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Saline Agriculture As the Future of Food

Damien1972 writes "To confront rising salinization, authors writing in the journal Science recommend increased spending on saline agriculture, which proposes growing salt-water crops to feed the world. Jelte Rozema and Timothy Flowers believe that salt-loving plants known as halophytes could become important crops, especially in areas where the salt content of the water is about half that of ocean water."

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  1. No spices needed. by tripdizzle · · Score: 3, Funny

    I am sick of salting my popcorn anyway.

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  2. I fully endorse this. by ValuJet · · Score: 5, Funny

    Next step, salt water taffy farms.

  3. Necessary by Valdrax · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'd like to recommend the book "Collapse," by Jared Diamond (the author of "Guns, Germs, and Steel," another book I'd recommend). He spends several pages explaining the damage that salinization has done to farmland in places like Australia. It's kind of an eye opener about how wasteful irrigation policies have ended up basically permanently ruining large ares of Australia's farmlands by drawing salt up into the soil.

    The damage, once done, is ridiculously expensive to fix, so we need to find crops that can grow in the unusable land, especially as the world's population grows -- especially its meat-eating population as third world countries acquire first world living standards, which multiplies the need for vegetable crops.

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  4. Bioremediation by ZirbMonkey · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I love to hear about innovations like this. However it can be taken a step further.

    Not only can we make crops resistant to salty conditions, we can breed them to fix the soil and remove that salt. Bioremediation works on all sorts of poisoned soils, removing all sorts of poisons.

    Hell, we could have pre-salted potato chips!

    1. Re:Bioremediation by ZirbMonkey · · Score: 3, Funny

      You've obviously never eaten Pringles then.

    2. Re:Bioremediation by SwordsmanLuke · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I used to live in Idaho, literally up the street from a potato processing plant. After I found out what kind of potatoes Pringles were made from, it took me three years to be willing to eat them again. :)

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  5. vaporware.. by LingNoi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sounded interesting until..

    While the authors admit that "the use of saline water for irrigation is in its infancy", they see enough promise in saline agriculture that they believe it to be "worth serious consideration and development."

    The only crop they suggest grow is Salicomia bigelovii crops.. Good for making soap but not so great for eating..

    What we really need is more research into GM crops which the environmentalists hate for some reason.

    It's proven to work in the past and has 30 year track record of bringing food into places where it was once not liveable.

    1. Re:vaporware.. by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What we really need is more research into GM crops which the environmentalists hate for some reason.

      I consider myself an environmentalist, but I'm not against GM crops per-se. I'm against the most prominent examples of how they've actually been implemented and the companies responsible.

      Basically, it comes down to this: If DRM is a bad idea for software, it's a fucking insanely retarded thing for food crops.

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  6. Brawndo by TeknoHog · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's got electrolytes!

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  7. The present is the future by Kohath · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The future of food is exactly like the present. There's plenty of food. There's so much that they're converting it into transportation fuel to prop up the price of the food. They're subsidizing food production because farmers can't pay their bills because huge surpluses drag down the market price. Obesity is a growing international problem because there's so much food.

  8. There is no global food production problem by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 4, Insightful
    "We're all going to starve" is just fear mongering. It is hard to say who's behind it, but I'd finger big agri-biz, trying to prevent being forced into more sustainable farming practices.

    We have vast excesses of food in this world. There are now more fat people than starving people.

    Talk to any farmer (as I do, living in a rural area) and the problem they face is not production, but stimulating consumption to help increase demand and prices.
    Feedlots are highly inefficient ways to process food. Take 20 to 50 food units of grain, put them through a feedlot and get one food unit out. A vast % of the food stream is handled this way. Reducing feedlot meat consumption by 20% and the world's food supply will probably double.

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    1. Re:There is no global food production problem by thepotoo · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's just plain wrong. Many crops, especially soy beans and nuts, will provide tons of proteins.

      Pick up any environmental studies textbook and they will confirm that a vegetarian diet is more efficient from an environmental standpoint.

      Having said that, the only nutrient that cannot be obtained from plants is Vitamin B12, you must consume some animal product (even a small amount of something like milk or eggs is enough) to get enough of it.

      Note: I'm not trying to force a vegetarian diet on you, go on and enjoy your steak. But know that it is possible to do without it.

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  9. Great idea! How about resistance to polution too? by Khopesh · · Score: 3, Informative

    This article (at Mongabay, not Science) starts out strong, saying "accessible and unpolluted freshwater is a necessity for every nation's stability and well-being." Unfortunately, that first sentence was the last reference in the article to the issue of pollution or non-salt contamination.

    What we really need is the ability to farm directly in the ocean without producing inedible food. The article's referenced halophytes (plants that can grow in salt water) are just one piece of the issue, as the ocean is also filled with other contaminants (mercury, industrial waste, and so very much more). We can probably do some farming with net-like filters around enclosed areas (similar to the way most fish farming works). Wikipedia calls this "open cage aquaculture." However, these filters can only get so much, and once you get complex enough to need a treatment facility, you've defeated the purpose of farming in the ocean (unless you treat the whole ocean...).

