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Sending Secret Messages Via Google's SearchWiki

We discussed the advent of Google's SearchWiki when it was introduced a few days back. Now Lauren Weinstein offers a thought experiment in transmitting coded messages using SearchWiki, with a working example encoded into the results of this Google search.

160 comments

  1. the message by deander2 · · Score: 5, Informative

    "3 - Will more information about this be available later?"
    "4 - Self vs. others is always a major philosophical question."
    "5 - Destruct and destroy is not the best of attitudes, my friends."
    "6 - In any case, this list looks very useful."
    "7 - Five more entries could be added to that list."
    "8 - Seconds or thirds or even more helpings could add a lot of calories."
    "9 - Good entry. Very fine."
    "10 - Luck has nothing to do with these issues."

    1. Re:the message by micksam7 · · Score: 4, Informative

      1 & 2:

      "1 - This article looks good to me."
      "2 - Tape this article to the door of your office!"

    2. Re:the message by LaskoVortex · · Score: 4, Informative

      This tape will self destruct in five seconds. Good Luck!

      --
      Just callin' it like I see it.
    3. Re:the message by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OMFG! That's the secret message!

    4. Re:the message by hclewk · · Score: 5, Interesting
    5. Re:the message by troll8901 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it took me a few minutes to get it too.

      After that, I read TFA.

    6. Re:the message by LaskoVortex · · Score: 1

      After that, I read TFA.

      I'm not saying I'm brilliant or anything, but the decoded message is not in TFA, where A E {"Artcle", "Announcement"}, at least as far as I could find.

      --
      Just callin' it like I see it.
    7. Re:the message by ChienAndalu · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It went from low to high! Amazing!

    8. Re:the message by Chapter80 · · Score: 3, Informative

      SPOILER ALERT
      You need to read the first word of all ten messages to read the SECRET message. </duh>

    9. Re:the message by Kaukomieli · · Score: 1

      11. - ???
      12. - PROFIT!

      it's google after all.

    10. Re:the message by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "1 - This article looks good to me."
      "2 - Tape this article to the door of your office!"

      3 - ?????
      4 - Profit!

    11. Re:the message by deander2 · · Score: 1

      yeah, i don't know why 1 and 2 didn't show for me.

  2. STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously, I'm all for change but this is FUCKING RIDICULOUS!

    The main page is now TITLES ONLY? WTF?

    The more you try to "upgrade" Slashdot, the more useless it becomes. Morons.

    1. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Indeed, What the fuck. STOP. If I wanted Digg I'd go there.

      1) I only go to my profile to see if I've been modded. I don't care about some pseudo fire hose.
      2) WHAT THE FUCK have you done to the main page. I actually want to read TFS.

    2. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

      Weird, I don't see the main page that way.

      The upgrade that bothers me is my profile -- I now have one extra click to get to "comments" in the old style. But you know, I'm really not going to bitch about one extra bookmark-able click.

      --
      Don't thank God, thank a doctor!
    3. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      It almost seems like some pranksters did it. When articles get voted down a lot they turn into "just" the title like that. It seems like someone went through and did it to all of them a lot.

    4. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Turn off the beta index in your preferences.

    5. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Heh, I switched to classic view ages ago, and it looks like this is part of that because my view hasn't been affected. I tried out the new system for about 10 mins, decided it sucked, and switched back. You can change the settings here (at least, you can in classic mode).

      AC to avoid off-topic mods.

    6. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I would mod you +1, Informative, if I had the points. Sadly, some purveyors of online forums believe that because they created it, they aren't answerable to the users -- they do first and ask forgiveness later. Of course, there's the flip--one of the earlier posters in your thread mentioned Digg; Despite it being a really crappy feed, it listens to its userbase. Which is probably the reason why it's so crappy. -_- In days of old, Slashdot would make 'meta' posts about upcoming features or changes to the main page, thus allowing for feedback while still tipping the hat to the authors. Maybe we should petition to bring back that bit of forward thinking...

      --
      #fuckbeta #iamslashdot #dicemustdie
    7. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by djupedal · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The main page stacked w/titles is discouraging to use (not enough information thwarts scanning and forces click-thru...or is that the marketing plan now?) and visually distracting via misuse, or lack of, white space -- the rework to the comments page/list is confusing. Please stop messing with the layout, thanks.

    8. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by Walpurgiss · · Score: 1

      Yes. I refreshed when I got off work today and it was titles only. Turned off beta index and it's all good again.

    9. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by argent · · Score: 1

      Except the comments are surrounded by a bunch of extra noise, and they don't seem to be consistently bundled into articles.

    10. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      The problem is, it asks to log in. I want my default precious AC view to look sensible dammit.

    11. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by blhack · · Score: 1

      Website layout changes like this have never made any sense to me.

      Firstly, this is a technical website. We aren't impressed by idiotic 2 year old CSS trends. The ability to collapse or expand stories doesn't wow us anymore and it probably never did.

      Second, if this is somehow easier on the database, or faster (which i really really highly doubt), TELL US! Explain it to use! WHYYY are you changing the default layout?

      --
      NewslilySocial News. No lolcats allowed.
    12. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by DarrenBaker · · Score: 3, Funny

      My review: Shit Sandwich.

    13. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Help and preferences, Your Preferences, Index, General, Use Beta index.

