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Microsoft Uses WGA To Obtain Record Jail Sentences

theodp writes "According to Microsoft, 'No information is collected during the [Genuine Advantage Program] validation process that can be used to identify or contact a user.' That's little comfort to the software counterfeiters who were just handed jail sentences ranging from 1.5-6.5 years by the Futian People's Court in China, especially since Microsoft contends that much of the estimated $2B in bogus software was detected by its Windows Genuine Advantage program. 'Software piracy negatively impacts local economic growth,' explained Microsoft VP Fengming Liu in a celebratory New Year's Eve press release. But then again, so does transferring $16B of assets and $9B in annual profit to an Irish tax haven, doesn't it?"

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  1. GOOD! by plasmacutter · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Seriously, There is a persisting writeup from a japanese LUG years ago talking about how pirated copies of windows cannibalize the linux userbase and dev base.

    Pirated windows is the bane of linux, and I applaud microsoft for slitting their own throat by pursuing windows counterfeiters.

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    1. Re:GOOD! by Hurricane78 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Sorry, but the writer of that article lost me in the first section.

      Mr Kingsley-Hughes gives five essential points to explain what is so bad about Linux that it can't even succeed for free

      What he means is "Five things that Microsoft does to hinder Linux's success, and that I personally dislike because I've got no fuckin' clue."
      His main point being in the headline "Windows is free" (eg. via torrent). This is nothing Linux has done wrong, is it? Yet he writes it in that way in the whole large section.

      Too many different versions of Linux.

      Again one of those retards who still think in terms of "software product versions", despite calling themselves "experts".
      There are no "versions". There are packagers. Companies, and other groups. A living, breathing, healthy concurrency. Each group with their own philosophy.
      There is not even a "product" "Linux". It's like he would say that there are too many different versions of candy bars, so he rather wants ice cream, despite there only being 3 versions of two products from one single company.
      This is a giant major advantage of Linux. Him not being used to it does not make it wrong. It means he's even too lazy to try to understand this, despite calling himself an "expert".

      I see GNU/Linux as a kind of meta-OS. You create your very own OS out of it. Some people have done this for you to some extend.

      People want certainty that hardware and software will work.

      Well. Linux does this better than any new Windows version. Install Linux, and all supported hardware is there. Install Windows, and then go hunt for drivers. Signed drivers.
      I bet he drags the drivers of those companies into the spotlight, that refuse to create a Linux driver, partially because MS told them to do so, and partially because they have something shady to hide (like their most expensive product and their cheapest product only differing in the driver code).

      As far as most people are concerned, the command line has gone the way of the dinosaur.

      This guy really calls himself anything?? How incompetent can you be?
      The whole point of having a computer, is to be able to automate things.
      This is mostly done trough writing programs. But then you have programs, and the OS, and you want them to work together in a specific way.
      A comforting little automation there... an quick rename of just those files, while replacing a word inside them... let two tools work together for more comfort...
      All this glue in between is filled with shell scripting, or as he calls it "the command line".

      If you can't do that, you're not really using the computer. If there would be a computer license, this would be the major thing you would have to be able to do.
      When you're only being able to eat pre-chewed food, you're dead, every time the pre-chewer has a problem.

      When I came from Windows, this "glue" scripts, and the little automation of repetitive tasks, including the use of DBUS, and even Greasemonkey, were the first thing that made me say "Wow, I love Linux". All this shit that I had to work countless hours on on Windows... and all this comfort that I previously could not even imagine... dissolved into some small shell scripts. Everything was so easy. And most importantly: Everything suddenly was possible.

      The day where shell scripting dies, is the day where the computer dies, is a day where I will long be dead and gone.

      Linux is still too geeky.

      Translation: "I don't like you. I've never learned to know you. I've not worked with you. But, hell, I don't like you!"
      I bet he has not even tried Ubuntu.

      I'm sorry, but with this EPIC FAIL of an article introduction, I will not throw away my time to read this, but use it to save others from going down that dirty pipe with him.

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  2. WGA forum by nstrom · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm betting that a good amount of the information used in this case came from posters on the WGA forum, where people can post if they're having issues with WGA. One of the tools available in that forum is a WGA diagnostic tool which will generate a sanitized text dump of a user's windows validation information. Most cases on that forum are people whose brother, cousin, or sketchy PC shop installed a common warez release of Windows on their systems, but several there are people who bought apparently legitimate software from resellers which failed validation and later turned out to be counterfeit. Microsoft got in touch with these users, identified the resellers, and I'm betting that this news story is the result.

  3. Re:The moral of the story... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We can't all be tax-havens. It is only useful to small countries that can exist on the small transfer fees of enormous corporations from other countries.

  4. Redundant but necessary reply: by GameboyRMH · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Microsoft says pirating software takes money from local economies! (read: pirates are stealin' America's money!!1one)

    Microsoft uses an Irish tax haven to keep billions of their dollars out of reach of the American tax man.

    If you don't see the hypocrisy in that, please read:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy

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  5. Re:Not good! by Starayo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm using an illegitimate copy of XP right now. My genuine copy lies at the bottom of my desk drawer, rendered useless by the asshats that decided to make small hardware changes require reauthorisation, using up my allotted attempts. After getting no help at all from customer service I downloaded and installed a cracked copy in less than the time than it took for customer service to answer my bloody call...

    I am now certain to exterminate WGA from any and all computers I come into contact with.

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  6. Re:The moral of the story... by Score+Whore · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Where is my advantage again?

    You don't think that striving is beneath you. You think that giving up a little pleasure now for a hugely improved life tomorrow is pretty damned smart. You don't think that having to skip a few nights out at the bar is a violation of your human rights. You don't think that some dude shooting his load inside your mother somehow entitles you to a life of luxury and idleness. You aren't so full of false pride that you have to be the center of attention and importance in everything you do. You don't reject every piece of advice because you know that you don't know everything. You aren't a lazy whiner who thinks that even the slightest bit of effort is too much. You don't insist that everyone blindly and baselessly treat you with the respect and deference given to people who've spent decades proving their capability and knowledge.