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Performance Tests Show Early Windows 7 Build Beats Vista

The Other A.N. Other writes "How does the latest build of Windows 7 stack up against Windows Vista? The answer seems to be very well if the benchmarks run by ZDNet are anything to go by. If Microsoft keeps up the good then Windows 7 should be head and shoulders better than Vista. 'What we have here is one set of data points for one particular system, but I think that the results are very promising. The fact that Windows 7 comes out on top in three out of four of these tests at this early stage is very promising indeed. The boot time and PCMark Vantage results are particularly good.'"

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  1. Don't worry, it's not done yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Microsoft still has plenty of time to slow it down.

  2. Congratulations! by jcr · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let's all give MS a pat on the back for clearing such a low bar.

    -jcr

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  3. First Post by EEBaum · · Score: 5, Funny

    First Post! But I posted it with Vista, so it may actually show up a bit later.

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  4. Dead Herring by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Indeed. I think the question isn't how it compares to Vista but how it compares to XP. Anything else is simply following the Microsoft's red herring.

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    1. Re:Dead Herring by g4pengts · · Score: 5, Informative

      This additional test by the same guy shows that it performs better than XP.

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  5. Handbasket brake lever found by Bastard+of+Subhumani · · Score: 5, Funny

    Things are improving. Or at least, the rate at which they're going to hell is decreasing.

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  6. I don't care about benchmarks... by Darundal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...from non-final versions of Windows. The early publicly released betas of Vista performed better for me than the later RCs and the finished product, so I have a hard time getting excited about Windows 7 performing great in an early release.

  7. Defrag the hard drive? by whoever57 · · Score: 5, Funny
    He comments:

    No optimizations were carried out other than to process idle tasks and defrag the hard drive between each test.

    People still defragment hard drives? NTFS isn't resistant to fragmentation?

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  8. Shoot the messenger. by kwabbles · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is all good for Mac OS X adoption I suppose, but frankly, even though I am a Linux user, my professional life would be much better if Microsoft would either extend the availability of XP or get something better than Vista out the door soon.

    I'm running into the same problem. I've got so many customers that are running either specialty or legacy apps that simply will not run on Vista - or they run into stability issues with apps that are supported by Vista. Then, they basically shoot the messenger and make my life a living hell - since I really have no other alternative for them. When I could offer them XP, I could offer them a stable, working solution that they were happy with. Microsoft has stripped me of that option. I really don't see the light at the end of the tunnel with Windows 7, either. To me, it just looks like what the final release of Vista really should have been. Yes, it may be more stable and have better performance - but that doesn't help me when I need to go and install said specialty or legacy apps on it.

    I am basically at a crossroads where I have to take a lot of clients into a completely new system, with completely new applications. And let me tell you - after what Microsoft's done, I'm not about to set them up with another Microsoft solution that railroads them into situations like this again. As long as I'm having to redo entire enterprises, I might as well roll out open source solutions or Macs.

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    1. Re:Shoot the messenger. by vux984 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As long as I'm having to redo entire enterprises, I might as well roll out open source solutions or Macs.

      Right because Apple's so good about offering support for anything legacy? Give me a break.

      OSS at least is a decent option, but honestly, Vista is FAR FAR FAR more compatible with legacy windows than anything else on the market. So unless you plan to rewrite and/or find substitutes for practically everything, Vista is probably the best solution.

      If you are truly in a situation where a switch to OSS actually makes sense, then you don't actually have all these legacy compatibility requirements you mentioned.

      OSS makes sense if you need generic email/web/office or you need a 'terminal' for citrix/web apps/hosted apps/whatever (which does describe a LOT of people) but it rarely really makes sense in a situation where there are a lot of custom Windows apps knocking around, or where you need to use 3rd party apps that are windows only.

      Try and find some contact lens design/lab control software that runs on Macs or Linux and integrates into both your accounting system and controls your lens lathe.

      Try to run a cellular service center, where you need to run all those 3rd party phone-flash/reflash/updater tools, the latest software from blackberry (blackberry desktop) and microsoft (activesync), where support for mac lags behind windows, and support for linux is a joke. While in the back you've got someone running battery diagnostic software from Maccor or Cadex.

