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Man Invents Alternative To Cooking Gas

An anonymous reader writes "Gazan resident Abed Ar-Rahman has revealed what he is claiming as an alternative to cooking gas that he developed since Israel has prevented deliveries of cooking gas to Gaza. He invented a device using chemical substances available in Gaza, which burn when mixed and brought into contact with oxygen. The first component is a metal filter that controls the interaction between 40% of the oxygen in the surrounding air, the inflammable substance and some other substances."

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  1. Re:Flamebait Summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Flamebait for sure.

    The entire coastline of Gaza is barricaded by Israel, and has been so for a very long time. Not only that, but anything coming into or going out of Gaza, whether by land or sea, is controlled by Israel. (The only exception to this would be things smuggled back and forth via tunnels, etc., between Gaza and Egypt.

  2. Re:Flamebait Summary by Jack9 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Just because you border the sea, doesn't mean FedEx delivers. Be serious.

    It's widely known Palestine is considered slightly more than a 4th world nation.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza (just look for the words "import materials")

    While I suffer some shame at resorting to wikipedia, no other sources are given as much credit, on /., to being impartial and correct. Neither of which, wikipedia, deserves. If you could point out somewhere this is contradicted, I would be very interested.

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  3. He could have used dung as well by bogaboga · · Score: 4, Informative

    While I congratulate him for his invention, he could have used dung from the millions of sheep and camels in the region to make biogas. As a matter of fact these folks are already doing it.

    I hear waste from humans works too. The trouble with it being the stench and the potential for Hepatitis A spread.

  4. Re:Flamebait Summary by Richard_at_work · · Score: 4, Informative
    Israel regularly blockades Gaza ports, so the statement is true...

    (IsraelNN.com) The Israeli Navy Monday morning blocked a Libyan ship trying to challenge Israeli sovereignty over Gaza coastal waters by landing at Gaza with 3,000 tons of food and medicine. The Foreign Ministry confirmed that it stopped the ship around dawn and that no force was necessary. "The Navy warned the ship that it was approaching prohibited waters and it decided to turn back," Foreign Ministry spokesman Yossi Levi said.

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/128625

    In late August, two boats arrived in Gaza despite Israeli threats to stop them. Israeli Foreign Ministry officials said at the time that there had been a last-minute decision to let the boats through to avoid a public relations debacle at sea, and not to play into the hands of people they described as provocateurs. This time, too, Israeli officials had stated that the boat would not be allowed to reach Gaza, and that the Free Gaza trips would not become routine. Yet the boat was allowed to proceed without hindrance once again. "It was decided at the highest levels to allow them to enter," said Yigal Palmor, an Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman, without further explanation.

    http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/10/29/mideast/mideast.php

    Dignity, a small boat carrying activists, was allowed to sail into Gaza on Tuesday, less than a week after the navy stopped a Libyan cargo ship from entering the Palestinian port and after police prevented a group of Israeli Arabs from embarking for the Strip from Jaffa. Palestinian fishermen welcome... Palestinian fishermen welcome a boat carrying members of a previous activist ship, upon its arrival at Gaza port earlier this month. The boat left Cyprus on Monday night, and was organized by the Free Gaza Movement, which has successfully sailed three ships into the Strip in recent months.

    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1228728125788

    If Israel doesn't want you moving goods into Gaza, you are going to find it very difficult to do so...

  5. Yes it has by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    "Palestinian witnesses said Thursday that Israeli aircraft had dropped leaflets on southern Gaza Strip, warning to destroy underground smuggling tunnels that extend out to Egypt. ...

    Israel imposed a blockade on the Gaza Strip in June 2007 after Islamic Hamas movement seized control of the territory. ...

    The tunnels are used to smuggle a long list of products, starting from fuel and cooking gas to mobile phones."

    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-12/25/content_10559193.htm

  6. Re:Wow, such bias by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://www.btselem.org/English/Statistics/Casualties.asp

    Four Palestinians are killed for every dead Israeli. If this isn't systematic genocide and Gaza isn't a ghetto for Arabs then please enlighten me.

  7. Re:i smell bull... by peacefinder · · Score: 2, Informative

    It might be as simple as an acetylene generator and optimized burners, where the transported "fuel" is actually calcium carbide and the cooker would mix it with local water to generate the actual cooking gas. I imagine it would be very difficult to make that work in practice, but some similar clever chemistry could allow an apparently benign (and unblockaded) material to be used for fuel.

    A 40-day supply does sound like a bit much, though.

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  8. Re:WTF ISRAEL? by willy_me · · Score: 2, Informative

    I believe the aluminum is used for rocket fuel. Once upon a time the British learned first hand that Al burns...

  9. Re:Oppression by dvnelson72 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Nazi-like? Are you ignorant or stupid?

    Nazi's used humans for experimentation. Nazis put people in rail cars so full that people suffocated. Nazis had people in camps where they starved them to the point that they looked like walking skeletons. Nazis cooked live humans to commit genocide. Nazis used chemicals to gas people to death. Nazis used human skin for lamp shades. Nazis used human hair for pillows.

    How in the nimble-f*ck do you come up with "Nazi-like tactics"?

    Seriously, you are offensive as a human being. Keeping people who want to blow themselves up out of your territory is not "nazi-like". Should we put out a welcome mat with pre-made bomb belts for AQ in the USA?

    Equating Nazis with Israel (or for that matter the morons who equate them with GWB) is ignorant at best. At worst, it is an equivocation based in hatred of Jews in general.

    And no, I'm not a Jew. I just find this type of statement disgusting.

  10. I Call Bullshit by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 2, Informative

    Israelis stole, or at least one can make a logically sound and reasonable argument that Israelis and other western powers did indeed steal that land.

    Read this post: A Brief Politically Incorrect But Truthful History.