    14. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is this a cunning way to encourage people to sign in while they waste time, thus providing Slashdot with 2) ... 3) profit?

    15. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by kemorgan · · Score: 3, Informative

      Use this to get back to classic mode.

    16. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by Suddenly_Dead · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I also dislike how they got rid "old news", though I'm sure I can reenable it somewhere in my profile (which assume I'm logged in). Now, reading things I missed from yesterday requires another click, another wait, and is harder to skim.

    17. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is not good. I dont want to log in, I just want to browse and pick the articles I read in my limited surfing time. Please return slashdot to the useful site it was, or the casual browser will be gone.

    18. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

      That's what I mean -- by default. Click on the "comments" tab and it's back the way it was -- simple comment headlines, consistently bundled into articles.

      --
      Don't thank God, thank a doctor!
    19. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This worked for me, the GP's suggestion didn't. Thanks!

    20. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      "Click on the "comments" tab and it's back the way it was

      Except where has the "last X out of Y comments" header gone?

      Where are my Freaks, Fans and Foes?

      I don't understand the motivation. The feedback on the "idle" layout was an overwhelming "it sucks", why extend the suckiness to the rest of the site?

      --
      And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
    21. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by berend+botje · · Score: 1
      Maybe. Or it might be a ploy to finally get rid of the last few nerds that (more out of habit than otherwise) still frequent Slashdot.

      Seems to be working...

    22. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by scientus · · Score: 1

      These titles are useless i like the news on the page then click on it to get comments.

    23. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What I do (using Mozilla/Firefox) is select View > Page Style > No Style.

      Actually, most of the web is so much more readable this way. I'm almost at the point where I'm going to configure moz' to load a custom stylesheet full of !important declarations to remove all formatting, by default, for all pages I view. (I know that both Opera and IE can do this too).

      But then, I browse with images and JavaScript off. Half the time, I'm browsing with Lynx anyway. So I guess maybe it's not for everyone.

    24. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by roman_mir · · Score: 2, Informative

      there are no user preferences to get rid of firehose BS. I used to be able to see comments by going to http://slashdot.org/~roman_mir now I see firehose there and instead I have to go to http://slashdot.org/~roman_mir/comments and this is really annoying.

    25. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Switch the main page link from

      http://slashdot.org/index2.pl?section=mainpage&duration=7&startdate=&index=1

      to

      http://slashdot.org/index.pl?section=mainpage&duration=7&startdate=&index=1

      and you're done :-)

    26. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      Dude, on the very few things we have ever agreed on, I need to say give them hell. Your spot on and I wasn't even going to say anything until I realized who was saying it.

      It two people who are usually at extreme opposite opinions can unite on this one thing, then the truth really is that it sucks and should be gone.

    27. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      amen. PLEASE PLEASE revert to normal slashdot layout. This one makes my head hurt, not to mention being ugly as sin.

      I'm suffering a massive overdose of spare time now that i'm staying the hell away from slashdot until it's made readable again.
      thanks.

    28. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by DerCed · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually you have to switch off the "Use Beta" checkbox that is in the "Index" preferences. I did not find it quickly, but it certainly pays off. The old school Slashdot homepage will greet you in the morning!

      Slashdot folks, what the fuck do you think you are doing?! If you will ever remove classic mode I will personally travel to the states and punch you in the nuts!

    29. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by PinkyDead · · Score: 1

      WTF is that "pseudo fire hose" anyway? I can't see any pattern or sense in the posts on it. I'd rather not see it one way or the other.

      The Karma Whores have spoken /.!

      --
      Genesis 1:32 And God typed :wq!
    30. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by makomk · · Score: 1

      It almost seems like some pranksters did it. When articles get voted down a lot they turn into "just" the title like that. It seems like someone went through and did it to all of them a lot.

      Something like that, perhaps. You see the black bars next to the article titles? That's the article score, and black is the lowest possible, lower than even newly-submitted articles.

    31. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah. I guess they're trying to force us to get an account.

      Looks like shit. My eyes are burning. Also, totally useless now.

    32. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by Jupix · · Score: 1

      Yeah, though I don't think this was a prank. More like something broke in the rating system and the mainpage isn't getting any ratings (resulting in no stories shown in full).

      I did click around with the preferences thingy and even though I selected "all full", which I think should ignore ratings, the mainpage was still titles only. This does go against the above a bit.

      Personally I switched to classic mode while they fix the beta.

    33. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please i miss quickly scanning of the articles! The titles are not enough and usually unrelated content gives me some idea in another field.

      Please do not over design the Slashdot it will be a huge mistake.

    34. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shit, until I read this I thought the browser on this PC was borking the main page. That's deliberate?

    35. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been reading /. for years and been getting steadily more unhappy with the front page. This is the worst yet.

      The reason you have put the headline is in green is to call it out. When it's ALL GREEN it's just unreadable. Plus you have to click to actually read something.

      And one more thing. "You can change the defaults - get an account and twiddle some settings!" -- this is NOT a valid argument. Most people accept the default. If the default sucks, those people's experience will suck.

    36. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by teh+moges · · Score: 1

      Thank you.

      In the words of Digg users: SLASHDOT FAIL

    37. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speaking as the GGP, yeah, that was the one which really should have been modded up. Mine was for switching back from the new comment system - I'd thought they were both based on the same setting.

