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64-Bit Java For Linux

Posted by kdawson on from the tipping-point dept.

LWATCDR writes "First we got 64-bit Flash; then the beginnings of 64-bit Wine; now Sun is providing a 64-bit Java plugin. For most people there is nothing to hold you back from running 64-bit Linux."

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  1. 64 bit Java? by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 5, Informative

    Linux has had 64 bit java for donkeys years... *rereads summary* - oh, Java browser plugin. A piece of the 90s I was hoping we'd all left behind.

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    1. Re:64 bit Java? by QuantumG · · Score: 5, Funny

      Someone has to be slower to load than the acrobat reader plugin.

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    2. Re:64 bit Java? by Al+Al+Cool+J · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's not really a properly-formed knock knock joke. How about:

      Knock Knock.

      Who's there?

      ...

      ...

      ...

      ...

      Java!

      Java who?

      ...

      ...

      ...

      ...

      Java few minutes? 'Cause this might take a while.

    3. Re:64 bit Java? by doktorjayd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Now it's racks of big ass servers or blades groaning under badly designed layers and layers of Java 'middleware'

      so your premis here is the problem is the language/platform rather than the design at fault?

      If you have insane amounts of CPU and memory to throw at it to cover up the slowness

      either you need to replace the tandy coco you mention later as your primary pc, or you could actually _try_ it before you bag it. ( trying it again after 1997 might also be an idea..)

      Must have missed it.

      that tends to happen when you have HASUB* syndrome. it happens, dont worry about it. you probably havent noticed a lot of stuff.

      .. some rant about java and vista bloat related to java desktop. and then brings solaris and mac into it. pfft.

      yawn.

      No, you notice when a small app starts sucking up all available memory. Java sucks memory so hard GNOME starts looking lean in comparison

      i can malloc my way into something that smells the same in c too.. only in java you're less likely to leak.

      hey actually put players on shelves that take upwards of two minutes to go from tray close to anything useful appearing on the display

      huh? i drop blu-ray disks into my ps3 and its playing within a few seconds. you're smoking crack.

      I've got a cheap crappy basic cell phone. You can almost see individual pixels draw on the darned thing...

      unless you run an application on your cheap crappy phone, you're probably looking at just the cheapness and the crappiness of the phone, not java.

      i think what you really meant in the above post was more along the lines of 'get off my lawn'.

      i know this is slashdot, but occasional fact checking really cant hurt if you're going to go on a raving rant about your hatred of specific technologies.

      *HASUB syndrome: Head And Shoulders Up Bum syndrome

    4. Re:64 bit Java? by julesh · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The only real alternative for Java applets is Flash. Of course, compared to Flash, Java applets have a lot of downfalls. The VM takes a ridiculous amount of time to start up, and it's really intrusive when it sits in your system tray and constantly announces its new updates.

      Down to less than 2 seconds on my system, these days. Each new release seems to take less time than the last. And the update announcements can be disabled, if they annoy you.

      Also, Java applets have a lot of upsides to flash as well:

      * Ability to access network services (not just via XMLHttpRequests), so live streaming data is a possibility
      * Signed applets can access local system resources that Flash cannot
      * Use useful APIs to do stuff that's beyond the capabilities of Flash (e.g. the Java port of OpenGL)
      * Don't have to design your user interface as a series of frames that you move between to show and hide aspects of it (yeuch... I've done one project of Flash UI design, and that was more than enough for a lifetime thanks.)
      * Much, much easier to support internationalisation
      * Acceptable calculation speed for CPU-intensive stuff

      I'm sure there're more. OK, Java applets are a heavyweight solution. But they are the only solution other than ActiveX for many problems.

  2. 64-bit and 32-bit binaries by robo_mojo · · Score: 5, Informative

    For most people there is nothing to hold you back from running 64-bit Linux.

    Lack of 64-bit {Java,Flash,Wine} doesn't hold you back from 64-bit Linux. A decent Linux distro can handle both 64-bit and 32-bit binaries.

  3. For most people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    For most people there is nothing to hold you back from running 64-bit Linux.

    Except the fact that Microsoft Windows is superior in every aspect.

  4. Re:128 bit computing is around the corner by Hal_Porter · · Score: 5, Funny

    64.0 bits should be enough for anyone.

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  5. Pamplona: Running with the bits. by Ostracus · · Score: 5, Funny

    ""First we got 64-bit Flash; then the beginnings of 64-bit Wine; now Sun is providing a 64-bit Java plugin. For most people there is nothing to hold you back from running 64-bit Linux."

    Owning a 32 bit computer might be an issue.

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  6. Re:Developers section red now ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Makes a change, most people around here are joke blind.