      Try to find mac/linux software designed to run an optometrists office. Nevermined the total lack of OSX / Linux patient management systems, you also have to contend with the fact that all the instruments (topographers, perimeters, etc) run windows systems, often with integration features into windows patient management system.

      And lets be honest, the companies that need generic terminals or basic office apps - those really AREN'T the ones having trouble with Vista. Its the manufacturers, the service centers, the doctors, etc, and as much as their is migration pain with Vista -- switching to OSX or Linux would make a masochist cringe in fear.

  9. This just in... by Jimbob+The+Mighty · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Performance tests show that an abacus and a box of crayons beat Vista.

    (Apologies to Tycho and Gabe)

    1. Re:This just in... by Hal_Porter · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Performance tests show that an abacus and a box of crayons beat Vista.

      (Apologies to Tycho and Gabe)

      But does this Abacus OS support industry standards like Win32, NTFS and DirectX 10?

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  10. Re:Windows ME-2 by vux984 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It is sounding more and more like Vista really is the newest generation of Windows ME.

    Only to people who wish that were true. Its not.

    People hated Windows ME. But Microsoft didn't shove it down anyone's throat so people danced around WinME without concern.

    WinME was for home consumers not businesses. Businesses never had to deal with ME.

    Honestly it really wouldn't have mattered what Vista was. Unless it was fully compatible with 2k/xp they were going to reject it. And if MS had kept it more compatible, they would not have been able to move forwards on things like security. Vista's not perfect, don't get me wrong, but even if vista was simply XP with the ability to run as administrator finally "turned off", businesses would have thrown the same fit they are throwing.

    So Vista is slower on the same hardware? Big deal, every OS is. Win98 RAN well with 64MB of RAM, and took a couple hundred megabytes of disk. Try doing that with XP.

    So Vista is isn't compatible with a lot of hardware, and buggy drivers abound. That's not new. Think back to XP, again, there was tons of low rent 'consumer oriented' hardware that only had win9x drivers.

    The only reason there wasn't the same massive backlash to XP that there was to Vista is that BUSINESSES weren't *really* affected by XP. XP used the same drivers as 2k, so most of the hardware support businesses needed was already in place and mature. XP was little more than a minor update to 2k.

    And even then, tons of companies vowed they'd never upgrade, and blasted everything from the color scheme, the deeper integration of windows media player, and the licensing issues (including "windows product activation").

    Vista is stable, performs well on hardware its compatible with, is genuinely more secure than previous versions, features a number of real UI improvements. (The new start menu for example), and its desktop compisiting engine is far more modern, catching it up with OSX and Linux (Compiz).

    It has its flaws too.. of course, but overall it is actually a decent step forward. It just has the misfortune of being a painful one for users with a lot of legacy dependencies, while simultaneously breaking new ground on the driver front so its has to suffer while it waits for hardware vendors getting drivers to maturity or for users to toss the old hardware.

    The next version of Windows is just going to be a more refined version of Vista... but its acceptance will be much higher because the hardware driver issues will have matured, and a lot of the 'legacy dependencies' will have aged into obsolescent non-issues.

    Microsoft's strategy is really little more than wait until Vista forces the market to accept the changes, and then launch it all over again with a new name and few tweaks... but because the market will have already mostly accommodated Vista, 7 will be a 'smooth transition'. Its that simple. And its a good strategy, because people are =that= stupid.

  11. The only relevant benchmark... by billybob_jcv · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...is how long it takes for the first security hole to be found...

  12. Parent is actually insightful. by RudeIota · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is honestly insightful, because the more they work on it, the more it will suffer from the heavy weight of feature creep. I hope their claim of 'modular' is still in the plans.

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    1. Re:Parent is actually insightful. by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You just hit on one of the biggest points of why I keep saying that Microsoft is going down. Microsoft never counted on netbooks, just like they never counted on the Internet.

  13. Re:At Least They Didn't Stoop To... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Don't ever dare compare the OS X operating system to windows or even Linux with WINE in terms of gaming ever again

    What nonsense. Name one game that runs well with WINE or Crossover on Linux that doesn't run under WINE or Crossover on OS X. Name one commercial game available for Linux but not OS X. You might be able to find the odd open source Linux game (Frozen Bubble 2 comes to mind) that hasn't been ported to Mac, but they are pretty rare.

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