      So, er, MOD UP GP.

    38. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by A_Lost_Frenchman · · Score: 1

      Dear Slashdot,

      You messed up the main page again !

      Does it mean I have to be logged in to read the story now ? Could it be one of these lame ass strategies from the marketing department to keep us logged in ?

      I expect you apologetic answer soon.

      Regards,
      __
      Just Passing through

    39. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who bricked Slashdot?

    40. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by marcosdumay · · Score: 1

      Can you moderate? I am on classic, and the moderation simply stopped working a few weeks ago.

    41. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As someone who has 0 and I mean 0 interest in creating/managing yet another online profile with all the attendant hassle, esp logging on just to browse slashdot's articles. On every machine I use. Several times a day. (No, I'm not cashing the username/password on the machine I use at work. Thanks for asking) I have no interest in posting comments, I've been reading slashdot since the late nineties and this is the first time I've ever been moved to post anything.

      Is this just a dick move to get everyone to use RSS readers instead of browsing the homepage? Guess you can say goodbye to the add revenue generated by having one of the most browsed pages on the web. Has your hosting service started charging Slashdot more?

    42. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      regular moderation yes, but the new meta-mod has no submit button or any positive confirmation that you have submitted the mods. terrible UI.

    43. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

      Doesn't 'beta' leave the impression that some day it'll be out of beta and we'll be stuck with it?

    44. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by wembley+fraggle · · Score: 1

      Looks fine to me. But then again, I guess I know how to change the view preferences. By, you know, clicking the preferences link.

      Double moron on you, moron.

    45. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by TubeSteak · · Score: 1

      Actually you have to switch off the "Use Beta" checkbox that is in the "Index" preferences. I did not find it quickly, but it certainly pays off. The old school Slashdot homepage will greet you in the morning!

      http://slashdot.org/users.pl?op=edithome
      I really hope that was an opt-in choice which I forgot about selecting. /get off my lawn

      --
      [Fuck Beta]
      o0t!
    46. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by TubeSteak · · Score: 1

      there are no user preferences to get rid of firehose BS.

      Not only is there no way to get rid of it, but on my page, they're all old stories.

      The newest one

      Idle: Don't Worry, Sir, I'm From the Internet 2008-08-14 10:50
      Posted by samzenpus on Thursday August 14, @10:50AM

      Idle. From August.
      There's 2 more from 2008 and 7 from 2007.
      WTF?

      It's not even a useful 'feature'.

      --
      [Fuck Beta]
      o0t!
    47. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by argent · · Score: 1

      I don't understand the motivation. The feedback on the "idle" layout was an overwhelming "it sucks", why extend the suckiness to the rest of the site?

      Because it worked so well for Yahoo.

    48. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by rhendershot · · Score: 1

      that won't work for me, the beta (time format) is already off. I still see my last public post with the menu bar below it.

      count me in, these changes are def. for the worse.

    49. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      The User page is still bad, and it still makes the simple task of "hey, have my recent posts been moderated?" about 20 times more ugly and annoying than before.

      http://schend.net/images/screenshots/slashdot/slashdot_user_template.png

      There's the screenshot I put in with the SourceForge bug report related to the user template change. They never read or fix any of the bugs I submit, but there you go if you're interested.

    50. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      Oh, and I just found out it fails utterly on an iPhone. As if you needed any more reasons to hate it.

    51. Re:STOP MESSING WITH SLASHDOT by Mozk · · Score: 1

      Why the hell when I log in do I get redirected to some firehose page called 'untitled' sitting next to another one called 'daddypants', and why can't I deleted these? Reloading http://slashdot.org/ shows my normal low bandwidth page, but what the hell?

      --
      No existe.
  3. Not very stenographic by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's a nice idea, but the messages are still being sent in the clear, and anyone monitoring your internet traffic would be able to readily identify which sites were visited and in which order. If you're trying to hide something, this is a poor way of doing so. Especially since it's likely there would be a need for repeated communication, and there's still the problem of "key exchange" as it were. In short, it might fool a casual observer, but I doubt it would get past someone with training -- this is something even an FBI field agent would likely pick up on (note the sarcasm). A proper stenographic technique should perform even under close surveillance.

    --
    #fuckbeta #iamslashdot #dicemustdie
    1. Re:Not very stenographic by osu-neko · · Score: 1

      It's a nice idea, but the messages are still being sent in the clear, and anyone monitoring your internet traffic would be able to readily identify which sites were visited and in which order. ...

      Okay... um... you're not qualified to send secret messages.

      The article in question assumes the sender isn't stupid enough to post it all, in order, from the same IP. Anyone monitoring my internet traffic would likely catch zero or at most one piece of the message, and knowing what order they were posted in would do nothing but confuse them if they were silly enough to think that mattered.

      --
      "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies."
    2. Re:Not very stenographic by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      Well, sort of. Until someone spills the beans that your doing it in a certain way and the home office or homeland security end up using the alternate IP's to associate you with other links to criminals and builds a conspiracy case or something out of it.

