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Apple Intros 17" Unibody MBP, DRM-Free iTunes

Phil Schiller delivered the keynote at MacWorld, the first after the Steve Jobs era of keynotes. Here is Engadget's live blog. The big news, predicted by many rumor sites, was the introduction of the unibody 17" MacBook Pro. As rumored, the battery is not removable, but it's claimed to provide 8 hours of battery life (7 hours with the discrete graphics): "3x the charges and lifespan of the industry standard." $2,799, 2.66 GHz and 4 GB of RAM, 320GB hard drive, shipping at the end of January. There is a battery exchange program, and there is an option for a matte display. The other big news is that iTunes is going DRM-free: 8M songs today, all 10+M by the end of March. Song pricing will be flexible, as the studios have been demanding; the lowest song price is $0.69. Apple also introduced the beta of a Google Docs-like service, iWork.com.

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  1. Re:17" Macbook by SteeldrivingJon · · Score: 4, Informative

    " simply cannot fathom why Apple keeps making these things without a number pad. "

    Probably because the number pad prevents the QWERTY keyboard from being centered.

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  2. Re:So,no more DRM by k_187 · · Score: 4, Informative

    You can upgrade, but apparently not for free. At least I couldn't yet. Not everything I've bought from there wasn't listed as eligible yet however. So it might not be completely implemented yet.

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  3. Re:So,no more DRM by j-beda · · Score: 5, Informative
    "prices as low as 69c" means 10% at that price, the majority of selling tracks at $2.50

    The press release at http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2009/01/06itunes.html claims "... in April, based on what the music labels charge Apple, songs on iTunes will be available at one of three price points--69 cents, 99 cents and $1.29--with many more songs priced at 69 cents than $1.29."

    This would seem to indicate that the average price should fall, and that there will be no $2.50 tracks.

  4. Re:Battery?! by GoCal92 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Of course they could do a removable battery. The point they made in the keynote was that a removable battery takes up a bunch of space. By making the battery non-removable, they gained 40% more room for a bigger, longer-lasting battery. The design trade off here was removable battery for more battery life. The market will decide whether that was a good trade.

  5. Re:Should have better video then 9600m for a $2700 by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Informative
    "And $1200 to go from 4gb to 8gb?"

    Well, with all Apple computers...it is best to buy them with minimal RAM, and put it in yourself from 3rd party purchase. Apple has pretty much always been a rip off when having them to upgrade the ram.

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  6. upgrading purchased music by j-beda · · Score: 4, Informative

    This article says you can do so for a fee http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1711 but when I tried for my two purchased albums, it did not work crapping out with some "product has changed" error message. It reportedly worked back when they first introduced DRM-free tracks, so maybe it is a temporary problem as things get retooled.

  7. iTunes DRM-free - But Shell Out To "Upgrade" by Petersko · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you want to upgrade your old purchases to DRM-free status, though, you can pay the "upgrade" price.

    I bought three albums on iTunes this past weekend. At least one of them is DRM-laden. Colour me unimpressed, but I'm not really surprised. I don't have rose-coloured glasses on when it comes to Apple. I sometimes use iTunes when it's 3:00 a.m. and I'm hankering for new music. I fire up the Bands Under the Radar podcast and poke around until something catches my fancy. They made it convenient, so I put up with the conversion process to other drm-free formats.

    "It's also easy to upgrade your iTunes library to iTunes Plus. You don't have to buy the song or album again. Just pay the 30 per song upgrade price. (Music video upgrades are 60 and entire albums can be upgraded for 30 percent of the album price.)"

  8. Re:So....what about TV? by Have+Blue · · Score: 3, Informative

    TV and movies have the same DRM as before. You can have the DRM stripped from existing songs for a fee, which will also upgrade them to a higher bit rate.

  9. Re:So....what about TV? by pavon · · Score: 4, Informative

    -What about my current iTunes song library? Will the DRM magically disappear with my next update?

    You still have to pay 30 cents per song (or 30% of album price) to remove the DRM on previously purchased songs.

  10. Re:constantly-powered battery reliability by Altus · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have seen this same problem as well, but its worht noting that the current batch of MacBook Pros apparently require the battery to be in place even if they are plugged into the wall because they cant pull enough power through the wall wart for peak performance and need the battery there for when power demands go up.

