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Wireless Power Consortium Pushes For Standard

Slatterz writes "We've already heard about wireless power before, but now we're a step closer to throwing away our power cables and chargers. A consortium of eight companies has launched an initiative to develop a wireless power standard. The drive was announced at the first Wireless Power Consortium conference at the Hong Kong Science Park yesterday. Most consumer electronic devices require a different charger, and the resulting tangle of wires and bulky devices is 'ugly, frustrating and inconvenient to use,' the group said. 'Wireless power charging takes away the need for wires and connectors. You simply drop your mobile phone, game device, electric shaver on the charging station and the battery is recharged,' explained Satoru Nishimura, senior manager at Sanyo."

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  1. Why not just standardize the cables? by PolarBearFire · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wireless power is only practical in short ranges anyway. With standardized cables I wouldn't have drawerfuls of power cables.

    1. Re:Why not just standardize the cables? by Sabz5150 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Wireless power is only practical in short ranges anyway. With standardized cables I wouldn't have drawerfuls of power cables.

      Which is precisely what they're aiming for.

      A standardized cable isn't gonna help you much when your mobile phone takes 5 volts to charge and your shaver or laptop takes 9 to 18. I imagine the technology would mimic proximity cards, you'd have a flat surface (say, a tabletop) and you'd sit your PDA, mobile, laptop, portable game system, etc. on it and depending on the number of windings in the receiving device and a small rectifier circuit, it would automatically receive the proper voltage.

      AC electricity is fun.

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  2. I'd suggest tinfoil underpants... by pushing-robot · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...but that might not be such a good idea.

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  3. Re:But... by De+Lemming · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Wikipedia article talks about efficiencies between 40% and 80% for near field transmission. Indeed, that seems like a serious waste just for the convenience of not having to plug in your device...

    FYI, far field transmissions using microwave can reach an efficiency of 95%, but I don't think you want such a beam in your house :-)

  4. Re:Mid Range Wireless by jfeldredge · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wireless power covering an entire room will have to wait until wireless devices' power requirements go low enough that the radiated energy won't be a hazard to the user. At the power levels currently used by laptops, the power source would have to emit enough energy that you would microwave-cook the user. The device described in this article is probably using short-range magnetic coupling, not radio waves; not a particular threat to health, but putting your laptop on top of the charger would probably scramble the hard drive.

  5. Transformers are efficient by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Isn't this "wireless power" stuff just a terrible waste of energy?

    Transformers (not the Hasbro sort) are basically two adjacent coils, with the difference in the number of windings on each side determining the voltage step-up or step-down.

    Here you have what is basically a transformer, just with the coils moved further away from each other. A 1:1 step ratio in a transformer is pretty efficient.

    You're not wasting electricity spraying electrons in the air like a water sprinkler, there has to be a circuit before potential can be moved from one coil to the other. Electronics can keep idle current to a minimum. Where's the problem?

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    1. Re:Transformers are efficient by Bearhouse · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Many people leave their charging transformers plugged in, even when not charging their appliance.

      Since most of these chargers are cheap, they are not only highly inefficient when charging (how hot does your laptop power supply get?), but also consume power when not doing anything useful.

      Would need to factor these things in to properly judge efficiency of near-field charging, which can get above 80% if I remember correctly...

    2. Re:Transformers are efficient by cdrguru · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Shaver's plug gets bust? Would be nice to replace the plug and not the whole damn thing, etc. This bypasses that entirely.

      Sure. Let's just use this other power adapter from something else. With a little extra force, see, it fits fine. OK, now just to plug it in...

      BLAMMO!!!!

      Wife comes running in and sees the disaster and, being a good American, calls a lawyer.

      This is why power adapters of different voltages, different capacities and different functionalities are designed with unique connectors. The intent is to keep you from causing problems for the company via lawsuits. Lawsuits caused directly by your ability to connect two mismatched devices together. Unless this risk can be eliminated, you are not going to get rid of every device having a different and unique connector.

      Now it might be nice if there was an ISO standard for connectors (like there is for mains power connections) so there would be a few thousand "standard" connectors for every given voltage, regulation mode, current and AC or DC variety. This would solve everyone's problem, wouldn't it? Until you attempt to get everyone behind the idea of the few thousand "standard" connectors. That are all unique and different from today's non-standard connectors.

  6. Re:But... by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Sadly, this looks to be a case of form over functionality. Still, I know I would never buy one of these. Saving myself a foot or two of cabling simply isn't worth an increased energy bill.

    There are other advantages.