      Seriously, think about this. Lets say you send a secrete message from 5 different IPs. Now assuming they aren't bots, then that means you had computer access at five different places. Now, the feds take down one of the people who received the messages, they check his computer and find your messages scribbles on a note pad and automatically link all the IPs to the source of the message. They then camp out and watch those places looking to see who shows up and leaves, they corrodinate the IP traffic to when you are there or not and boom, they have linked you to each computer each time and boom, it's done.

      Granted, that scenario requires someone to be doing something that law enforcement would want to be involved with. If it is a jealous wife or a coworker or something, then it doesn't seem like anything that complex would happen. But then again, for those, PGP email or IM chat or IRC chat, or a hidden website or something less elaborate would probably do. It would seem (to me anyways) that if your needed the elaborate anonymity that it would be more then hiding something from a coworker or wife or something.

    3. Re:Not very stenographic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How did you get modded +5 interesting? Apart from misspelling steganography you've confused it for cryptography.

    4. Re:Not very stenographic by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      A proper stenographic technique should perform even under close surveillance.

      That's untrue of any cryptographic technique - it's very difficult to hide the fact that you are communicating and to fool traffic analysis.

    5. Re:Not very stenographic by Java+Pimp · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's a nice iDea, but the messages aRe stIll beiNg sent in the clear, and anyone monitoring your internet traffic would be able to readily identify which sites were visited and in which order. If you're trying to hide something, this is a poor way of doing so. Especially since it's liKely there would be a need for repeated coMmunicatiOn, and theR E's still the prOblem of "key exchange" as it were. In short, it might fool a casual obserVer, but I doubt it would get pAst someone with training -- this is something even an FBI fieLd agenT would lIkely pick up on (NotE the sarcasm). A proper stenographic technique should perform even under close surveillance.

      I see what you did there!

      --
      Ascalante: Your bride is over 3,000 years old.
      Kull: She told me she was 19!
    6. Re:Not very stenographic by sam_paris · · Score: 1

      I think you miss-understand how this would be used.

      I buy 5 brand new cheap laptops with cash each from a different store. I go war-driving and find a random 5 random wifi connections. With each un-traceable laptop I make a searchwiki message. (Each with a different IP address which is not linked in any way with my real name or identity)

      After using each laptop it is trashed and never used again. Ahead of time I have met with a confederate in person and told him the queries I will be using and how he can decode the message.

      Now tell me how anyone could possibly put that message together by linking the five pieces together? I don't care whether you're an FBI field agent or the head of the CIA, there is no simple way.

      In your example you seem to think that anyone trying to send secret messages over the internet would be using their home connection! I think you're underestimating the average terrorist and hacker.

    7. Re:Not very stenographic by FredFredrickson · · Score: 1

      If you used a proxy or TOR, it's very easy to use many IP addresses, once each. Never to be repeated.

      --
      Belief? Hope? Preference?The Existential Vortex
    8. Re:Not very stenographic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      careful with that monitor.. you'll burn your eyes out!

    9. Re:Not very stenographic by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      Well, that's a possibility but then again, if they are monitoring your communications (man in the middle style attack) with a key logger, your still in danger of being busted.

      Of course this does depend on who is after you and how hard they want you. The cops can use key loggers and such, some places need more court supervision then others and so on.

      There isn't really any fool proof way of avoiding detection on this. It's probably better to just find a secure channel of communications and take steps that separate you from the messages.

    10. Re:Not very stenographic by noidentity · · Score: 1

      A stenographer's work must be easily readable. Maybe you were thinking of steganography?

    11. Re:Not very stenographic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More Ovaltine please!

  4. kdawson by ActionDesignStudios · · Score: 3, Funny

    Seriously, where did you find this kdawson guy and how exactly did he manage to become an 'editor'?

    1. Re:kdawson by stonedcat · · Score: 0

      The cool thing is that in your preferences you can untick the authors you don't want to see stories from under Index/Authors.

      --
      You can't take the sky from me.
    2. Re:kdawson by ActionDesignStudios · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's not that I don't want to read his stories, it's that I want him to not suck so bad at his job.

    3. Re:kdawson by Hal_Porter · · Score: 5, Funny

      In your Preferences, click the Suck? tab and uncheck the kdawson checkbox.

      --
      echo -e 'global _start\n _start:\n mov eax, 2\n int 80h\n jmp _start' > a.asm; nasm a.asm -f elf; ld a.o -o a;
    4. Re:kdawson by Mr.+Firewall · · Score: 1

      ... this kdawson guy ...

      I think kdawson is a girl.

      --
      In times of universal deceit, telling the truth gets you modded -1 Troll
    5. Re:kdawson by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      I'm using Opera, so it doesn't work for me, you insensitive clod!

  5. hmm ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    This reminds me of the secret messages as /. comments we see here, under anonymous and spammylike, always at -1.

    Seems like some botnet control code thingy.

    1. Re:hmm ... by Hal_Porter · · Score: 2, Funny

      <bot-order>
      <attack>
              <site>digg.com</site>
              <type>DDOS</type>
              <prejudice>extreme</prejudice>
      </attack>
      </bot-order>

      --
      echo -e 'global _start\n _start:\n mov eax, 2\n int 80h\n jmp _start' > a.asm; nasm a.asm -f elf; ld a.o -o a;
  6. The main page is all screwed up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't see the stories anymore... I've read Slashdot religiously for the last decade... if the front page is going to look like this than count me out. It says I can't see the stories without logging in first... Is this an error? who is the stinking person at the helm right now?

