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Quicken 2007 For Mac Lacks EV Cert Support
adamengst writes "If your bank uses the Extended Validation certificates that require a higher level of identity checking on the certificate authority's part (as at least one Seattle bank does), you may not be able to download transactions using the Mac version of Quicken. Quicken doesn't gracefully ignore extra information in EV certificates as older Web browsers do, but instead throws an error and refuses to download transactions. Intuit says they're working on a fix — but users may have to wait 'a couple of months,' and even then the fix may not be applied to versions before Quicken 2007."
We have *zero* banks that support Online Transactions. *ZERO*.
Oh, and we can't visit porn sites.
Quickbooks Pro 2009? No Mac version to be found yet.
Quicken? No 2008 or 2009 version for the Mac! 2007 is *still* the latest one they offer! WTF?
They've been promising they're going to replace Quicken for Mac with a whole new financial management product, but it's not even scheduled for release until Summer of 2009!
http://quicken.intuit.com/personal-finance/mac-personal-finance.jsp
Personally, I'm looking at switching over to a shareware product called iBank. It can import all your info from Quicken, looks MUCH nicer, and actually has regular updates:
http://www.iggsoftware.com/ibank/
I'm not going to fork over $50 just so some company can sell me a few hundred megabytes to balance my checkbook. That's what GNU Cash is for!!
Quicken-everything is pretty awful (and that's before business tactics). Alas, their competition is all deficient as well -- though that's changing. Hopefully sites like Mint will give them a run for their money, and they'll have to make a decent product again.
The World Wide Web is dying. Soon, we shall have only the Internet.
Wouldn't offering this as an update to '07 break Intuit's business model of requiring full-price purchases to get updates that should be free?
"osake no hou ga, biiru yori ii" to omotteiru.
Mod parent up. When we started our business almost 4 years ago, we bought Quickbooks, because that's what I was used to from another job and because that's what everybody does. And I'm so tired of the bloat, the lack of customization and the unwieldy interface that I'm rolling my own solution in the new year.
It's a good product line, to be sure, but they're stuck in the incremental upgrades cycle a la Madden football, and it's starting to stink.
Linux, you magnificent bastard, I read the fucking manual!
New Flash!!
Mac users have always been second-class computer users. Mac gets fewer games made for them and fewer applications made for them. The applications that do get made for them have decreased functionality, service or support in some way. This is especially true when there is a Windows version of the same. (* insert microsoft conspiracy theory here *) But given the recent surge in Mac netizenship, it is past time for these vendors to start paying more attention to Mac users. But it wouldn't hurt to join some users groups and start circulating petitions... and if those fail to get notice, pool a VERY large amount of money and contribute heavily to open source products with emphasis on the features and functions most needed and most missing in the commercially negligent. I'll bet some $20 donations from individuals could amount to a LOT of money fast -- just make sure that Intuit and other vendors know that you're doing it. They say that voting with your dollars makes a difference, but I think if they see that open source is their competitor, it will get a LOT more attention.
There are certain exclusions to this, of course -- forget about ever begging Microsoft to write a more feature complete version of Office for Mac. It is NEVER going to happen. Instead, skip right by the begging/petitioning stage and advance DIRECTLY to supporting Open Source projects.
When large sums of money are pooled prior to donation, you have the power to help steer a project in ways that smaller, individual donations would not receive.
I use Quicken as nothing more than a glorified check register where I enter everything manually, so none of their sunsetting-features-to-force-upgrades shenanigans ever bit me. Having said that, it still pisses me off what a half-assed product Mac Quicken has always been, and it *really* grinds my gears that Bill Campbell sits on their board *and* Apple's board and *still* the Mac gets short shrift. I don't know how Jobs hasn't broken his foot off in someone's ass about it-- especially since people have their lives in Quicken, and the fact that it's a HUGE pain in the ass to migrate from Quicken for Windows to Quicken for Mac has probably dissuaded more than a few people from switching to Mac. I don't know what's so fucking hard about using cross-platform data file formats and providing 100% feature parity with the Windows version, I really don't.
I wish Apple would roll their own financial iApp as a shot across Intuit's bow, to get them to straighten up and fly right.
~Philly
It's Quicken, arguably the largest personal finance software developer giving paying customers the cold shoulder.
This isn't even a "bug" in as much as they decided they would ignore the issue on the Mac platform in hopes that they could just point at the (*still* unfinished) Mac product and say "there's your patch buddy, $60 please".
On the up side, this is not nearly as wide spread a problem as it might be. Based on my own experience there are a not insignificant number of Macintosh based Quicken users that bought Parallels and an XP license just to run Quicken for windows.
No baloney, I know 5 and I didn't even suggest it to them.
The OS X product sucks that bad.
Platform advocacy is like choosing a favorite severely developmentally disabled child.
One more thing...
Quicken Online... Their free product... It works better than the for $ product on the shelf.
It actually gets QFX files from your bank (even if you're on a mac). The primary reason those Parallels users switched in the first place.
Sure there are a few features missing, but it's a product that caters directly to a growing market segment that all other financial products ignore.
People living paycheck to paycheck. Not because it's free. Because it's features are built around telling you how you are going to make it to the next paycheck.
Platform advocacy is like choosing a favorite severely developmentally disabled child.
Out of all the applications that could be made in a platform independent language such as Java Quicken/Quickbooks would be high on the list. No massive requirement for graphics modest processing of data, displaying of pleasant however mostly simple forms. Its value is in all the exceptions and rules it uses to follow.
Not porting to Java is a stupid move for this app. Besides allowing Mac, Linux, Windows or whatever user ability to access the app and sell more copies and have the same version across them. There is less work on their part having a Mac Unit and a windows unit all trying to to get each part working, probably having to get lessons learned relearned across each platform. Going with Java or some other platform independent way of processing common logic.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
When I moved from Windows to Mac three or four years ago, one big sticking point was losing Quicken (because the Mac version, even to a relative naive person such as myself, was so very obviously sub-par). I ended up going with MoneyDance -- and because it's cross-platform compatible, as I slowly switch from Mac to Linux, I won't be stuck out in the cold again.
And they do respond to bug reports. It isn't free (as in beer or as in open source), but it was less expensive and have gotten numerous upgrades without having to buy a new license.