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Netbooks Popular Enough For a C&D From Psion

Kevin C. Tofel writes "After watching the netbook industry explode from nothing to 14 million sales in year, the time is right for Cease & Desist letters. Psion, a UK computer company that years ago sold a small sub-notebook called a netBook, is starting to protect the term. At least one netbook enthusiast site received a C&D for using the 'netbook' term and others are sure to follow. The site was given three months to stop using the term. Ironically, it isn't the enthusiast sites that coined the popular term. In the spring of 2008, Intel dubbed these devices netbooks to help define a market for their low-powered Intel Atom CPU."

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  1. Jerks. by ScrewMaster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Makes me ashamed that I used one of their handheld models as the configuration tool for an industrial data acquisition system I used to sell. Lawyers are going to get this civilization so wrapped up in red tape that progress is impossible.

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    1. Re:Jerks. by bmo · · Score: 5, Informative

      Hey uh, unlike patent and trademark trolls, apparently Psion are still using the trademark, which they did come up with on their own before anyone else.

      The only jerks here are you and your knee.

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      BMO

    2. Re:Jerks. by Gerald · · Score: 5, Informative

      Not publicly. My experience has been:

      1) Notice (or be notified of) a copyright or trademark offense.

      2) Try to contact the company.

      3) Get a reply from person 1 who:

          a) Doesn't have the power to fix anything.

          and/or

          b) Doesn't care.

      4) Go back and forth with person 1 for a few months.

      5) Deal with person 2..n who:

          a) Took over for person n-1 when they:

              i) Quit.
              ii) Went on vacation or maternity leave.

          b) Is person n-1's supervisor or someone from a completely different department in another time zone (and who can't change anything or doesn't care).

      This goes on for several months until I send an angry certified letter to the president of the company or hand the matter over to my lawyer.

      It's quite possible that Psion are a gaggle of jerks. It's also possible that they've been trying to get this resolved privately with no joy.

    3. Re:Jerks. by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Seems a pretty natural compound of "net" and "notebook" and thus generic.

      "Coca-Cola" seems like a pretty natural compound of "coca" and "cola", but good look getting that one invalidated.

      "Netbook" is clearly an invented word, even if its etymology is obvious. There are millions of trademarks that you and I haven't heard of that are perfectly valid and legitimate, and it sounds like this is one of them.

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      Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
  2. Re:Why on earth does is this stuff still legal? by raburton · · Score: 5, Insightful

    > Honestly, does anyone know? This is just stupid and it completely inhibits progress.

    Patents maybe, but how on earth does a trademark stop progress?

    And for that matter what wrong with trademarks? Sure, in this case they aren't doing a lot with the brand, but they coined the term, registered it properly years ago and used it for products that these new ones are very similar to. The potential for confusion is there, especially if psion might be planning on making further use of their brand.

    This appears to be trademark law working as it's designed to, so while this is an interesting story, it doesn't seem like one we should all be whining about.

  3. It's really Psion's trademark by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you search here for the term "Netbook", 18 entries come up, one of which is a live trademark assigned to Psion. It's interesting that neither Intel nor the various manufacturers and retailers marketing computers under the term "netbook" took the trouble to do this simple web search.

    1. Re:It's really Psion's trademark by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      A: "What's that?"

      B: "A netbook."

      A: "Oh. What's a netbook?"

      B: "This."

      A: "Oh. What's that?"

      (A gets beaten to death with a netbook.)

  4. Its a cheddar thing by thermian · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Cheddar, a class of cheese we all know, is in reality a particular type of cheese, from a particular location (not too far from where I live). Alas they didn't defend their mark, and now Cheddar is a generic term used to describe mostly low quality cheap cheese sold in vast amounts. Barely anyone has eaten 'real' Cheddar.

    They tried to retrieve their mark from this widespread use by other manufacturers, but failed because they left it too long.

    Thats what this is about, they want to retain their mark, its not about 'evil', if it were, then the real Cheddar makers are also evil, since this is a similar case. It may or may not be too late, but if they do nothing, they lose it anyway.

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  5. Re:Hormel and Adobe by LMacG · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How do you know that they haven't already been in contact with Intel or Asus? Perhaps when large corporations get a legal communication, they don't go running to their Wordpress installation, along with Twitter and Facebook, to post about how that other big bad company is being so mean to them.

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  6. Secure from battle stations by mbeckman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Calm down all you flamers. Psion is doing nothing wrong. This is perfectly moral and legal behavior on their part. They invented the term Netbook and are entitled to keep it as a trademark as long as they want. They still use the term in commerce and thus they still hold legal ownership under U.S. and international trademark law. No different from Apple's continued ownership of PowerBook. It's Psion's property and if you're griping about it you're simply being hypocritical, unless you are willing to give up your own intellectual property without a fight. The right thing for all of us to do is to simply switch to another term. Netbook is inaccurate in any case. The salient feature of these devices is not their network connectivity -- every notebook has that. It's their miniature size. These devices are all about the dimensions of the defunct palmtop form factor (sold by IBM, Sony, Acer, etc). Those did _not_ have much in the way of network ability, so a natural and more accurate name for these new devices is netpalmtop.