    1. Re:The main page is all screwed up by argent · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's a secret message letting you know about the upcoming integration of slashdot and google.

    2. Re:The main page is all screwed up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I think you're mistaken. I think you've taken the + sign as being to expand the headings and see the full story, simply because every other 'collapsed section' GUI would do it that way. It isn't. The + sign is to vote for the story to be on the main page. Yes, I know it's already on the main page. Anyway, if enough people use the - sign then the story will appear collapsed instead of in full... yes, I know they're all already collapsed. It's complicated. You'll understand when you're older. Or younger. Or not, actually.

    3. Re:The main page is all screwed up by smoker2 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm not sure if you're serious, but last night all the rss feeds for slashdot (http://rss.slashdot.org/Slashdot/slashdot) were ending at a google error page.

    4. Re:The main page is all screwed up by argent · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure if you're serious

      That's the joy of the Internet. You make what you think is a joke and it turns out someone's already doing it and it turns out to be the next big thing, and you don't get diddly. Like, you know, when Microsoft made the first email program that actually supported the Good Times virus hoax.

      Next time I think of something funny I'll file a patent application instead.

      Wait, that's a joke... oh, crap.

  7. Now I can die! by Ruder.Than.U · · Score: 1

    My life is complete! I can now send coded messeges to others... Woowoowoowoowoowoo !!! (no, I am not a relative of Dr. Zoidberg)

    1. Re:Now I can die! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My life is complete as well. I bid thee a farewell new slashdot... with you many title minions, Great overlord of all.

  8. This is not news. by moniker127 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    WTF the internet can be used for communication?

    Who'd of thunk it?

    Seriously though, how the fuck is this news and why the fuck was it posted on the main page?

  9. It's the Caesar code by marxmarv · · Score: 1

    "on the internet". I can has patent?

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  10. Rly dumb, but indeed possible by heavensrevenge · · Score: 1

    Message: This Tape Will Self Destruct In Five Seconds Good Luck

    1. Re:Rly dumb, but indeed possible by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      Yes, really dumb. There is no spool. The second message should have started with "Message".

      Even Mission: Impossible didn't always say "tape". Sometimes it was, "This record...", "This film...", "This disc..." (1980's version), and sometimes even, "Please dispose of this recording in the usual manner." One mission was delivered on the back of a card that could be pulverized in one hand.

      At least though the self-destruction is right. I still haven't seen one sign of the message in the results.

      And it seems spammers monitor google trends and modify their own pages to come up in these popular results.

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  11. Not reliable as soon as Google changes the results by sonofabeach · · Score: 1

    It's an interesting idea, but I don't see how it would be reliable since as soon as Google updates its search results the message would become irretrievably fragmented.

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  12. It Works!!! by PPH · · Score: 2, Funny

    If I want communicate my desire to receive p0rn, I enter the term 'p0rn' into Google and someone out there on the interweb sends me links to p0rn.

    --
    Have gnu, will travel.
    1. Re:It Works!!! by troll8901 · · Score: 1

      Of course it works. That person works full-time just for you. Your $8.95/month pays his salary.

  13. It's obvious... by Star+Particle · · Score: 2, Informative

    but only obvious if you manage to find all 10 comments. When I did the Google search, I didn't see comments 8, 9, or 10. I had to combine my results with numbers 3-10 listed in the first post to actually get the entire list. Did anybody else notice this? Can wiki comments be removed or bumped out of the search?

    Anyway, for completeness:
    "1 - This article looks good to me."
    "2 - Tape this article to the door of your office!"
    "3 - Will more information about this be available later?"
    "4 - Self vs. others is always a major philosophical question."
    "5 - Destruct and destroy is not the best of attitudes, my friends."
    "6 - In any case, this list looks very useful."
    "7 - Five more entries could be added to that list."
    "8 - Seconds or thirds or even more helpings could add a lot of calories."
    "9 - Good entry. Very fine."
    "10 - Luck has nothing to do with these issues."

  14. Secret Message to Lauren by bill0755 · · Score: 1

    Ouyay eednay a ewnay obbyhay. - Anonymous

  15. who gives a rats behind. by EdelFactor19 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    complaining about the potential for abuse is like complaining your search could pull up a porn site. its retarted. if you dont like it then a. keep them minimized and dont read them, or b. go use a different search engine. honestly after reading this lady's page i think she's a paranoid nut who thinks its her job to police everyone.

    in short she's a moronic douche.

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    EdelFactor
    1. Re:who gives a rats behind. by Firkragg14 · · Score: 1

      If we dont police every random possible missuse of everything in existance however dumb then the terrorists will win

    2. Re:who gives a rats behind. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      honestly after reading this lady's page i think she's a paranoid nut who thinks its her job to police everyone.

      in short she's a moronic douche.

      Personally I don't think he's moronic, but we could agree to disagree on that. However, Lauren Weinstein is unmistakably a dude.

      http://www.vortex.com/lauren

    3. Re:who gives a rats behind. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      complaining about the potential for abuse is like complaining your search could pull up a porn site. its retarted.

      Are you posting by SMS? I hope so, because otherwise, there are these nifty little symbols called punctuation that would make reading your blather so much more readable!

