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More Brains Needed

Hugh Pickens writes "BBC reports that more people need to donate their brains to medical research if cures for diseases like dementia are to be found and are urging healthy people as well as those with brain disorders to become donors. 'For autism, we only have maybe 15 or 20 brains that have been donated that we can do our research on. That is drastically awful,' said Dr Payam Rezaie of the Neuropathology Research Laboratory at the Open University. 'We would need at least 100 cases to get meaningful data. A lot of research is being hindered by this restriction.' Part of the problem, according to Professor Margaret Esiri at the University of Oxford, may be that people are reluctant to donate their brains because they see the organ as the basis of their identity. 'It used to be other parts of the body that we thought were important,' says Esin. 'But now people realize that their brain is the crucial thing that gives them their mind and their self.' Dr Kieran Breen, of the Parkinson's Disease Society, said over 90% of the brains in their bank at Imperial College London were from patients, with the remaining 10% of 'healthy' brains donated by friends or relatives of patients. 'Some people are under the impression that if they sign up for a donor card that will include donating their brain for research. But it won't,' says Breen. 'Donor cards are about donating organs for transplant, not for medical science.'"

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  1. Over my dead body! by Arancaytar · · Score: 5, Funny

    You can have my brain when you pry it from my cold, dead...

    Oh wait.

    1. Re:Over my dead body! by steelcaress · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Y'know, they never really specified whether the donated brains were from the living or the dead...

      Anyone remember the Live Organ Donor skit from Monty Python?

    2. Re:Over my dead body! by duguk · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Heh :o) In all seriousness, I've actually already filled in the forms to donate my brain to the MRC London Brain Bank for Neurodegenerative Diseases.

      It's not like it's going to be much to use to me. Just hoping they'll still be around, since I'm hoping it'll still be some way off.

    3. Re:Over my dead body! by nohup · · Score: 3, Funny

      'Some people are under the impression that if they sign up for a donor card that will include donating their brain for research. But it won't,' says Breen.

      Does anyone else feel a uncomfortable at just doing what Dr. Breen says?

    4. Re:Over my dead body! by ozmanjusri · · Score: 4, Funny
      Naturally, the sources for those brains are not well publicized.

      I suspect they'd be from inside heads.

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    5. Re:Over my dead body! by w0mprat · · Score: 5, Funny

      Naturally, the sources for those brains are not well publicized.

      I suspect they'd be from inside heads.

      Those are female brains then.

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    6. Re:Over my dead body! by PachmanP · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hrrm brain shortage + someone who's already filled out the paperwork... Is your brain particularly interesting because if it is I can see an accident in your future. Curiously enough your head will be perfectly intact.

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  2. won't someone THINK of the children!? by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 3, Funny

    ie, I bet they have all the adult brains they need. how about some child brains?

    "think of the children"

    come on, kids. some of you are not using yours. can't you help the good cause out?

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  3. I gave at the office by StikyPad · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's not that I don't want to donate my brain, it's just that I've already promised other people that I would have my brain cryogenically frozen so that I can be resurrected at some point in the future, and I'd hate to let those people down.

    1. Re:I gave at the office by Icarus1919 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Promising is not a synonym for threatening.

    2. Re:I gave at the office by Chris+Burke · · Score: 5, Funny

      I've already promised other people that I would have my brain cryogenically frozen so that I can be resurrected at some point in the future

      Ah, you must be a Cobol programmer.

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  4. Grow up by Alarindris · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When you're dead, you're dead. It's not like your brain wont be rotting in the ground anyway.

    Get over the fact that the universe doesn't care about you and help science!

    1. Re:Grow up by philspear · · Score: 3, Funny

      Get over the fact that the universe doesn't care about you and help science!

      When you put it that way... fuck the universe, I'm keeping it!

    2. Re:Grow up by PPH · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's not like your brain wont be rotting in the ground anyway.

      Some people's brains are getting a head start on rotting.

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  5. Donor Cards by Chris+Burke · · Score: 5, Funny

    'Some people are under the impression that if they sign up for a donor card that will include donating their brain for research. But it won't,' says Breen. 'Donor cards are about donating organs for transplant, not for medical science.'"

    Well to be honest, I have always kinda hoped that having my donor card would mean they might transplant my brain...

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  6. Re:Take Mine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm told I have shit for brains, so I'm donating mine to local gardening enthusiasts.

  7. Re:Mmmm, Brains by CaptainPatent · · Score: 5, Funny

    The main problem I have with donating body parts for scientific research is that I don't want silly medical students using bits of me to play pranks on each other!

    Are you kidding?! Biohazardous pranks are hilarious! How can you not donate to that cause?!

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  8. Who Knew??? by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 3, Funny

    Medical Researchers were zombies? ANYONE???

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  9. No way by symes · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'll only donote my brain if it's smashed up with a hammer first - or some L33t h4ck3r5 might steal my secrets and credit card numbers!

    1. Re:No way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's why I'm donating mine to 'Will it Blend?'.

  10. Packing Instructions by jayrtfm · · Score: 3, Funny

    If you are going to donate a brain, there are recommended packing instructions.
    And don't risk using UPS, since Sterling Courier Systems is the pathologist's preferred shipper.

