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Talk-Powered Cell Phones Won't Need Batteries

alphadogg writes "It's possible that in the future conversations on your cell phone could generate enough electrical power to run the phone, without batteries. That's one possible outcome of recent work by a team of Texas researchers, who appear to have discovered that by building a certain type of piezoelectric material to a specific thickness (about 21 nanometers, compared to a typical human hair of 100,000 nanometers), you can boost its energy production by 100 percent. And the technology could power not just phones, but a whole range of low-power mobile devices and sensors. The breakthrough is an example of 'energy harvesting' that can convert one kind of energy, such as vibrations or solar rays, into electricity."

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  1. Isn't this fairly common already by Mike-the-Mikado · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's why people are always shouting at them?

    1. Re:Isn't this fairly common already by earlymon · · Score: 5, Funny

      I see you've met my sister. She comes through clear as a bell from 8 states away. Next time, I'll have her turn her phone on...

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    2. Re:Isn't this fairly common already by M1rth · · Score: 5, Funny

      If she's that loud, her vocalizations could probably power other "battery operated" devices she may use...

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    3. Re:Isn't this fairly common already by BluBrick · · Score: 5, Insightful

      On the other hand, "funny" can now be used as the mod you give to "epic fail" posts (e.g. dead wrong or missed the joke). It can raise those posts up above the trolls for all to see, and open the authors to public embarrassment, all the while failing to reward them with karma. It's really not an unfair use of the moderation system. Who said funny has to mean laughing with the author - can't it mean laughing at the author?

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    4. Re:Isn't this fairly common already by Molochi · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The reason funny gets modded insightful is because negative mods hurt karma, but funny doesn't add karma. Funny can draw just as much rebuttal as insightful. So if someone says something witty that holds an issue to the light of reason I'll go for the insightful mod.

      Sometimes I'll mod something I regard as particularly dense as funny rather than a negative mod. But I laugh at stupid stuff in RL too.

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  2. a return to Pyramid Power by infonography · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just set it in a Pyramid and use pyramid power to keep it topped off. That is what they ancient Egyptians did.

    Don't forget to call your Mummy.

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  3. not enough energy to power a modern cell phone by liraz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Most modern phones are probably much too power hungry to be get enough energy from audio vibrations, even you manage to ramp up the efficiency close to 100%, which is unlikely to ever be practical.

    Where this could be useful is in specialized low-power devices that get bundled into emergency survival
    kits.

    OTOH, future cellular devices might incorporate enough improvements into power efficiency (e.g., e-ink displays), such that you could significantly extend battery life and perhaps even power a very basic subset of the phone when the battery runs out.

    Also, harnessing vibrations efficiently might be very useful in surgically implanted medical devices where replacing the battery can be rather inconvenient.

  4. That's just great. by HtR · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wonderful. I can just imagine being in a restaurant or an elevator with a group of people with phones all saying "Low Power - please speak louder."

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  5. Physics might say otherwise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Lets assume that a minimum channel capacity (bits/s) is required to support a conversation, even if we use the absolute best vocoder that eliminates all redundant information. Shannon's Law then says that for a given noise power (set by the environment) there is a minimum signal power which must be transmitted to get error free transmission. Again we are assuming we have an optimal codec, which achieves Shannon's bound. This sets the absolute minimum power consumption of an ideal radio telephone. A real life phone will use more than this. My guess is that this theoretical minimum power is greater than the power which can be harvested from the human voice.

  6. Technology not for some married men by reginaldo · · Score: 5, Funny

    I don't know if this would work for me, because I usually just end up listening on my phone.

    Yes, honey. Ok, honey. Will do, honey.

  7. Re:Why don't they use body heat? by Tuidjy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why would you want one? We have watches working off the constant motion of our body/arm/wrist/whatever. Mine takes a few days before it winds down. I think that anyone that stays immobile for that long will not be doing so great in respect of body heat, either.

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  8. No battery required by Chapter80 · · Score: 5, Funny
    According to my calculations, no battery is required and this article poses an excellent solution, with a few minor modifications and innovations.

    If you assume normal human speech is about 60dB. We know dB = 10 log(I/I0) where I0 is 10^-12 W/m^2. So 60dB works out to about 10^-6 W/m^2 -- that's a microwatt per square meter. With 100% efficiency and a mike of 1 cm^2 collecting area, that's around 10^-10 W -- 0.1 nano-watts. (Thanks phliar for the calculations.)

    Then utilize this energy using recent advances in String Theory, and you have a workable solution.

    Here's a picture of a prototype.