      It's spelled like this: retarded, although you did manage to spell "douche" correctly. Go figure...

    4. Re:who gives a rats behind. by EdelFactor19 · · Score: 1

      Oops my mistake. My apologies to Lauren, not meant as an insult. I had skipped the about me stuff and just read the article/blog; and made a poor assumption. Thanks to responder.

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      EdelFactor
  16. Slashdot by Randle_Revar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What the hell? I cant see anything but the headlines!

    What happened to the articles and tags?!

    1. Re:Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the hell? I cant see anything but the headlines!

      April fools!

      No, wait, that's not for several months yet... WTF?

    2. Re:Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's called Web 2.0. In a typical misunderstanding of the concept, a site isn't Web 2.0 unless you force the user to do a lot of button pressing that would be unnecessary in a well-designed static page. Remember everything that gave Flash a bad rap? Say hello again.

      This could just be a server glitch. The sad thing is /.'s been sliding so bad with Idle &tc lately, I can't help but think they really might be serious about trying headlines-only.

    3. Re:Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks like index2.pl is the culprit. Replace with index.pl in the URL and things are back to normal.

    4. Re:Slashdot by Randle_Revar · · Score: 1

      Thanks!

      Although that fixes that problem (until/unless they make the beta the main version), the user pages are still rubbish.

    5. Re:Slashdot by isorox · · Score: 5, Funny

      What the hell? I cant see anything but the headlines!

      What happened to the articles and tags?!

      Bring back OMG PONIES!!!!!1!!1

    6. Re:Slashdot by Randle_Revar · · Score: 1

      >Bring back OMG PONIES!!!!!1!!1

      It would certainly be an improvement!

  17. STOP MESSING WITH MY HEAD! by Ostracus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Since Slashreaders have a YRO section (and hence hew to principles of "I'm in control"). I recommend we have a basic XML feed from the server and everyone running Greasemonkey on their end can pick the features and layout they can live with. Slashdot may even offer a few premades to get things started.

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  18. http://slashdot.org/index.pl?usebeta=0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://slashdot.org/index.pl?usebeta=0

    That worked for me. Many thanks!

  19. That was fast by declain · · Score: 5, Funny

    Top 10 google trends:

    Today's Hot Trends (USA)
    1. dancing with the stars 2008 winner
    2. orthogonal terwilliger accordion
    3. siri pinter
    4. chelsea handler playboy
    5. brooke burke
    6. who won dancing with the stars season 7
    7. the shield finale
    8. the shield forum
    9. melioidosis
    10. callies biscuits

    It seems that a lot of people are suddenly interested in orthogonal terwilliger accordion. I wonder why?

    1. Re:That was fast by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      I can see it now. Tomorrow after reviewing google trends Steve Ballmer will send out his goons to either hire this fellow Terwilliger or "buy him out".

    2. Re:That was fast by jc42 · · Score: 1

      So how soon can I buy a Microsoft accordion?

      Cue the jokes about how you'd play one ...

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    3. Re:That was fast by LostCluster · · Score: 1

      And furthermore, as the #2 query of the day Google must have decided it was time update the search results, and now you just get coverage of the hack, not the hack itself.

    4. Re:That was fast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is a really annoying and misleading marketing campaign. Don't get me wrong, I love my diagonal terwilliger accordion, but the orthogonal ones just suck.

    5. Re:That was fast by DeskLazer · · Score: 1

      why wasn't the huntington's disease experimental trial on there, along with searches on olivia wilde/13 if melioidosis made it there...

    6. Re:That was fast by arkhan_jg · · Score: 1

      What gets me is the text ad beneath it:

      >> Official Site
      Orthogonal terwilliger accordion. Updated daily news service. Latest link, photo , video and more about orthogonal terwilliger accordion.

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  20. Google Trends by TehDuffman · · Score: 1

    http://www.google.com/trends/hottrends\ Wow hit number 2 in less than an hour

    1. Re:Google Trends by fatphil · · Score: 1

      Dropped off now. However, what's utterly clear from the current top 100 is that almost the entirety of it is full of googlespam, presumably from zombie botnets.

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  21. I think you mean Stenanographic by svunt · · Score: 1

    Stenography is what happens in court rooms, stenanography is the hiding of messages in plain sight.

    1. Re:I think you mean Stenanographic by root_42 · · Score: 1

      Stenography is what happens in court rooms, stenanography is the hiding of messages in plain sight.

      And again, amiss: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steganography
      HTH

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    2. Re:I think you mean Stenanographic by svunt · · Score: 1

      I had a feeling I was correcting with my own mistake, thanks for the correction.

  22. Secret Message Decrypted: by ancient_kings · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Be sure to drink your Ovaltine."

  23. Hmmmm, sounds like a task for the super hero of .. by 3seas · · Score: 1

    ...homeleand security...

  24. secrect messages on slash dot by alabandit · · Score: 1

    i just post my secret message on some online form that allows anonymous posting. give a relevant post and then add a foot note

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    100010010101 - www.google.com

    --
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  25. The security implications are incredible! by David+Gerard · · Score: 1

    My God, this is incredible! This could be worse than terrorists sending messages via Twitter or encoding them in child porn.

    Google is clearly a TERRORIST WEAPON and an ENEMY OF THE FREE WORLD. Next we'll find out they're probably part of the Icelandic terrorist financial conspiracy.