  11. Flawed assumptions by Linux_ho · · Score: 3, Funny

    'It used to be other parts of the body that we thought were important,' says Esin. 'But now people realize that their brain is the crucial thing that gives them their mind and their self.'

    That's not necessarily true. For example, I do a lot of thinking with another part of my anatomy. Ask anyone.

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  12. Healthy as well as with brain disorders? by Locke2005 · · Score: 5, Funny

    What if I'm not quite certain which category I belong in?

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  13. Obvious solution by dkleinsc · · Score: 3, Funny

    Replace the removed brain with an electronic brain. A simple one would suffice. All it would have to do is say "What?" and "Where's the tea?"

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  14. contact your local medical school by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    My mom had completed the paperwork to donate her body to the local medical school before she found out she had a rare degenerative (untreatable and invariably fatal) neuromuscular disorder. in her consultations with the neurology team at the local school, they determined that the leading research team was at another major university, so they just added that school to the paperwork to receive her brain and spinal cord. other than completing the paperwork, signing it and advising her next of kin, the process was seamless. the funeral home guys picked her up after she died and we gave them the paperwork. the university guys took it from there.
    easy. and very satisfying.

  15. Re:Doctors, Researchers, Get Your Brains, Quick! by Anthony_Cargile · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hey, I resemble that remark!

  16. Re:Ethics, line 1... by Chris_Jefferson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well I know lots of members of the medical profession, and I can say this is total rubbish, for 3 reasons: 1) Doctors appreciate organ doners. They know very little about you when you are rushed in, but if they know you are a doner they know something good about you. 2) There has been rumours of doctors getting in trouble for doing just what you say, and no-one wants to risk getting in trouble, so they err on the side of caution. 3) Why the heck would a doctor decide to not do an expensive operation? The hospital gets paid when they do expensive operations. I can honestly say YOU are scaremongering, and in the process possibly risking other people's lives. If you do die, getting the organs as quickly as possible is crucial, so your scaremongering could well kill people, and that makes you a shit. Sorry.

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  17. Wait until they're dead by unlametheweak · · Score: 3, Funny

    ' Part of the problem, according to Professor Margaret Esiri at the University of Oxford, may be that people are reluctant to donate their brains because they see the organ as the basis of their identity.

    I would have thought that they only accepted brain donations from families of people who have already died. Certainly donating your brain while you are still alive would have an effect on your identity. I would hope this practice stops.

  18. Re:Ethics, line 1... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    err..wait.

    Having been in the medical field for a while, from my complete experience, this is nonsense. I can't remember the last hospital I visited in the eastern side of the United States that had only one surgeon avialable on any given day. The truth is these guys do put in some serious hours but there is almost always more than one (...and for obvious reasons). So the story of the nurse or doctor mentioned wanting to relieve this surgeon is bogus.

    If anyone truly believes this, I encourage you to never go to a hospital and deny all medical care. If these people are so ready to lose patients for the option to maybe save another I wouldn't trust them with 90% of a normal doctor visit.

    The truth is, that most of these individuals attend school for a long time to make big bucks and contribute to the medical community. Ask a surgeon if they can recant a time when they lost someone on the table. If they had--They'll remember it, because it's not easy obviously, even if you think they're a drunken loser.

    Again the donor card has nothing to do with contributing to science, although when you truly do die, your organs would go to someone in actual need.

  19. FUD... in the most vile form. by Klootzak · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Even more despicable than trying to create fear, uncertainty and doubt of Open-Source, are people who try to do the same thing against those who would save lives... I hope you sleep well girlintraining.

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  20. Re:To be fair.... by Diamonddavej · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have a PhD and autism, so that makes me autistic but not stupid. Simon Baron-Cohen, a autism researcher, has expressed his worry that "curing" autism could reduce the number people studying maths and other professions that require good systematizing ability, a strength possessed by people with autism. Here is his comment on the BBC website...

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7736196.stm

    I agree that the way to discourage curing autism, at least getting people to consider its wider implications that go beyond autism, is to connect the search into a cure with the search for genes that code for personality traits.

    It is known that people with Autism and Asperger's are far more likely to vote in certain political directions and express a different degree of religiosity, so we are looking at personalty traits - of all people not just autistic people - when we look for a cure. It is scary stuff, the general public does not understand the ethics or its wider implications.

  21. Re:Ethics, line 1... by similar_name · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I think there is a simple solution. If you don't have an organ donor card then you don't get any organs either if you need them.

  22. Re:Take Mine by digitalunity · · Score: 3, Informative

    While I'm sure there are some surprising uses for corpses, I can assure you testing fire suits is not one of them.

    They are tested using sophisticated bipedal structures of gelatin and/or elastopolymers that resemble the human body in rigidity and thermal decomposition properties. Those mannequins have hundreds or thousands of pressure and temperature sensors over them to determine how much protection fabrics can provide and where they are ineffective.

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  23. Re:Take Mine by Sproggit · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm donating all my organs, but with a proviso that they use at least 70% and all to one recipient...
    That way it's less of an organ donation, and more a hostile takeover...