    1. It lessens the number of connections needed to the outside, increasing the ability to weatherproof (my waterproof electic toothbrush uses such a system).
    2. If it was standard, I certainly could see paying a premium so that my cell phone/mp3 player/PDA/e-book reader/shaver, all low power devices, could share one charger. (My computers, not so much.)
    3. Depending on the range, I could be paying a premium so I never have to remember to charge my devices. For instance, if it could cover my whole couch, then I could charge whenever I watch TV or play video games. And some devices (wireless video game controllers) live in that region, so that would be great.
    4. Lastly, the efficency is likely to increase. Creating a standard now, before there are practical uses, is one of the few times it's possible to do so without competing companies pushing their pet standard.
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  7. Re:Mid Range Wireless by IorDMUX · · Score: 5, Interesting

    For my Masters Thesis, I designed a wireless powering system for a fully implanted bio-monitoring device for a mouse running around, untethered, in a cage. Now, a mouse is actually quite small, so our implant had to be about the size of a U.S. dime (actually, a bit smaller). The mouse was never more than a few cm away from the cage floor, but could move around, stand up, roll over, etc., so we could not make the powering system very "directed" in nature. As a result, our optimized average power coupling efficiency we near 0.08% (Page 25, specs on Page 95), which was actually pretty good for the application. It did mean that our implant needed to be extremely low-power, however, involving all sorts of power supply optimizations (Chapter 3), MEMS sensors, and the like.)

    The problem with trying to power your wireless devices anywhere in a room is similar, due to the fact that you can move around and change the orientation of your devices. As the ratio of power-receiving-antenna to "cage" is even lower, you are likely looking at even lower power efficiencies. Yes, you can perform all sorts of fractal antenna optimizations and the like, but, if you want to be able to receive power anywhere in the room, then you are limited by the laws of physics: If your powering system covers the whole room, your efficiency is limited by the simple ratio of the area of your receiving antenna in the plane parallel to the floor (or wherever you place your powering system) to the area of the powering antenna itself.

    The recent demos of wireless power by Intel and others have all involved highly directed powering antennae, where moving the receiver even a small amount cuts off the power supply. Directed power does have its uses, however. Imagine medical implants that can be powered in a short time by placing a directed antenna on your skin each morning, or even wearing a battery pack on your belt with a directed antenna to power a device with a built in radio communicator. No (highly infectable) wires penetrate the skin, no surgery is necessary to replace batteries that run low, and, even in the worst cases, you should still be able to remove the battery back for a time to perform certain functions (exercising, bathing) without losing device functionality.

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  8. Standards Requires Standard Technology by DynaSoar · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can't develop a standard if you don't have similar technologies, and wireless power developers so far have been coming up with all kinds of different technologies. Remove the part of TFA that makes no sense in light of this, and you end up with an advertisement for this "consortium" disguised as a press release, faithfully and unquestioningly reproduced by PC Authority. Had PC Authority tried to do real journalism rather than simple reproduction, they'd have found that not only are the major proposed schemes so different that the idea of standardization is ridiculous, but that some of the members of the consortium aren't even developing any of those schemes.

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  9. What could possibly go wrong? by David+Gerard · · Score: 5, Funny

    Intel chief technology officer Justin Rattner demonstrated a Wireless Energy Resonant Link as he spoke at the annual Intel developers forum in San Francisco yesterday.

    Rattner demonstrated this by causing his ears to light up at 60 watts of power a yard from a power transmitter operated by his assistant Igor. Only four journalists were incinerated when the power earthed through them from his fingertips.

    Rattner reassured us that pumping kilowatts of power around the home through magnetic induction power is absolutely harmless. "The human body is not affected by magnetic fields," he said as one journalist with a pacemaker collapsed and another with a knee replacement watched his leg catch fire. "There's no danger whatsoever from it, any more than there is from mobile phones cooking your brain, microwave leakage blinding you, chemical waste unraveling all the DNA in your balls or statistical clusters of kids with cancer wherever high-tension power lines run overhead. Asbestos and thalidomide were horribly slandered in their day too."

    "Of course, Nikola Tesla did it first in 1899," said enthusiast Albert Tedious-Anorak, 54, of Little Boring. "I detailed this at length on Wikipedia, but they refused to believe the value of my revelations on this matter due to a conspiracy of Edison fans amongst the site administrators."

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  10. Re:But... by Skrapion · · Score: 5, Interesting

    On the other hand, MIT has managed to produce wireless power at 75% and even 90% efficiency, either of which would be more efficient than your laptop's power pack.

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  11. Re:But... by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Funny

    FTA: 90% efficiency when three feet apart?

    I've got a cold fusion rector you might be interested in...

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  12. Re:But... by fractoid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So tell me - how far are your mouse, keyboard, and monitors from your desk?

    The perfect use for this, in my mind, would be to have it built into your PC case. PC case sits under your desk, and monitors, mouse, keyboard, speakers are all just free standing. Awesome for LAN parties (assuming separate power transmitters don't interfere with each other), the worst thing about moving a computer (or even having one set up somewhere) is the spaghetti nest of wires tying it together. Of course, I'd probably duct-tape some tinfoil lining into my lucky rocketship underpants...

    As for efficiency, I'd presume that the efficiency they're talking about is just that of the wireless transmission. There'd be a transformer at each side to get the voltages correct so it's still going to be less efficient overall than your power brick. A more apt comparison would be the 90% @ 3 feet compared to the power loss over the wires from the power brick to the device.

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