    So everyone should use Windows Live Search instead. No-one ever got fired for buying Microsoft. Probably.

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    1. Re:The security implications are incredible! by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Don't you mean the terrorist financial conspiracy of Iceland?
      --with Apologies to Monty Python.
      IN order to make up for may lame attempt, here is the actual dialog:
      Brian: Excuse me. Are you the Judean People's Front?
      Reg: Fuck off! We're the People's Front of Judea

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  26. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The new layout is awful. I don't expect it will last.

  27. Sending Secret Messages - alternatives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here are some alternative ideas: electronic alternatives to private messages & email https://thementalmilitia.com/forums/index.php?topic=16784.msg230536#msg230536 & https://thementalmilitia.com/forums/index.php?topic=16784.msg230527#msg230527 also these 2 methods could send plaintext or use with encryption: electronic alternative - no sender ID https://thementalmilitia.com/forums/index.php?topic=16784.msg237125#msg237125 no sender SMTP info but emailed to you within 5 minutes https://thementalmilitia.com/forums/index.php?topic=16784.msg233443#msg233443

  28. orthogonal terwilliger accordion Ann Colter? by DJRumpy · · Score: 1

    Here's the link showing slashdat traffic generated querying this link: http://www.google.com/trends/hottrends?q=orthogonal+terwilliger+accordion&date=2008-11-25&sa=X Does anyone else see this when the click the above link? ---- orthogonal terwilliger accordion Hotness: On Fire Related searches: ann coulter jaw wired shut, ann coulter, ann coulter jaw, ann coulter breaks jaw, ann coulter broken jaw Peak: 10PM (PST) ---- Some sort of secret code? ;)

  29. Destroyed already by ymgve · · Score: 1

    And now any supposedly hidden message has been completely destroyed by all the sites picking up the story.

  30. I use /. by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 2, Funny

    I am posting a special hidden message right now...can you try and imagine what I might be saying...
      so any luck on solving this mystery... I think you might guess wrong.

    Those who thought "Hi Bill" was the message...
    you get an E for effort, it was hidden in plain sight, but was not the message...

    The winner is the one who thought ..."I think he is saying this is a dumb story, anyone can figure out ways of hiding information in plain site using ANY website, newspaper, tv ad etc."

  31. Seconded.... by tacokill · · Score: 1

    Is there a mirror of OMG Ponies!!!1!11?

    I've been telling my wife about it for a few years now and I'd really like to show her. If someone has a screenshot or mirror, please post it.
    I fondly remember when my favorite tech discussion site went pink....with ponies. And I've never laughed harder in my life. I think I'll remember that April fools for a very very long time.

    1. Re:Seconded.... by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      I won't link to a screenshot because I don't want to melt someone's server but a Google image search for slashdot omg ponies will give you a lot of examples.

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  32. WHAT THE FUCK? by ZERO1ZERO · · Score: 1
    Am I the only one who has no frikking idea what these messages are, or where they are or how to find them or what the heck this article is on about?

    Someone please explain where you are finding these numbered lists of seemingly random sentences?

    Yes I am logged into google, all I see is a up arrow and a cross beside each result and some search results for the orwellian accordian thing. I seriously don't get this.

    Jusging from the comments it appears it doesn't matter but I feel like I'm missing something obvious here.

  33. Send secret messages to neighbors... by Venik · · Score: 1

    Send secret messages to neighbors: stick your ass out of the window and fart in Morse code.

  34. LSD in the coffee machine. by argent · · Score: 1

    TELL US! Explain it to use! WHYYY are you changing the default layout?

    LSD in the coffee machine at SourceForge?

    Next thing, we'll hear that they're going to upgrade from CVS and SVN to Visual SourceSafe.

    1. Re:LSD in the coffee machine. by badkarmadayaccount · · Score: 1

      As an offended acid head, I must say I am rally offended - take that back! Even crack heads and meth junkies don't deserve that!

      --
      I know tobacco is bad for you, so I smoke weed with crack.
  35. Re:related searches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I love the "related searches":

    ann coulter jaw wired shut, ann coulter, ann coulter jaw, ann coulter breaks jaw, ann coulter broken jaw

    Not sure I see the relation, though.

  36. What about meta-moderation ? by dargaud · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Since we are complaining about /. recent changes, I want to pipe about the metamoderation: I don't understand how it runs anymore. On the firehose (and now main) page you click [+] if the articles are good. Also on the moderation page, if you see a comment moderated insightful and it is so, you click [+]. OK. Now what if it's flaimebait or troll and moderated as such ? Do I click [+] to indicate that the moderation is accurate or do I click [-] to imply that it sucks and the comment should go to the pit of hell ?

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    1. Re:What about meta-moderation ? by creepynut · · Score: 1

      Please someone answer this. Taco? I don't get it either, and it's completely put me off metamoderating.
      At least put in a description on the metamoderation page to explain what we're supposed to do.

      I've been stuck in the exact same pit of confusion, am I moderating the comment, or the moderation? Just tell me how to moderate a comment that was rightfully modded troll/flamebait/etc.

    2. Re:What about meta-moderation ? by dwye · · Score: 1

      I've been stuck in the exact same pit of confusion, am I moderating the comment, or the moderation? Just tell me how to moderate a comment that was rightfully modded troll/flamebait/etc.