    You have no logical argument stating anyone stole any land from a Palestinian. Unless of course you want to point that accusation at Jordan or Egypt. You don't have any argument. Your statement is pure bullshit.

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  11. Re:obvious answer by johanatan · · Score: 1, Informative

    The land was a barren wasteland/desert before the Jews moved back there in large numbers. No one wanted it until Israel started prospering and now there does not seem to be any shortage of 'refugee Palestinians' crossing over from Jordan and neighboring countries.

  12. Re:i smell bull... by lysergic.acid · · Score: 2, Informative

    what does perpetual motion have to do with it? here in Southern California the monthly gas bill is around $12-30 per month (closer to $30 in the winter when the heater is on) for a 2-bedroom apartment. and according Google 40 NIS is $10.44932 USD. so it's really not all that revolutionary in terms of cost.

    i'm not say that this technology can't be vaporware, but i don't see any "perpetual motion"-type pseudoscience indicated by the article. though, i do think if that he wants to help people he should make the ingredients public. if no one knows how to recreate this technology, then how is anyone supposed to use it or benefit from it?

  13. Re:Oppression by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 2, Informative

    What came first, the occupation or the resistance?

    Interesting phrasing, because it seeks to exploit commmon knowledge that the occupations come first, prima facia. However, that question is leading.

    The true question is did attacks upon Israel from the West Bank and Gaza precede or follow Israeli control? And the unequivocal answer is the attacks preceded Israeli control.

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  14. Re:Flamebait Summary by chrb · · Score: 2, Informative

    Do you think that Americans would vote differently in the same situation? If an American city were controlled by a foreign military force, and during incursions foreign soldiers had killed hundreds of civilians over the years? That entire extended families had been wiped out by shell fire that was just "a mistake"? Do you really think the American public would vote for a moderate leadership under those conditions?

  15. Re:Available in Gaza by brizzadizza · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hmmm... I wonder what you have been indoctrinated into believing and by what forces? Your dichotomy is as much an invention of your "western" indoctrination as the palestinian response to isrealis is their indoctrination. The palestinians are currently being oppressed by, in their eyes, an occupying nation that has consistently been censured by the world community. The hilarity is the internal media of Israel presents a more varied view of Palestinian/Israeli interaction than most of the media outlets of the west.

  16. Re:Available in Gaza by brizzadizza · · Score: 2, Informative

    How reasonable of the Israelis, I hope they get to any number of other potentially dangerous building materials, here is a short list:
    Bricks/Masonry (its what they build military bunkers out of, doncha know)
    Leather (military boots)
    steel (any number of weapons)
    batteries (how elsse will they power their IEDs?)
    water/food (gotta stop them from feeding those damn terrorists.)

    The fundamental problem is Israel is an agressive nation with expansionist tendencies that has been continuously oppressing the palestinians for 50 years now. What non-violence should they be maintaining? The student entifada was non-violent all the way through the seventies, unless you count rock throwing by unarmed palestinian teens against armed israeli soldiers. Why should the palestinians get over the most recent uncontested land grab? Why should they acknowledge a biblical claim to land that has been consistently habitated for 4000 years? Why does a new york jew have greater claim to any land in israel than a palestinian family that can trace its ancestry back to that very home (now bulldozed) for 1500 years?

  17. Re:A Brief Politically Incorrect But Truthful Hist by CAIMLAS · · Score: 4, Informative

    The irony is that most people who are classified as Palestinians have never been to Palestine and neither have their ancestors - ie they're genetically diverse and not at all a "people group".

    The "Palestine" people are mostly just Arabs from Egypt, SA, Jordan, and the other surrounding Arab countries who were slow to revert from nomadic lifestyles - basically, Arab gypsies. They were a nuisance to the Arab states, and Israel provided a seemingly convenient (in that they could use them against the Jews) place to get rid of them.

    The actual "Palestinians" are mostly integrated amongst Israelis; if it wasn't for the media's focus on the Palestinians as a group, they likely wouldn't even be identifiable as anything other than "naturalized secular Arab-Israeli" by this point.

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  18. Re:A Brief Politically Incorrect But Truthful Hist by ja · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Kingdom of Israel was a result of an invasion from Egypt by former slaves who at the time may or may not be considered Jews. At least Moses had his troubles convincing them not to worship golden calfs while he was away picking up the latest news from God ... The Philistines were there when they first arrived.

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  19. Re:obvious answer by junglee_iitk · · Score: 2, Informative

    Your comment modded up to +5 is the proof how even selfproclaimed logical geeks are just hypocrites specializing in maths.

    I hate this argument, and people who give this argument. I hate when people say to me that India was in medieval age before British came, made most of the rails and taught English, which is why they do have some jobs. I hate those who say Monks were ruling Tibet with iron fist before Chinese came and modernised it.

    And hey! Jews didn't move "back". They moved. There was study proving this through genetics, but I am too tired to find a link for it.

    Anyway... carry on the beacon of false morality.

  20. Re:Available in Gaza by Shadow+of+Eternity · · Score: 2, Informative

    "...instead of just running your mouth."

    Other than star trek reruns, mythbusters, and whatever's on the food channel I don't even watch TV.

    Most of my family is in israel, some of my family is what could be called "palestinian" except that they just took an israeli citizenship and consider themselves israeli citizens and lived with the same people they had for centuries, and my mother is a naturalized israeli citizen.

    My opinions come from LIVING there, getting bombed at the west wall, and having to get pulled out of a market by the IDF because a lot of people became very unfriendly very quickly.

    I keep up on the situation by hearing directly from friends and family how many HUNDRED rockets and mortars have been coming across the border. But yeah, you keep thinking that I'm just another dumb american that needs to learn the truth about Israel and how evil the jews are.

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