    So while you do have a good point its quite possible that, even if the battery were removable, you wouldn't be able to operate without it.

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  11. Re:Darn... no Mac Mini update by chaim79 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Heck, this is why Apple swapped to the magnetic power plug! Why are the rest of the connections less important?

    They swapped to the magnetic power plug to prevent the problem of people tripping over the power cord causing the laptop to fly across the room.

    Apple does offer a close solution if you buy one of their new displays, it comes with a cable that splits to three connections for the laptop: power, display, and USB (goes to a built in USB hub).

    The thing you forgot is that lots of docs were used to extend the number of ports available on the laptop, I remember one I had that contained an additional 5 ports (not including display, keyboard, mouse, and ones already present on the laptop) on the dock, so you could plug it in and get it all. There was even an option on mine to have expanded ram on the doc for the laptop to use.

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  12. Re:Karl Popper would disapprove... by ThePiMan2003 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Good news, it said right in the keynote they will have a battery replacement program. It can be replaced, just not by you.

  13. Re:Battery?! by goombah99 · · Score: 5, Informative

    You should look at the x-ray images they showed. You do indeed lose even more that 30% of your space. And this is pretty obvious too since the fill factor for cyllinders is on that order. They went to flat pack batteries.

    So they not only made the battery last longer but it also is thinner.

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  14. Re:Karl Popper would disapprove... by chaim79 · · Score: 4, Informative

    you can probably take it to a service location to have the battery changed

    That's a good point, if I know that the battery can be replaced, I have no problem with the new system, but I can't buy it if I don't know for sure...

    <sarcasm>No, the battery is welded to the uni-body laptop frame, to replace the battery costs $4k and your left arm.</sarcasm>

    iPods, iPhones, etc. all have enclosed "non-removable" batteries that can be replaced, either through Apple themselves or through third-party replacement kits. The Apple Air laptop has a similarly non-removable battery that can be replaced (only 7 screws between you and the battery, not bad). I really don't think Apple will go to great lengths to make it impossible so it should be similar to iPods and the rest.

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  15. Re:Battery?! by chaim79 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yes you do, you are not thinking of all that is needed to make a battery removable.

    • The battery itself needs a case.
    • There needs to be a reliable connection point between the battery and the laptop (requires more space)
    • The laptop frame needs to add support structures to compensate for the total lack of support coming from the battery area. (kinda like a convertible car)
    • The laptop needs an inside match to the battery case for it to fit in nicely, and to prevent dirt from entering the laptop case.
    • There has to be a latch system to secure the battery case to the laptop case.

    ALL OF THE ABOVE TAKE SPACE!!! Space that is free to be used for a bigger battery if the it is non-removable.

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  16. Re:Karl Popper would disapprove... by samkass · · Score: 3, Informative

    Without trying to be too snarky or anything, it might help to Google for a few seconds before posting FUD.

    Here are all the details for the MacBook Air, and I would expect them to be very similar for the new MacBook (that is, $125 for same-day service with appointment at an Apple Retail Store and 3-4 days + shipping time by mail). The price could conceivably be higher because of the new technology, but even 2x the price isn't that bad if the battery really lasts 5+ years as is claimed.

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  17. 1000 recharges only drops it to 80% by Macka · · Score: 4, Informative

    Most of the news reports are not getting the complete picture. Apple have posted a dedicated battery page that talks about it in more detail. Here's the paragraph that expands on the 1000 charge info:

    The lifespan of a battery is measured in recharges. One recharge is a complete charge and discharge of a batteryâ(TM)s energy. A recharge doesnâ(TM)t necessarily occur every time you plug in your notebook; many partial charges can add up to a single full recharge. The typical battery delivers about 200 to 300 recharges before its capacity declines to approximately 80 percent. At that point the battery still works, but its performance is diminished. Thanks to the breakthroughs of advanced chemistry and Adaptive Charging, the battery in the 17-inch MacBook Pro can go through up to 1000 recharges before it reaches 80 percent of its original capacity -- more than three times the lifespan of typical notebook batteries

    So it's not 1000 recharges and then throw it away!

