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Next Generation T9 Keyboard Technology

Iddo Genuth writes "Cliff Kushler, the inventor of the T9 keyboard technology for numeric keypads, has developed a new alphanumeric entry technology for touch-screen laptops and Smartphone devices. This latest technology, named Swype, works with an on-screen QWERTY keyboard similar to ones found on Windows Mobile and the iPhone. The difference from the usual method of typing in the letters is that a finger or stylus is used to slide in the first letter, then without lifting the finger, the user continues writing the entire word. Only once the word is completed can the finger be lifted off. According to the developers, this leads to a much faster way of 'typing,' or as we might call it soon, 'swiping.'"

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  1. An entire generation will be thinking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Swyper no swyping"!

  2. Finally by Anthony_Cargile · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Touchscreen keyboards to me have always been hard to use. On both the plasma-screen smartboards at my friend's A/V workplace and the ones I've seen in modern (i.e. well funded) high schools, the windows on screen keyboard and the keyboard prepackaged with the smartboard software is just terrible, partially due to the heat-sensitive surface being activated wherever my finger's heat first hits it, i.e. NOT where I wanted it to be.

    This looks much more promising, and will hopefully be preventing the smartboard users from running back to a physical keyboard just to type something after using the mouse in front of the actual screen.

    1. Re:Finally by nscheffey · · Score: 2

      Almost no touch screens use heat sensitivity. You are thinking of capacitive touchscreens, which can also be triggered by proximity (i.e. before you physically touch it).

  3. Dvorak? by XanC · · Score: 5, Interesting

    All these virtual keyboards are hard-coded for QWERTY, which makes even less sense for that kind of device than for a modern keyboard!

    Dvorak should be an option, along with alphabetical order.

    Actually for this thing, there's probably a whole new layout that's optimal. (That's an exercise for the reader to invent.)

    1. Re:Dvorak? by zappepcs · · Score: 4, Insightful

      say what? Dvorak keyboards are great if you want to type in what amounts to two different languages, and it's designed to accommodate speed and efficiency for ten fingers, not one finger and two thumbs.

      If you are going to break away from the standard qwerty keyboard, why not try to do something that makes sense for two thumbs and a finger? Understanding that you would have two circular areas for common keys, and best to have them arranged so that you get best efficiency switching between thumbs on alternating letters.

      T9 is meant for touch tone keypads, this swipe is designed for efficiency on soft keyboards. If you want to maximize efficiency for thumbs, start all over again please.

    2. Re:Dvorak? by Anthony_Cargile · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually for this thing, there's probably a whole new layout that's optimal. (That's an exercise for the reader to invent.)

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    3. Re:Dvorak? by cgenman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Having been in mixed Dvorak, Qwerty, and Abcdefg environments, and having been on a quest for the ultimate keyboard for the past 10 years, I'm pretty confident that Qwerty is *good enough* until something truly different comes along.

      Dvorak *can* run a little faster than Qwerty for typing, but not so much that you'd see an appreciably speed increase for nomal use. And as Dvorak has been around for about 80 years now, I don't think anyone is getting in on the wave of the future by using it. Similarly, you'd be surprised how hard it is to use an alphabetized keyboard after years of Qwerty or Dvorak usage. The brain just doesn't change over that easily.

      Unless an alternative layout increased speeds 100% or so, I'd keep things accessible. Just use Qwerty, and move on.

    4. Re:Dvorak? by i.of.the.storm · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This might be the optimal layout: HexInput. Or at least, it's designed to work in a similar manner to what's described.

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    5. Re:Dvorak? by mollymoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Dvorak is designed for efficient touch typing. Virtual keyboards are inherently poor for touch typing (you can't feel which "keys" your fingers are hitting), and most are too small to even attempt it. If you could convince me there is a significant proportion of people who known Dvorak but can't even type one- or two-fingered on a QWERTY I might believe that there is a real need, but I suspect that group of users is vanishingly small.

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    6. Re:Dvorak? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2, Funny

      I wonder why they didn't call it ZVCHWK?

    7. Re:Dvorak? by AmberBlackCat · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Specifically concerning the iPhone, I think it would be better to use a regular telephone keypad instead of a whole QWERTY keyboard. There would be space for bigger keys. I'd have an easier time just pressing each number until I got the letter I wanted, rather than pressing the smaller QWERTY keys only to have the wrong letter typed. Combining T9 with the telephone keypad would make it even better.

