the bios? That's plain old funny.

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  7. Re:Implementation? by chrb · · Score: 4, Informative

    It looks like the disable is handled in the BIOS, so either the GPS hardware is capable of receiving SMS texts while the laptop is hibernating, or the text is received when the BIOS boots up. Either way, you just have to send one text - your cell network provider will store and forward it to the receiver, it's just a regular text.

  8. Wait, What? by meist3r · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So you're telling me there will be a GSM module in the laptop that is constantly connecting to my network to wait for such a kill signal? Like say, a tracing bug? I know it'll be a pain for the thief but what about me? What a craptacular idea. Having my laptop become my personal GSM tracking device. Where have I been? Wait lets ask my "anti theft"-device.

    1. Re:Wait, What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I am sure that if the government wanted to track you, they would use your cell phone which is on GSM/CDMA network nearly-100% of the time, or iPhone which has the added flexibility of GPS. If you are the type of person to care about you being tracked here or there, than don't purchase a Lenovo laptop with this feature.

      However what all the tin-foil crowd seems to forget is one fact: No one cares about 99.999% of you to date you, much less follow your every movement. Especially a Chinese laptop manufacturer.

      I would figure you would support this, since your super secret, AES-256 encrypted collection of blurry UFO pictures could be safe from the prying eyes of Joe the Laptop Thief.

  9. Re:reinstall? by NovaHorizon · · Score: 3, Funny

    and dismantling the entire laptop to reset the BIOS is actually FASTER than an OS reinstall..

  10. Most criminals are stupid anyway by hellion0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This feature doesn't seem to be aimed at stopping blackhats or organized criminals, two of the more "intelligent" varieties. No, this thing is meant to royally screw Joe Crackhead.

    The feature doesn't appear as if it's ever going to stop a sophisticated high-tech criminal, naturally. Nor does this seem the intent. Identity thieves and data miners don't even need possession of the laptop, so no good there. Even then, the new feature is easily defeated. Organized criminals tend to know what they're doing as well, and any safety measure can be defeated by competence and planning. Still, they're both rare enough.

    No, this sounds perfect for the two-bit junkie, the most common of criminals. Brick the laptop, especially remotely, and suddenly it's worthless for him to offload for his fix.

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  11. Re:Always assuming ... by RMingin · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes, it'll probably be as secure as the Lenovo BIOS supervisor passwords.

    (Hint: Supervisor password? Get a paperclip. The data pin goes to ground, boot laptop. Enter bios. Remove paperclip, set [new] supervisor password. It overwrites the old one. Which chip to mess with and which pins are which I leave to you and Google. Shouldn't take long.)

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  12. Perfect. by GWLlosa · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is exactly what we need in terms of laptop security. To you nay-sayers out there spinning doom and gloom scenarios about friends pranking your laptop with text messages, I can only assume that there is some secret passcode that you must send as part of the text-message to disable the machine. In fact, it should be convoluted, and hard to remember. Fortunately, as the proud owner of a brand-new Lenovo laptop, you can keep information like that stored right on the laptop, which you take everywhere.

  13. Re:reinstall? by chrb · · Score: 4, Informative

    It isn't quite that simple on a ThinkPad - the BIOS password is tied in to the TPM chip. And I really doubt your average thief is going to be building custom hardware and soldering it to the laptop mainboard...

  14. DIY by wytcld · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How about setting up a simple script that periodically polls a remote site - say a web page under your control? If it can't reach it, or it reaches it and gets a default response, no action's taken. If on the other hand the page returns an innocuous looking kill code, a small program is run that disables the BIOS? On the server side, you'd be mailed the IP your stolen laptop connected from, which might give you some location info.

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  15. Re:Useless by billcopc · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just use a Sony battery. It will explode in their lap, sooner or later!

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  16. Re:Useless by Thelasko · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Thieves typically dont have the IQ to do any of that.

    Remember, there are two kinds of thieves. There are amateurs and there are pros.

    Amateurs are desperate people, usually because of an addiction of some sort, who steal whenever an opportunity presents itself. They see a car with an unlocked door, or an open window and they act. These people are the most common type of thieves, and will be caught with this technology.

    Professionals steal things for a living. They are very calculated and know all of the security measures people use, and how to avoid them. This technology will not stop a professional. In fact, nothing will stop a professional. Professionals are why you buy insurance.

    Fortunately, there aren't many professional thieves. When you think about it, it's very difficult to become a professional thief. This is because a pro cannot be desperate. They need to have time to study their target and come up with a plan of attack. This requires a person with a certain personality, that doesn't steal out of last resort, but steals for some other reason. There aren't many people like this in the world, and most of them are caught before they become very good at stealing.

    My favorite piece of information about stopping thieves can be found here. (Warning, link contains flash video)

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  17. Even better by horza · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why not install Windows Vista, iTunes and the game Spore. That way you don't even need to send an SMS, just wait until code is activated progressively making the computer useless.

    Phillip.

  18. Re:Useless by Kent+Recal · · Score: 5, Funny

    Exactly. Smart thieves perform a thorough risk/reward calculation and a lot of planning before they go for target. They are near impossible to catch.

    I, for one, regularly steal rolls of toilet paper from work.
    I'll never get caught because I put a lot of forethought into each coup and perfectionized my strategy over years. I only lift one roll at a time so it doesn't get noticed and so I can at any time pretend to be just carrying it around because I need to "clean my desk or something". Plus, I always drop the roll into my bag while sitting at my desk and without looking down. Eyes must be focussed on screen, innocent facial expression - nobody would ever notice from a distance that I'm performing a felony under the table in just that moment!

    Bare the occassional accident (when I miss the bag and have to crawl under the table to recover the loot) I think I can safely claim that the perfect crime is possible and I have mastered it.