  18. Re:Battery?! by Americano · · Score: 4, Informative

    Lets say the space available for the battery is 20cm x 10cm x 1.5cm giving a volume of 300 cm sq [...]

    The volume available for the new battery is 18cm x 8 cm x 1.3 cm = 187.2 sq cm

    Math correction... 1cm = 10mm
    Original dimensions: 200mm x 100mm x 15mm = 300,000 cubic mm

    less 2mm in each dimension: 198mm x 98mm x 13mm = 252,252 cubic mm = 47,748 mm^3 lost, a loss of ~16%.

    Still considerable, but not 40%.

  19. Re:Darn... no Mac Mini update by angrytuna · · Score: 3, Informative

    This is a huge issue for me. There were some issues with hardware encoded locking with the 6th generation ipods (the ipod nano with the video screen). Prior iPods could be mounted and the music interchange performed with a variety of different linux software packages. These newer versions could be mounted and read, but writes just plain failed.

    I had just finished purchasing a nano for my sister for christmas as well (I had previously set her up with an ubuntu box). She's having to use a roommate's XP box to do the transfer. This is an area where Apple has done far worse than just drop the ball, in my book. I've been an Apple fan for awhile, but they lost a lot of my goodwill when I discovered this move.

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  20. Re:Darn... no Mac Mini update by pizzach · · Score: 4, Informative

    From the wikipedia aac article some interesting entries:

    • The PlayStation 3 supports encoding and decoding of AAC files.
    • The Xbox 360 supports streaming of AAC through the Zune software, and off supported iPods connected through the USB port
    • The Wii video game console supports AAC files through version 1.1 of the Photo Channel as of December 11, 2007. All AAC profiles and bitrates are supported as long as it is in the.m4a file extension. This update removed MP3 compatibility, but users who have installed this may freely downgrade to the old version if they wish.[10]
    • Microsoft Windows Mobile platforms support AAC either by the native Windows Media Player or by third-party products (TCPMP, CorePlayer)
    • Sony Ericsson phones support various AAC formats in MP4 container. AAC-LC is supported in all phones beginning with K700, phones beginning with W550 have support of HE-AAC. The latest devices such as the P990, K610, W890i and later support HE-AAC v2.
    • Nokia XpressMusic and other new generation Nokia multimedia phones: also support AAC format.
    • BlackBerry: RIM's latest series of Smartphones such as the 8100 ("Pearl") and 8800 support AAC.
    • Creative Zen Portable
    • Microsoft Zune
    • SanDisk Sansa
    • Sony PlayStation Portable (PSP) with firmware 2.0 or greater
    • Sony Walkman
    • SonyEricsson Walkman Phones-W series, e.g. W890i
    • Nintendo DSi To be released in America mid-2009

    Back in April 2007, wired magazine said that only 10% of mp3 players supported AAC. Nowadays if the freaking Nintendo DS and Sony PSP even support AAC, it's probably safe to say at least half of new MP3 players support AAC, if not more. It's starting to be come a industry standard along with mp3. Who woulda thunk it back in 2007.

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  21. Re:Battery?! by dangitman · · Score: 3, Informative

    Removable batteries don't have to be sturdier anywhere other than the connector and one side of the outer casing. The material for any lithium-based battery pack is going to have to be resilient anyway to withstand the heat and pressure the battery will be subjected to in u

    You clearly have no clue. Naked lithium batteries are very easily punctured. So, no, you don't just need sturdiness on "one side" of the battery casing. You need protection all around. It sounds as if you've never actually seen a removable laptop battery. They are well armored - they'd be getting sued for all kinds of accidents if they weren't. And that casing, and the connector, takes up a lot of space. I'm not sure what bizarro world you are living in where sturdy casing and connectors don't take up space.

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  22. Re:Battery?! by Maserati · · Score: 3, Informative

    To back this up, the video clearly shows the volume gained by not making the battery removable. I've taken screenshots of schematics a laptop with a removable and with a built-in battery. They increased battery volume by 40%.

    screenshots here:

    http://gallery.me.com/mllaneza/100021

    Ok, I haven't seen a me.com gallery recently, I'm kinda impressed.

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