  4. Re:bleh by scoot80 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I find it works well, unless I want to type a message in a different language. Then it really goes bad. But, I've got a Nokia, and it works great. once you make it learn a few words by spelling them yourself (usually suburb names) its great. If you wanna use slang, hit the hash key a few times, and it takes it off T9, so you can free type.

    But when typing a normal SMS, T9 predictive input makes it so much easier for me.

  5. WritingPad by blacklint · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've had an iPhone application for quite a while that uses this. It's called WritingPad, and the about screen has a link to http://shapewriter.com/.

  6. What Google thinks of Swype by Animats · · Score: 4, Funny

    Google's ad engine selected "WI Portable Restrooms -- We Offer Portable Restrooms in Every Configuration & Price Range" for this page.

    OK, back to the drawing board on product name.

  7. This was "swype'd" from Dr Zhai, of IBM, research by mTor · · Score: 5, Informative

    Take a look at this demo of ShapeWriter from IBM. It's the same thing as Swype and was invented 5 years ago. Dr Zhai has formed a company around the tech and you can see it here: ShapeWriter.

  8. Re:bleh by mollymoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    First, I never use that T9 stuff, because it never chooses the right word. Guessing the word that you want to type isn't convenient, it's annoying. Also, it doesn't allow for purposefully misspelled words and text slang.

    At least in good recent implementations it does usually choose the right word, because in addition to having generic word frequency data it learns the most common words you personally use. You can also add your own words to the dictionary, so you can use as many purposefully mispelled words and slang terms as you like. You can always drop out of T9 mode for unusual requirements.

    I usually dislike people who don't use T9; they tend to be the idiots who write things like "l8r" (7 key-presses, assuming you can hold the key down to get the 8 and wait between letters) instead of "later" (5 key-presses with T9, entered as fast as you like). A good T9 implementation lets me compose messages with correct spelling and punctuation more rapidly and reliably and with less effort. Messages with correct grammar, spelling and punctuation can be read more reliably and rapidly by the recipients.

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  9. Re:bleh by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 3, Funny

    Ugh. I'll never code another stack after reading this :P

  10. writingpad iphone app by mdaitc · · Score: 2, Informative

    i've been using the writingpad iphone app for months that does just this.
    http://www.shapewriter.com/iphone.html

  11. Dasher? by unifyingtheory · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is this anything like Dasher? The demo can be seen here

  12. Re:bleh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I usually dislike people who don't use T9;

    Holy crap, you are an idiot!

  13. Re:A simple question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    I got to try out Swype last fall at the TC50. It's pretty great technology, as I remember to do a double letter you just needed to loop around the letter.

  14. Suretype by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm surprised nobody has mentioned SureType- the system the BlackBerry Pearl uses. The keyboard is laid out in QWERTY style, but there are two letters per key. This allows for fewer possible words than a T9 per key-press and also allows for faster typing because of the high likelihood of tapping on the same key consecutively or alternating between the same sets of two or three keys. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Blackberrypearl.JPG for a look at the layout.

  15. Shark-like by ozbon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This looks like the Shark typing method created for IBM a few years back.

    I really liked the Shark idea when it first came out, so it's good to see something similar again. (Plus Shark worked on non-QWERTY 'boards as well, you just changed the settings on its initialisation)

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  16. Re:bleh by cp.tar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If I understood the idea correctly, tracing paths between letters gives you a curve, or at least a broken line with points where individual letters should stand. That means that, with practice, you simply draw a curve describing the word you want to enter.

    Having started learning Chinese a few months ago, I'm beginning to wonder if we're re-inventing the wheel here...

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  17. Re:bleh by heteromonomer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I usually dislike people who don't use T9; they tend to be the idiots who write things like "l8r"

    You sir, are certainly a judgmental idiot. I agree with the GP. I have a poor opinion of T9, because it rarely ever gets the right word. I usually write specific messages that don't fit to the canned word guesses it has. Trying to use it often turns out to be more work than it saves, at least for me. And I don't write in leet or in the SMS lingo.

  18. Good. Now extend this to touch keyboard + monitor by Snart+Barfunz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As one of the many poor typists out there, I don't see why we still have to choose between looking at the keyboard and learning to touch type. A touch keyboard, detecting my finger positions, could coordinate with a translucent virtual kbd on screen that also displayed my finger positions. The virtual kbd would be made to appear and disappear with appropriate gestures. Addional feedback would include haptic, sound, & 'hover' keys. And, as the whole thing is virtual, it would reconfigure on the fly to cope with any language, which simplifies life for the PC manufacturer. The touch keyboard would still need some kind of display but it could be pretty basic. Oh dear - I hope I haven't described this in too much detail. I wouldn't want some poor patent troll to starve...

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