    The referenced Science Magazine article gets published tomorrow, but you can see related documents by searching for the authors (Rozema and Flowers) and salination. Perhaps the actual article will discuss this issue...

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  10. GM Crops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    What we really need is more research into GM crops which the environmentalists hate for some reason.

    I'll try to field this one. I'm a moderate on the issue. I don't think GM crops are themselves a bad idea, but I am studying environmental law, and I have pretty good exposure to what people in the movement worry about.

    You can summarize the problem with GM crops into a few distinct worries:
    1) A love of "natural" foods.
    2) Worries about crop contamination.
    3) What GM technology is *actually* being used for. (Instead of the "feel good" science.)
    4) Safety issues in the creation of GM crops.

    First, a lot of people worry about "frankenfoods." They don't want "unnatural" crops because they're worried about the safety of these crops. As my use of quotation marks suggests, I'm not a big supporter of this viewpoint, but a lot of customer do feel that way which is one reason why organic food certifications don't allow GM crops. I won't defend this view because it's not my own, and I haven't gotten a good solid explanation of it.

    But it brings us to point 2. Pollen from GM crops is a HUGE problem for organic farmers. Planting GM crops freely in an area can destroy the market for organic crops at home as well as for selling to Europe and other parts of the world where GM crops are disdained by customers. You simply cannot protect your crop against contamination in many cases. (Also, besides market concerns, there's the infamous Canadian patents case, Monsanto v. Schmeiser .)

    The third point is one that really cheeses of a lot of environmentalists. You hear a lot of awesome things in the news about how scientists have invented rice with extra vitamin A or tomatoes with longer shelf life. The truth is that there are really only two major types of changes which companies have fought to get onto the market -- crops that come with their own built-in Bt insecticide and crops that let you liberally sprinkle around the herbicide RoundUp. (A notable exception to this would be GM papaya engineered to resist the papaya ringspot virus which saved the Hawaiian conventional papaya industry while wiping out the organic industry there.)

    Personally, I would have no problem with eating crops modified to be more healthy, but both of the above practices do nothing but help prolong the survival of crop monocultures. A lot of farming pest problems exist largely because farmers fight tooth and nail to plant the same plant over and over again, providing excellent feeding grounds for pests and opportunistic species. The use of Bt has taken a surprisingly long time to create resistance pests, but hey, so it begins. Oh, and RoundUp resistance is starting to become increasingly common, meaning that farmers are going to start turning to more toxic chemicals.

    It's like disease resistance and the use of antibiotics in farm animals, another tragedy of the commons situation. People realized that if you give cattle antibiotics, they grow larger, so farmers started pumping cattle full of a variety of antibiotics. One by one, bacteria have become resistant in the animals themselves, through plasmid swapping in the soil and environment, and through exposure throughout the environment thanks to runoff of cattle urine and wastes into streams. So, they keep trying new chemicals as the old ones cease to work (or in the case of tetracycline resistance endanger human health).

    So, as insecticides & pesticides become useless, farmers will turn to increasingly more hostile and dangerous chemicals to farm. ...Which they wouldn't need so much if practiced more sustainable agriculture methodology. But the USDA subsidizes the current monoculture-friendly, heavy petroleum byproducts using methods, so as game theory suggests, no one wants to change.

    Anyway, the la

  11. Re:Just curious... by bockelboy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Zimbabwe, physically, is actually one of the best places to grow corn in Africa. They were once a breadbasket of the region.

    Of course now, the entire economy has completely collapsed, so much of the country is starving.

    That aside, it's a decent place to grow some corn.

  12. extracting salt with barley and/or sugar beets by j1m+5n0w · · Score: 3, Informative

    I found some information on wikipedia about that:

    "Salt-tolerant (moderately halophytic) barley and/or sugar beets are commonly used for the extraction of Sodium chloride (common salt) to reclaim fields that were previously flooded by sea water."

  13. Dont fight it, use it by sirusv · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Locatated in the upper south east of South Australia my father has been very sucussful in converting once barron salt pans in to usable pasture with Puccinellia. This grass originates from the west coast of Turkey and it is claimed that it is the most salt tolerant of all the commercially available grasses. James has always had an environmental eye in how he approached farming. I have heard him say 'don't fight it, use it' on more than one occasion. Field studies into the use of Puccinellia at his property have shown that the results were spectacular. Puccinellia has now become an intergral part of the farm providing highly productive and useful pasture component.

  14. Seasteading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This topic interests me in the context of "seasteading" especially. It would be helpful to have a suitable crop for growing in the ocean rather than on platforms on the ocean. Kelp/seaweed would be suitable, if it could be grown in the shallows near a platform in deep water. From what I understand, there was such an experiment, done by dangling a frame below a floating platform. Unfortunately, the vibrations of the cables damaged the plants.