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Five PC Power Myths Debunked

snydeq writes "Turning off PCs during periods of inactivity can save companies between $25 and $75 per PC per year, according to Energy Star, savings that can add up quickly for large organizations. Yet most organizations remain behind the times on PC power management, in large part due to common misperceptions about PC power, writes InfoWorld's Ted Samson, who outlines five PC power myths debunked in a recent report from Forrester, ranging from the energy savings of screen savers, to the energy draw of powering up, to the difficulties of issuing patches to systems in lower-power states."

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  1. Saving power, but increasing frustrations by JeffSpudrinski · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I agree that you can save power with low-power (standby) modes on your PCs.

    However, as a network admin as a mid-sized company, I also have seen loads of frustrations where PCs (both laptops and desktops) don't come out of power save mode cleanly, requiring a reboot. Wake-on-lan is also a great concept, but also pretty buggy (again...in my limited experience trying to implement it). We also have issues where our client systems are using network applications with license pools (e.g. database applications or CAD packages). When a user leaves one of these applications open, then the PC goes into power save mode...it really freaks out when it comes back out of power save mode since the license server thought the system had released the license, but the client still thinks it has a licens in use. This situation usually results in the need to reboot, which frustrates the users to no end.

    I set all of our PCs here to lock and send only the monitor into low-power mode after 20 minutes or so. Then we don't have the problems with coming out of power save mode and having locked up or frozen applications (especially the aforementioned network applictions), but still save a good bit of power by allowing the monitor to be turned off automatically.

    Anyone have any idea what percentage of power is used by the monitor versus the PC itself? I don't have a clue, but I'd bet it's a pretty good percentage. There's also probably a big difference between CRT monitors and LCD monitors...again, my gut feeling, but I can't cite any numbers.

    Later,
    JS

  2. Re:Sorry I can't turn off my PC by Nursie · · Score: 5, Interesting

    NSLU2 + bus-powered USB drive + debian + torrentflux-b4rt

    Max 10W drain, with one drive it's nearer 5W. Add in ushare and you have a low energy box that has a web interface for torrenting stuff and can stream the results to your xbox. All for $60 (or so) and the price of the drive.

  3. Re:Winter by MrSteve007 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The EPA awarded my company with one of their top awards this year for improvements to our facility, and energy efficiency. Overall we cut energy consumption 50%, but also used our energy more smartly, including a dedicated ducting system from our server room to the building entrances. We calculate that our servers put out between 8,000 & 12,000 Btu an hour. Most of our overnight heat now comes from the servers (which have to be on 24/7 for off site access), and we've reduced our server air conditioning loads by 80% annually. We're now beginning to implement this change into bank designs.

    In almost every application, it's ideal to shut off computers when not in use, but there are some business based situations where it makes sense to better harness waste heat from electronics, instead of fighting it with energy intensive air conditioners.

    http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=sb_success.sb_successstories2008_johnsonbraund

  4. Re:Typo? Pshaw! by systemeng · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Unit errors are generally a sign in technical fields that a report hasn't been well thought out. No engineer proofreading this would have missed such a blatant error which means that an engineer didn't proofread it.

    If an engineer did not proofread it, an engineer did not likely do it. Therefore, the content of the article was likely done by an incompetent hack and charging $279 for the report is a way of hiding the fact that it was written by a hack.

  5. Re:a PC actually wrote this article by MrCrassic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Why can't computers have timers automatically configured to turn themselves on before the user enters the office?

    This is what I did in my last position, and it worked well. I was due to come in at 8:30am, so I turned off the computer when I had to go (or scripted a time for it to turn off if there was a process running), and configured the BIOS alarm to wake the computer up at 7:30am every weekday. Worked every time; the only thing I had to do was log in, but since credentials are cached, all of my background programs were started before I even had to type my user name.

    The only caveat is that I can't do this for Thinkpads for some strange reason.

    Lots of people are intolerant of even rebooting their computer during the day, but don't realize how infuriated they would get when their computer starts acting up because they didn't restart. Unless one works at a software development house, I doubt *most* users need their PCs on 24/7.

    Then again, I think I'm being naive for a repetitive intern.

  6. Re:The units! by evanbd · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If you need a convenient size, that's what the prefixes are for. A MJ is as conveniently sized as a kWhr. Whr is more convenient in some applications for calculating energy used over time, so it's a reasonable thing to use there.

    Miles per gallon is a silly set of units to use. Metric units would be nice, but have little practical benefit for most usage cases (unless we were to switch to selling liters of gas and marking roads in km, but that's unlikely). The problem is that miles per gallon is backward. It should be gallons per mile (or 100 miles something similar for convenient scale). Why? Distance is the independent variable, not the dependent one. You might want to know how many gallons you'll use on a 200 mile trip, but it's unlikely you want to know how far a trip you can go on with the 8 gallons left in your tank. Furthermore, it's not convenient for comparing operating costs either. You drive your car a certain number of miles per month, not a certain number of gallons. If I want to compare three cars that get 20, 30, and 40 mpg, the cost savings between the first two is bigger than between the last two -- despite the same change in the number. Basically, every time you use mpg, you have to do a division -- not the hallmark of a convenient unit.

  7. Re:Winter by SydShamino · · Score: 5, Interesting

    None of that justifies heating with electrical resistive elements. There are two flaws to your argument:

    1. You mix using gas with whole-house heating.

    These shouldn't be mixed. You can have a whole-house gas furnace, or you can have gas units (or a gas fireplace) in critical rooms. Likewise, you can have a whole-house electrical system, or one per room. Or, you could have electronically-controlled baffles for your air distribution, which cost relatively little but allow you to direct airflow to only specific rooms at specific times of day.

    2. You are advocating resistive heating as efficient.

    Resistive heating can be 100% efficient: every watt you purchase becomes a watt of heat in your room (until it leaks out the window).

    But that's not efficient for heating. A heat pump uses the watt of energy you purchased to perform work, moving heat contained in the colder, outdoor air to the warmer, indoor air of your house. The net effect is that each watt you purchase can translate to 3-4 watts of heat in your room. While clearly not accurate syntax, a head-to-head comparison would call such a heat pump 300 to 400 percent efficient, significantly better than the mere 100% your resistive heater generates.

    Then you can use electronic baffle control to direct the heat just to bedrooms at night, and result in an overall system that is quite efficient and doesn't rely on one particular fossil fuel to function.

    disclaimers

    My house heats with natural gas, and we have an electric heat pad on our bed for cold nights. In other words, we do exactly the things I advocate against. That doesn't make them right, it just makes my actions wrong.

    --
    It doesn't hurt to be nice.
  8. Re:a PC actually wrote this article by turbidostato · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "What about the extra 5 minutes that it takes me to open up my email, and all the other programs that I was working on the previous day?"

    I don't know you, but my session just opens up all the apps I work on on their desired states; it all takes just a few seconds and no human intervention:
      *Desktop#1: e-mail, opened on the main entry folder
      *Desktop#2: a browser with my "everyday work" sites (like the systems monitoring console and the systems and operations documentation web) and my "morning" sites (like some news sites, Slashdot included), one per tab.
      *Desktop#5: some terminals conecting to some "key" servers I then to log into everyday
      *Desktop#6: another browers with my "administrative" sites (like the timeing and ticketing web app), again, one per tab

    I tried openning the session to yesterday's state but after few days, I found better to start with a clean known state instead.

    Oh, yes: my desktop manager is KDE, which you can use on all unix-like systems, in case yours doesn't allow this kind of customization and you want to give it a try.