      Meta-moderation is moderating the original moderation. If they wanted you to moderate the comment, they would call it moderation instead. When they introduce moderating the meta-moderators, they will call it meta-meta-moderation .

      Please, does no one understand simple PhD level Latin and Philosophy of Knowledge, anymore?

    3. Re:What about meta-moderation ? by creepynut · · Score: 1

      I understand what meta-moderation is, but I don't understand what I'm supposed to say anymore.

      It used to be simple. You say the moderation was fair, unfair, or neither.

      Comment: slashdot sucks!!!
      Moderation: Troll
      ( ) Fair ( ) Unfair ( ) Neither

      But now it is more complicated:

      Comment: slashdot sucks!!!
      Moderation: Troll
      [+] ( ) Funny ( ) Insightful ( ) Informative
      [-] ( ) Troll ( ) Flamebait ( ) Offtopic

      (Disclaimer: It's been a few weeks since I've metamoderated so this might not be completely representative of the screen.)

      On the old system, I would simply select "Fair" if the comment deserved the Troll moderation.

      Now what do I pick? Do I pick Troll to agree with the moderation (which really is just moderating the comment a second time), or do I pick one of the [+] options to agree with the moderation?

    4. Re:What about meta-moderation ? by GrayNimic · · Score: 1
      Currently, it looks like Meta-Moderation has been reduced to simple +/- ... and there seems to be no "moderation" to be metamoderating. When I click the MetaMod link now, it sends me to a page full of 1-score posts, each with the poster's username visible. Since I have the default, and signed-in users get +1 score by default ... all the comments it asked me to "metamoderate" _hadn't_been_moderated_!

      And instead of the old ()Fair ()Unfair () Neither, now my options are just "+" or "-". At least the header does make it clear what those mean:

      Below are a number of random user comments in our system. You are asked to decide if these are good or bad. Clicking the + and - indicates that you think that a comment is good or bad. You are welcome to skip any comment that you are unsure about. What is most important is that you are objective and honest- a comment that you mark with the '+' means that you think that other Slashdot readers would benefit from this comment.

      So "+" means "good comment". Note that the directions don't even refer to meta-moderating the moderation anymore ... they just talk about moderating the comment.

      ./mourn meta-moderation system

    5. Re:What about meta-moderation ? by skeeto · · Score: 1

      The instructions say you are moderating the comments, not the moderation. So it is not really meta-moderation anymore, but it is still called such. This is why it is confusing ... and stupid.

  37. But they still don't have a feature by geekoid · · Score: 1

    my search engine had.
    Easy way to eliminate returns you don't like.
    In the glorious days of yore, I created a search Engine. Sadly, I couldn't 'borrow' a large institutions infrastructure to really become a contender, so it faded away.

    One feature I had was the ability to check a box and REMOVE all like results from the return.
    Ah.. I miss 95.

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  38. also by geekoid · · Score: 1

    complaining about the potential for abuse is like complaining your email could get spam. its retarded. if you don't like it then a. keep them minimized and don't read them.

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  39. This is really freaking me out by techess · · Score: 1

    Ok I think this message was meant for me and it is freaking me out.

    orthogonal - I'm sitting right now so my upper body is at right angles to my lower body

    terwilliger - OMFG that's my last name

    accordion - I can play the accordion (albeit badly, but really doesn't everybody?)

    Must find tinfoil hat, must watch out for white helicopters, must avoid ninja's at all cost.

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  40. alternatives to virtual dead drop /SMTP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    these are some alternatives to the whole Google SearchWiki electronic alternatives to private messages & email https://thementalmilitia.com/forums/index.php?topic=16784.msg230527#msg230527 there are more ideas on that thread.

  41. Re:related searches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    'Ann Coulter Jaw Wired Shut,' etc.

    That was just for today.
    If you think that was weird, check out the overall version here rather than just 25 November's results.

    'Tiny Sherman,' 'Tiny Sherman Nude,' and 'Catari.'

    Although you certainly have to respect the persistence in the 'Ann Coulter' queries.

  42. Wondering Aloud- by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So they can target more advertisements by individual user account rather than the catch-all IP/cookie now?

    ie there is a significant increase in users logging in (because you have to log in to have a presentable/familiar interface),
    and once you've done that /. knows which user you* are and your*:

    • interests (which stories you tend to read/section you frequent most),
    • personality (do you generally make trollish, funny, or insightful remarks?),
    • whatever else you had to give when you registered (age/date of birth? Could they parse university statistics from *@*.edu accounts?),

    and can target advertisements accordingly?
    *(Contrasted with which stories & comments your mother/brother/Significant Other reads/makes)

    I'm sure advertisement companies would love the statistical information & ability to further target
    advertisements to make them more specific & effective to the various demographic profiles on /.
    (purchasing only enough ads to match the number of & to only be visible by those accounts who match certain characteristics)

    Wonder how many people as a percentage regularly read /. without logging in & only sign in when a particular insight/revelation they have might be modded up..

  43. Mod Parent Up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just decoded it

  44. So what? by erc · · Score: 1

    Err, so what? People have been using stego and PGP to hide encrypted message in Usenet postings for years now. I don't understand why this is such a big deal...

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